Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Shekelslovakia]

Am I the only one that really thought the clone wars animated series was George's answer to his statement that "Star Wars is about space wizards with laser swords for 12-year-olds".

You can tell that I'm not a fan of The Clone Wars '08 series (never grew up with it) neither Ahsoka Tono in general.

 

[HandsomeDan]

Okay. But the scene made it clear by action and dialog that Greedo was going to kill Han, so I don't get why the line would be needed. Lucas is genius in many ways, but also weirdly autistic in some. I just wish his last changes were something that would have pissed off the Disney Wars fans, like making it clear that all the made up Disney shit is not canon lol. It would be wild if George still makes changes a few years from now. I have no idea what else he'd want to change.

Imagine JJ making changes to the ST lol!
"We added this scene to hint that Snoke is actually a puppet of the Emperor, or whatever"

I wonder when the ST "Special Editions" are coming out? Will they CGI in more minorities?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Am I the only one that really thought the clone wars animated series was George's answer to his statement that "Star Wars is about space wizards with laser swords for 12-year-olds".

You can tell that I'm not a fan of The Clone Wars '08 series (never grew up with it) neither Ahsoka Tono in general.

It is. And fairy tales stand the test of time because they are so simple. He might have given 12 year olds more credit than they're worth with the Prequels, but even Alex Jones can understand what they're about.

 

[Sneeds_Sniggerly]

This video I watched recently made a really good point about Disney Wars and the MCU

Now all Disney can do is hopelessly fill in the blanks between George's movies that never needed to be filled because nobody cares about the sequel era they created. They ruined the OT character's happy endings just to bring the Empire back and ensure their focus group approved OCs got the spotlight. The MCU now is like that TV show that should have ended years ago but keeps going because of how popular it is, even if it sucks.

>Dave still think the prequels are bad and doesn't get Gene was a commie
So much for being based now lol

 

[The Gene Genie]

luv lucas
luv me OT
luv me PT
luv tragic hero arc
luv kino duels
luv me tartakovsky clone wars
'ate filoni
'ate kennedy
'ate sequels
'ate rey
simple as

 

[Sneeds_Sniggerly]

I wonder when the ST "Special Editions" are coming out? Will they CGI in more minorities?

Of course, what else would it be? We got to make up for the White and (((White))) actors taking screen time away from the amazing POC.

 

[Akumaten]

Star Wars is about space wizards with laser swords for 12-year-olds"

I thought it was the Sequels who did that "Space Wizard" crap.. We went from the lightsaber just being a tool of the jedi, hell, able to be built in mass, to this literal magic sword and "having to be passed down" shit. Ironically with Kylo dick saber looks like a western style sword than the eastern one.
Hell, even though during Yoda vs Sidious fight, though they could "jump good", they couldn't fly unlike in the Sequels where Rey and Sidious are hovering".

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I thought it was the Sequels who did that "Space Wizard" crap.. We went from the lightsaber just being a tool of the jedi, hell, able to be built in mass, to this literal magic sword and "having to be passed down" shit. Ironically with Kylo dick saber looks like a western style sword than the eastern one.
Hell, even though during Yoda vs Sidious fight, though they could "jump good", they couldn't fly unlike in the Sequels where Rey and Sidious are hovering".

No, the Sequels did it POORLY. That's the difference.

 

[Safir]

Cold Take: The character assassination of Han Solo was just as bad as Luke's and it baffles me nobody gave a fraction of a damn about it when TFA came out. All because "I clapped when Harrison Ford showed up like muh childhood!!!!".

It wasn't that bad with only TFA on the table. Han's son did the Star Wars equivalent of trooning out, and people (stupidly) expected an appropriately dramatic reason for it that'd also explain the current state of the galaxy. It's only with Ruin Johnson's contribution that the scope of the atrocity became clear.

Another reason there wasn't much of an outcry was that, allegedly, Ford wanted Han to be killed off and got his wish, while Hamill bashed Jake and Ruin as much as he could without inviting a lolsuit.

(Also, Luke has been done dirtier. Han "only" had all his character development rolled back, but even at the start of ANH Luke wouldn't try to murder a child.)

 

[Sneed F91]

Of course, what else would it be? We got to make up for the White and (((White))) actors taking screen time away from the amazing POC.

The main protags still have to be white so they can sell the movies overseas.

We went from the lightsaber just being a tool of the jedi, hell, able to be built in mass, to this literal magic sword and "having to be passed down" shit.

That was so stupid. I didn't know Anakin's child murdering lightsaber that no one cared about for 30 years was a magic wand like in Harry Potter and it calls to Palpatine's children.

It wasn't that bad with only TFA on the table.

I guess none of it was really to most fans at the time. TLJ being bad just made people realize TFA was bad too.

Han's son did the Star Wars equivalent of trooning out,

And that's my problem: Why does Han and Leia's son, their only child, have to turn out to be such a fag? It's cringy fanfic garbage and I'm pretty sure Han's son turning evil was one of the more hated parts of the EU.

Ford wanted Han to be killed off and got his wish

The way they went about it was such shit though. Han's got no backup plan and no clever ideas. He just walks out on a bottomless pit then gets killed by his gay son. No dying in a dignified blaze of glory, just something way more pathetic and dumb. If you're gonna kill off Han fucking Solo, do it right. You might as well not killed him at all. I guess the fans got what they wanted, but I hated it.

and people (stupidly) expected an appropriately dramatic reason for it that'd also explain the current state of the galaxy.

Nostalgia's a hell of a drug.

Luke has been done dirtier.

Luke was "done dirtier" from a certain point of view, but they were all treated like shit. I hated what TLJ did to Luke but that doesn't take away how Han, Leia, Chewie, R2, 3PO, Lando, etc were portrayed.

I guess most people don't care because he still acted like a dumber version of Han from ANH (which was the problem) then died like like a bitch the way they wanted him to. Jake is a completely different person. Does that make his death another piece of mindless fanservice?

Am I the only one that really thought the clone wars animated series was George's answer to his statement that "Star Wars is about space wizards with laser swords for 12-year-olds".

How so? Also I thought we established Star Wars was about Space Samurai Monks with laser swords for 12 year olds.

 

[Travoltron]

These are shitty times. But the schadenfreude of seeing the Reeeeeeeva saber fail miserably brightened my day a little bit.
It proves that nobody like Reeeeva, and that the SJWs don't put their money where their mouth is.
It also proves that Hasbro and Lucasfilm are still totally clueless.

 

[Shekelslovakia]

How so? Also I thought we established Star Wars was about Space Samurai Monks with laser swords for 12 year olds.

I don't know I think it was just something he wanted to prove to tell off the fans that Star Wars should go into a more darker and mature route like that canceled 1313 game that was going to be M rated. I still remember the news from back in 05 when ROTS came out and revealed it was going to have a PG-13 opposed to PG (why Disney wars got PG 13 that oppose to George's movies is beyond me) as with the other movies due to it being the darkest of the saga.

I'm not expecting Star Wars to go full hard R and have blood swearing, sex or nudity. Just make it grittier with more suggestive and mature themes. (I know rogue one try to go that route but we all know the story of behind the scenes).

You might as well try to push the limit of a PG-13 rating as far as you can kind of like how Marvel is doing with the MCU. I want more mature storytelling and not Netflix drama with a sex scene every other scene.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I don't know I think it was just something he wanted to prove to tell off the fans that Star Wars should go into a more darker and mature route like that canceled 1313 game that was going to be M rated. I still remember the news from back in 05 when ROTS came out and revealed it was going to have a PG-13 opposed to PG (why Disney wars got PG 13 that oppose to George's movies is beyond me) as with the other movies due to it being the darkest of the saga.

I'm not expecting Star Wars to go full hard R and have blood swearing, sex or nudity. Just make it grittier with more suggestive and mature themes. (I know rogue one try to go that route but we all know the story of behind the scenes).

You might as well try to push the limit of a PG-13 rating as far as you can kind of like how Marvel is doing with the MCU. I want more mature storytelling and not Netflix drama with a sex scene every other scene.

I give you a rainbow because mature storytelling requires adult writers.

 

[Shekelslovakia]

I give you a rainbow because mature storytelling requires adult writers.

I know right, you either get a bunch of cuck "men", drag fag tranny ams or fat cunts that just want to tear it down from the inside by making legacy characters buffoons to strengthen their self insert Mary Sue's.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Will never get over Toshiro Mifune turning down the role of Obi Wan because his stupid agent advised him not to. He regretted it for the rest of his life.

Lucas totally stole Kurosawa's stuff to make his own version of The Hidden Fortress and the more you examine it the more you find that he lifted. It is interesting to me however, that this happened not once with Kurosawa, but twice. (Magnificent Seven anyone?)

The jedi outfits and robes are totally Japanese based, as is most of Amidala's wardrobe.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Will never get over Toshiro Mifune turning down the role of Obi Wan because his stupid agent advised him not to. He regretted it for the rest of his life.

Lucas totally stole Kurosawa's stuff to make his own version of The Hidden Fortress and the more you examine it the more you find that he lifted. It is interesting to me however, that this happened not once with Kurosawa, but twice. (Magnificent Seven anyone?)

The jedi outfits and robes are totally Japanese based, as is most of Amidala's wardrobe.

I dunno. He would have had to speak in English and a lot of Burgerstanis cannot stand hearing English in an accent. I'm not even sure the fights would have been better given the fragile props.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

I dunno. He would have had to speak in English and a lot of Burgerstanis cannot stand hearing English in an accent. I'm not even sure the fights would have been better given the fragile props.

They could have easily dubbed him, even if he tried learning English. Ken Watanabe would also be a good choice. Even people like Hiroyuki Sanada or Rome Kanda (although they all would have been way too young to do it in 77)

 

[Ghostse]

The jedi outfits and robes are totally Japanese based, as is most of Amidala's wardrobe.

Amidala is imperial chinese.

 

[Manly_Brony]

Cold Take: The character assassination of Han Solo was just as bad as Luke's and it baffles me nobody gave a fraction of a damn about it when TFA came out. All because "I clapped when Harrison Ford showed up like muh childhood!!!!".

Some meme page spoiled his death for me but it didn't bother me that much after watching Episode 7 for the first and LAST time because I was too busy being disappointed in another fucking Death Star run. Lucas already did it three times... I knew Ford wanted out and I was never obsessed with their love story. I dislike romantic subplots in general. They're usually just shoehorned in to lure women into the cinema. I don't even have a favorite good character from the OT because the main cast just complements each other (my favorite evil characters from the films are Tarkin and Jabba). But I started getting pissed about it after a few days passed. Star Wars felt and looked like an amputee. I wonder what came first? Did a reluctant, antagonistic and greedy Ford give them the idea to clip most of the male OT stars or were they planning the bait and switch all along?

They could have easily dubbed him, even if he tried learning English. Ken Watanabe would also be a good choice. Even people like Hiroyuki Sanada or Rome Kanda (although they all would have been way too young to do it in 77)

I've checked the cast of Midway (1976). Jap-American actors James Shigeta, Dale Ishimoto and John Fujioka were already old enough to play Kenobi in the OT. Even Mako or Pat Morita would've been believable.

 

[Bulk Bogan]

I'm pretty sure Han's son turning evil was one of the more hated parts of the EU.

Look, I'm #1 Vonghater, certified, all years running. Here's the thing about the Vong: it was a more or less coherent story that did in fact do the natural next step for a Star Wars war, extragalactic invaders. Did it fuck it up a lot, yes, did it do lots of stupid shit, yes. The best thing it did was finalize the transformation of Han and Leia's kids from inert and annoying McGuffins to actual characters with arcs, especially with Jacen. He gets turned into Jedi Jesus and kills the bad evil space orc with the unmitigated power of the force, or whatever.

And then they make him turn evil because Lucas got the big sad about the concept of Grey Jedi, and so oops he's now Jedi Hitler so they can do ANH again. It's not just one of the more hated parts of the EU, that plot point is the exact moment that they ran out of new ideas and started doing veiled reboots. This is with respect to continuing the movie stories, I know a lot of effort was put into KOTOR stuff too.

I'm sure I'm misremembering things though, I just cannot be assed to go back and read my old collection of Vong etc stuff when I still haven't read all of X-Wing.