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Syaoran Li said:
What if he wasn't just collaborating with the Nazis to save his sorry ass and make some quick cash?

Soros secretly wanting to bring back Nazism while masquerading as a neoliberal corporate prog is the kind of thing that's both insane as fuck yet also wouldn't be completely out of the realm of possibility and would be an ultimate case of Clown World striking again.
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He wants to bring Nazism back where he and his buddies are in charge, it doesn't matter what kind so long as his friends are in control.
 
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Meat Target said:
They're not nearly as strong as they seem.

Remember, they're Commies. No system incentivizes corruption as much as theirs. They have incompetence and cronyism just like us.
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Lester Jones said:
Currently, China owns 352,140 acres of agricultural land in the US. The Republicans are doing something about this, but it keeps getting shot down in the House.
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As others have pointed out, the Democratic party is the Chinese lobbying party. What is America's equivalent? CIA assets in China? They got rid of them during the Obama years. For all their problems, they are--to use a sales metaphor--hungry to be on top. The US ISN'T. Do people just think that if the CCP goes, China as an entity disappears? Cause they're the one demographic that won't disappear. Even the Cultural Revolution couldn't kill off Chinese culture. American culture? College students today can't even define American culture despite 20th century television existing.
 
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Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
As others have pointed out, the Democratic party is the Chinese lobbying party. What is America's equivalent? CIA assets in China? They got rid of them during the Obama years. For all their problems, they are--to use a sales metaphor--hungry to be on top. The US ISN'T. Do people just think that if the CCP goes, China as an entity disappears? Cause they're the one demographic that won't disappear. Even the Cultural Revolution couldn't kill off Chinese culture. American culture? College students today can't even define American culture despite 20th century television existing.
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Well duh. I mean it worked so well with the soviets.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
And the immediate followup question is, are we interconnected enough to take each other out.

If we flop, China starts starving to death in 1 or 2 seasons -- although this might be why the WEF and China are buying up so much US farmland. If China flops, suddenly all our manufacturing goes away and shit gets significantly more expensive as we can't rent slave labor anymore.
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I think that keeping Ukraine out of Russian control being "integral to the liberal order" is strongly related to keeping China hooked on imports of US food. If there's a hard break between China and the USA, that food supply would be the cushion needed to keep going.
 
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NeoGAF Lurker said:
Nah, they are solid Democrat voters when it counts. Special elections where Democrats spend no money on a candidate because the general election is four months away where the money is better spent there is not an indication of anything.

Both Asians and Latinks vote 65-75 percent Democrat. Asians ackchually used to be 50/50 a few decades ago but we’ve imported shittier Asians since then and Asians are status climbers. In the 80s and 90s, there was some cultural currency in being a Republican and in 2022, there is none. So Asians have been progressively moving towards Democrats. The concept of the baste Asian voter used to actually exist but isn’t going to exist anytime soon.
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In general all it takes for most Hispanic or Asian to vote blue this fall if they were thinking of voting for red team is a CNN or MSNBC figure head going “IF YOU VOTE RED THERE WILL BE WHITE NEONAZI POC KILL SQUADS IN THE STREETS!”

I hold the whole BASTE minority thing with bated breath since I’m just not seeing it here. They still for the most part live up to the stereotypes they are presented as.
 
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Hallucinogenic Penguin said:
In general all it takes for most Hispanic or Asian to vote blue this fall if they were thinking of voting for red team is a CNN or MSNBC figure head going “IF YOU VOTE RED THERE WILL BE WHITE NEONAZI POC KILL SQUADS IN THE STREETS!”

I hold the whole BASTE minority thing with bated breath since I’m just not seeing it here. They still for the most part live up to the stereotypes they are presented as.
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Hispanics are a work in progress. They're drifting Right. Don't expect the shift to happen all at once. It'll take more election cycles.
 
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The Ugly One said:
The Republican Party has no identity beyond "not the Democrats" and "tax cuts." The drooling retards who ran the party from 2000-2018 (nobody's in charge now) legit thought that tax cuts are a magic win button that will vault you to victory every time. They didn't even pause to consider that tax cuts were popular in 1980 because taxes were really high, but when most of the country pays a rate between 0% and 10%, uh, it's just not a top issue on anyone's mind. For the six years they had a trifecta in 2001-2006, they didn't bother significantly reforming the federal government because they didn't think they had to, just pass another tax cut, and we win.

The Republican Party doesn't just need to "change stances." It needs to have some actual agenda, some meaningful vision for the country. The Democrats have a vision. It's crazy and retarded, but they have an agenda. Everyone in the Republican Party and broader conservative movement who says having an agenda is "big government," everyone who hyperventilated about DeSantis reforming public education "because that's statism," needs to be thrown out and told to fuck off forever.
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The Republican Party will have to solve its identity and leadership crisis fast then. Its opposition, through the clearly genius tactic of forsaking national borders and embracing a half-baked plan of seemingly letting anyone into the country in the pursuit of votes grows ever closer to achieving a checkmate in the political equivalent of chess every passing year.
 
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X Prime said:
This is quite possibly the dumbest thing you have ever said on here.

Why are you pretending such a promise would be held to?
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That Promise was made before, with Regan it was really the only "real" fuck up he did unless you are some retard Neo-con grifter or Alt-Right Lolcow.
 
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Honka Honka Burning Love said:
That Promise was made before, with Regan it was really the only "real" fuck up he did unless you are some retard Neo-con grifter or Alt-Right Lolcow.
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Reagan made plenty of fuckups, but that was just the biggest one.

The very idea that the demographics are destiny types would hold to their promise is laughable.

Republicans cannot actually court most kinds of Hispanics. It boils down to one thing: social services. Democrats offer social services. Republicans do not. It is that simple.

Similarly, @NeoGAF Lurker is completely correct as to why Asians will by and large not go Republicans, even if they agree with Republicans on social issues. There is no status to being a Republican. End of.
 
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The only way I'd be for amnesty is four of the items below, but not one of them would ever stick:
-wall must be built
-remove birthright citizenship
-no welfare programs for five years
-english only for everything government. no more 5 languages for every piece of information in government buildings
-a hard cap of immigration for the next 10 years to just 50,000/year
-anyone amnestied cannot vote for 25 years, be it local or federal
-anything more than a misdemeanor, you are gone. Anything. And if you have kids they go with you

The government couldn't even stick to one of those, so no amnesty then, fuck off we're full.
 
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Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
To do that, immigration reform has to take a back seat, which fucks over the nation long-term.
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I see no reason Latinos as a whole will as a majority drift toward the Republican Party, maybe they would after the Democratic Party dominates everything and they have nothing left to gain from supporting them but that's decades down the line. Waiting for a big Hispanic "red wave" is like waiting on a miracle that will never come.

Once again, here is the data I posted earlier:
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The Republican Party would have to become Diet Democrat to even have a chance of courting them in elections and anger the core supporters of the party in the process. The alternative is that party embraces nativist populism and goes extremely hard on anti-immigration which would probably burn any bridges to any major Hispanic vote (Tejanos and Cubans would probably love it but Mexicans wouldn't) . Its either those options or do nothing and gradually fade into irrelevance. Ultimately, the fate of American conservatives political future are in the hands of the ancient leadership of the Republican Party who will surely make a decisive action and definitely not do whatever lets them accumulate more wealth.
 
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