Orbiter DarkSydePhil A-Logs General - Infighting and Cringe Galore (Sons of Kojima, et al)

[SkunkFeet]

I can't watch the entirety of most TIHYDPs because even with editing I find solo DSP mind numbing, but Joster's Doom TIHYDPs are among the few exceptions for some reason. Some combination of a good eye for what to cut and what to leave in, good pacing, and DSPs baffling inability to play every single Doom game the way you're supposed to play Doom.

I can't see the hologram in Eternal without hearing Alex Jones yelling about eating ass, 10/10.,

 

[Yung Dalph]

Jesus Christ my man….

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This is some bizarre shit definitely, don't see why people would compare themselves to Phil like that. It's a really low standard and doesn't really make him look much better. Ironically, he is similar to Phil in a lot of aspects, so I guess maybe it's appropriate to compare

 

[Mighty Pigmask]

don't see why people would compare themselves to Phil like that. It's a really low standard and doesn't really make him look much better

True that

I've noticed Phil attracts certain strange people, like those leeching off him being a lolcow (I know contradictory) like they think they'll get second hand fame or growth, apparently now cult shit.

Sorry to necro the comment but I'm a new farmer. I've been following the detractors on YouTube since around the 2017 begging as a viewer without interacting with them on socials or chat. The orbiters do interest me as well, because there are several reasons why people are drawn to make content on good old DSP, and some of them do turn out to be involved in some sagas by ending up pulling shit like Frogga

In one of the categories is a general feeling that an injustice is happening and they need to speak out and call it out. This is, in my opinion, the case with people like Supercrazy. If they're successful enough, this can give them an inflated ego and become a preacher, not much different from DSP.

Secondly, some just want to cringe, make fun of DSP and laugh in a light hearted manner. I can think of Dick Stroking Phil Vlogs, Meerkat, An1337, Shinkofleur. Their intentions are shown in their content, and you can see they don't take it that seriously and have fun, and their audiences do by extension. They can put together fun videos or streams for their channel audience and the viewers enjoy it. I can include Piece of Peace in this despite the common complaint that he gets too angry or profane. DSP's stupidity sometimes induces an organic rage in people. I understand that and I think the viewers do as well for the most part. He also does the community a great service with his dedication on the tips tracker.

There's the people like Steve of the Dead, who want to analyze DSP's stupidity from a different perspective and that adds more entertainment value to the vortex. I'd throw GTG in there as well, and Brittany Gates videos. They're all insightful and seem like genuine people. Shout out to Agent Proper as well, watching his stream is nice to feel like you're hanging out shit talking Phil over a beer, and he's been around to remember the old drama arcs.

So far I've mentioned mostly the people I like since I prefer ignoring the ones I don't enjoy. The ones I dislike are pretty bad in different ways - James the Lesser is just plain bad, Call of Doody, Snort Hogan and your run of the mill "it's a clips channel for click bait and ad revenue" channels are exactly that. They oversaturate the search engine with nonsense conspiracies about Kat leaving, Phil being OneMinuteMan etc are no better than a tabloid. Snort Burnell is reliable and consistent in this aspect. Hate Army Watch used to be as well, but he got taken down.

Then we got Supercrazy, and seeing the things I learned from this thread, he's just the DSP of the "good guys". Dropped the ball on the OIC thing, taking everything too personally, getting his info from the kiwis and just copy pasting it in his bland videos, and generally someone who would appeal to the people who just want to get angry at DSP, and forget to laugh.

We got Frogga, who saw the restream model emerge and transitioned from doing troll edits to streaming. Couldn't get monetized on YouTube, so he went to Twitch, became a partner and is now apparently running a "cult" ironically while extorting the members for gifted subs and banning them if they refuse. It seems to me people are paying him just because he's there every day, despite this being completely up to him. I never really felt like I had fun watching his streams.

So generally, it's easy to get an idea about the different trolls by looking at their content and how they approach their trolling - for some you can see right off the bat they're fishy when they have bland and low effort videos like Supercrazy, or they feel entitled to something just because they're trolling like Frogga. For others, you can tell they put in effort to grow their channels and deliver what their community wants - Kingjad works hard on his stuff despite the fact I can't tell what he's saying most of the time. Secret limited has very polished and well put together videos, meerkat makes songs that people laugh at and give a light hearted perspective on DSP, FantasticMrSam is a good editor and makes great points about DSP's content. They also have a podcast together that had some great episodes with Steve, Shinko and Peace. Shout out to xMortis as well and his Beggars Journey series that's basically an expanded and detailed Down The Rabbit Hole series. He inserts his opinion in funny ways and seems like a genuine and nice guy.

Sorry for the long post but I'm not intending on being super active on this site, just wanted to add my 2 cents seeing how some of the liked trolls are being exposed for some dumb shit.

 

[LolCowCentral]

This guy takes more "step back"s than any detractor I've seen. This is like his 4th in the last 9 months. I'm starting to think he just does these "breaks" just for the attention. For all the people in the comments being like "you're my favorite. Take your time man. You deserve it" and that shit.

It is textbook attention seeking behavior.

Let's hope this time he doesn't come back.

 

[Heinrich Hammler]

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This guy takes more "step back"s than any detractor I've seen. This is like his 4th in the last 9 months. I'm starting to think he just does these "breaks" just for the attention. For all the people in the comments being like "you're my favorite. Take your time man. You deserve it" and that shit.
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It is textbook attention seeking behavior.

Let's hope this time he doesn't come back.

This guy loves to leave and come back.
He must get a rush out of people crying at his departure and cheering his reapperance. Very gross and pathetic.

 

[LolCowCentral]

This guy loves to leave and come back.
He must get a rush out of people crying at his departure and cheering his reapperance. Very gross and pathetic.

That is exactly it. He has made like 2 videos since his last return and the stress is getting to him lol and it's just wearing him down and taking a toll on him to make a couple unhinged rants about some paypiggies. What a pathetic bitch.

 

[Dona Morte]

I can speak on this now because it was a month or so ago, maybe more in DDMs chat maybe?
People were mentioning why do the Farms not "like" Supercringy.
I'll speak for myself since the guys here can do so themselves.
You feel ENTITLED to me. As in like you are someone who performs such great service. Everything from your posts, the videos it all does. Maybe it's because you didn't credit people here? I am sure the regards calling you a "king" don't help. This entitlement feeling is what probably led Fred Fuchs to go down the route he did.
@migno worries on the long posts, you did well man, I agree with your points.
Also Supercringy if you're "stepping back" why is it because of Supercuck? Why not improve your life, or because of work. When Proper goes he just goes, he doesn't make these grandiose announcements. He also chats with people as much as he can. You speaking like you do come off like a movie star or cult leader or something.

 

[Yung Dalph]

That is exactly it. He has made like 2 videos since his last return and the stress is getting to him lol and it's just wearing him down and taking a toll on him to make a couple unhinged rants about some paypiggies. What a pathetic bitch.

Not sure what is so stressful about this. I'm pretty certain it's self inflicted stress. What's so stressful about making low effort vids about a guy who never notices you? I guess the scenario is different in Supr's head, but in reality, that's exactly what it is - he's getting overly worked up over a dumb internet lolcow, he takes shit personally and involves himself in behind the scenes nonsense.

Maybe if he was more light hearted and positive he wouldn't get that pissy. He forgets the fact that he has no horse in the race. Phil getting money or views doesn't hurt Supr at all on any tangible level.

More power to him for taking a step back when he gets too wrapped up in tism, but if you gotta do these community posts every 2-3 videos maybe this isn't a good thing for you or your mental health.

The "lol" in lolcow means you laugh. Just a reminder, supr...

I am sure the regards calling you a "king" don't help. This entitlement feeling is what probably led Fred Fuchs to go down the route he did.

I agree very much with this sentiment. There's an overexaggerated sense of importance when it comes to suprcrzy. I've seen other restreamers and trolls get compliments as well, but it seems to me like he's really got this idea in his head that he's doing "lord's work" as his fans say.

Now, I feel that some of the detractors are well aware that they're not doing life-changing work or something super meaningful for society. You gave a great example with Proper, who I've heard multiple times mention he doesn't do DSP stuff because of work and life occupations, in other words, there's more important shit than DSP. As far as I know it's the same with some of the other restreamers. It's pretty much common sense that Piece of Peace is working in accounting since he's good at it, Meerkat mentioned he got a new job a couple of months ago and since then his uploads have slowed down, and I've seen those two in particular get similar praises, but doesn't seem to get to them and make them arrogant, or give them the idea that they're doing a huge service to society by trolling Phil. If anything, Pop's tracker does the biggest service to the troll community, along with pigpiggo.

While supr seems like he doesn't have much going on IRL, so he let's the lolcow clout get to him and takes the praise too close to heart.

Sorry for the double post but I got ninja'd by the post I quoted

 

[Shirō Ishii]

Reasons why Kiwi's don't like Suprcrzy:

1. He is a super a-log - it's one thing to get mad over DSP, but he gets super invested and acts like Phil is his #1 enemy
2. He is a Mini version of DSP - He tells his fans to only listen to him and nobody else, he holds grudges against people over anyone who dares to criticize him, he deletes negative comments on his videos, he talks about money the same way Phil does and begs his fans to donate/sub to his patreon at the end of his videos, he blames everyone but himself and tried making a conspiracy theory out of the OIC interview with people "stealing it from him", he is dishonest and manipulates information.
3. His videos suck ass - they're all super long for something which can be said in half the time. It is a chore to get through them. He claims to do "research" but a lot of the stuff he says in the videos are wrong or manipulated to prove his point.
4. Gets all of his information from Kiwifarms then tells his fans to not listen to anything kiwifarms says
5. Blocked off information via a paywall on his patreon
6. Unlikable Asshole

He is also homophobic as fuck. Whether or not you like gays, that's up to you, but the first thing this baboon asked me in my DMs with him was "If I was gay" (he also asked OIC that immediately). All of his insults involve the word faggot or acting as if being gay somehow was a terrible thing to be.

There's clearly more but I have no intention of regurgitating what I've written about him in the previous pages. I don't have a problem with people who like to listen to people rant as listening to rants is good, but he is ALWAYS angry, even in DDM's discord. It's not an act or anything, it's just how he is

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

He is also homophobic as fuck. Whether or not you like gays, that's up to you, but the first thing this baboon asked me in my DMs with him was "If I was gay" (he also asked OIC that immediately). All of his insults involve the word faggot or acting as if being gay somehow was a terrible thing to be.

Sounds like a closet queen looking for tops to me tbh

 

[We Are The Witches]

That Odysee backup sounds nice but since it has to comply with the law, the content can be easily taken down as well, or at least make it unavailable to the public.

There's some interesting comments under their Copyright section by some users, it's impressive:

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It has been mentioned a lot of times, but DSP's trolls are some of the most benign ones when it comes to this site. Even the bank leaks were possible because of the extreme negligence of Philip and BoA's security procedures, nothing truly malicious was even done besides from posting the info, as I recall.

Worst time had to be when he was DDoS'd / when someone supposedly screwed with his Internet connection, can't remember what was exactly, and the SWAT. Although someone here said that it wasn't as severe, more like a checkup or something. This last thing was stupid to do in my opinion, but I'm not even going to go there.

When it comes to your daily "trolls" though, instead of worrying about something actually disruptive, he has to worry about someone tipping under "Fhet Khet's yellow thong" name or whatever. That's why I'm impressed that with all of these detractors (which some are mentally ill from what I've heard), he has not gotten a DMCA takedown request since years ago for Youtube.

And it's not like he has not been poking at fate either, you know with all these names he puts himself on his safe-bubble: the enduring, immortal, resilient, etc, and having a recurring joke I still see on other KF boards about him being "unkillable".
Even more, turns out Wings' supposed "super elite trolls" ended up giving him superchats, and now with RTU's fans he has gotten a decent amount out of nowhere, which I find funny for some reason. Specially when they give him like 50$, then they get immediately mad at him and tell him to fuck off but won't or can't chargeback anymore.

It's magical.

 

[Heinrich Hammler]

Tevin had his farewell YouTube stream and look at what narccist shows up in the comments.

Supr R, no one cares about your "unplugging" or your process of finding out what everyone found out. Totally worthless comment.

 

[Shirō Ishii]

Tevin had his farewell YouTube stream and look at what narccist shows up in the comments.

Supr R, no one cares about your "unplugging" or your process of finding out what everyone found out. Totally worthless comment.

Nobody cares what Vin Diesel's retarded cousin thinks. He's as much of an attention whore as OIC

 

[LolCowCentral]

Tevin had his farewell YouTube stream and look at what narccist shows up in the comments.

Supr R, no one cares about your "unplugging" or your process of finding out what everyone found out. Totally worthless comment.

The irony of being "unplugged" while staying tuned in and active is beyond me. Must be a new kind of stepping away

 

[Yung Dalph]

This exchange is a bit old but good nonetheless. Flexing views made off of DSP and subs? Wow, could've just said you got nothing going on IRL...

 

[Keith the Horse Fucker]

While you're at it, add the other image:
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I like his to Catch a Paypig series

 

[Dona Morte]

This exchange is a bit old but good nonetheless. Flexing views made off of DSP and subs? Wow, could've just said you got nothing going on IRL...

Naw.
he should just say I am Fred Fuchs.

 

[Keith the Horse Fucker]

Today, a little bird informed me about a somewhat-prominent detractor...Almighty Frogga.

Apparently, whenever there is a disagreement in his discord or twitch chat, he likes to engage in a little extortion if the involved parties wish to avoid a ban. Again, if this needs to go in another thread, then the jannies can do their thing, but I thought everyone should know. Nobody in detractor circles should have to deal with pigroach-tier shenanigans, even if they don't agree on something.

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I heard Frogga was with OIC in someway

 

[clothes in my closet]

I heard Frogga was with OIC in someway

that sounds fucking retarded, but what did you hear exactly?

when i was new to the vortex, the "to catch a paypig" videos were very informative, so i have to give big ups to a certain degree, but i didn't know the guy was just ripping all of his info from here and then shitting on the place and telling people to never listen to the farms, just like phil. then he put those nothing burger discord leaks, that anyone could see here for free, on his patreon behind a 20 dollar pay wall.

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on a different note, would it be at all possible to see if the jake lasso youtube channel that got taken down is connected with the jake lasso/ukranian vodka/canadian nightmare accounts that are members in phils chat? similiar to how frutti tutti/zoya/snowkarl all had the same channel id

 

[We Are The Witches]

on a different note, would it be at all possible to see if the jake lasso youtube channel that got taken down is connected with the jake lasso/ukranian vodka/canadian nightmare accounts that are members in phils chat? similiar to how frutti tutti/zoya/snowkarl all had the same channel id

I doubt it, but not having the same Id doesn't say much. As you know, you can make another Youtube account in under 2 minutes.

If you care:
The Jake Lasso that got taken down had these two URLs (channel-Id and custom):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBImduP9L5KugFnCj86COSQ
https://www.youtube.com/c/JakeLasso
Archive of what it was (Home and About):
https://archive.ph/LqHBP
https://archive.ph/BJ1re

The "real" Jake Lasso (or one of them, I don't keep track of this guy's potential sock accounts):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj8YF0WnR72lqYbmWyl7z0A

I haven't looked at the others, but there should be no connection with the one that got taken down because for one, he'd have to change the name and avatar which would expose it if someone were to go to the now gone Jake Lasso.