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I'd like to page @Colonel Gaddafi and ask for his opinion on Biden's recent trip to Saudi Arabia. Somebody told me apparently he's shown an extreme lack of etiquette for both Bedouin culture and the traditional royal customs of the Saudis and that's why he's returning home empty handed.
 
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Good news then, neither of those two orgs are actual devil worshippers. The Satanic Temple are atheistic humanists with a Goth aesthetic and a taste for Milton, Blake, Byron, and Shelley, and are largely focused on 1st Amendment civil rights campaigning. They use the devil imagery as a shit test, essentially. Church of Satan are edgyboi Objectivists and stage magicians ("magic" == psychological tricks), also atheistic, and are largely a moribund relic of the 1960s, with membership estimated at under 1000 last I heard. You mostly find them hanging around a few half-dead forums and subreddits, bitching pointlessly about how Everyone Else Is Doing It Wrong.

Temple of Set, Joy of Satan, and Order of Nine Angles are the theistic Satanist orgs (Devil and demons are actual beings and worship it/them) and are legitimately whacko, especially O9A. There are also rando theistic Satanists/demonolaters out there, but they're 99.9% dumb teenagers who grow out of it in a year. Serious, devout demonolaters are vanishingly rare -- I've spotted only two in over 20 years of hanging around the weirder parts of the Internet, and of those, have actually spoken with just one. Was a fun guy, knew his medieval necromancy. Totally out of place on a forum that was otherwise mostly fluff and light college kids and chuunibyo teens. The other one was a hardcore antiquarian book nerd, and was documenting his research project of travelling Europe to access as many Renaissance and Medieval era necromantic grimoires as he could. Fascinating read.
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>Atheistic humanist
>Don't worship Satan
🌈🌈🌈

They're just the honest ones.
 
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♦️ King of Diamonds ♦️ said:
I'd like to page @Colonel Gaddafi and ask for his opinion on Biden's recent trip to Saudi Arabia. Somebody told me apparently he's shown an extreme lack of etiquette for both Bedouin culture and the traditional royal customs of the Saudis and that's why he's returning home empty handed.
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Very likely. The Saudis have a superiority complex in many ways when it comes to culture, they also have very long memories. They are similar to Jews in the sense that they believe that they are the true servants of Allah and the rest of us (Muslim or not) are something like ‘abeed’ (slaves of the Caliphate, often used as an insult to non Arab Muslims, especially blacks). In Libya the dream of a united Muslim world was soon ditched for pure nationalism when the Saudis showed our people their true nature. We are Berber, and even though we are culturally Arabized and Bedouin, we are not blood Arabs, therefore inferior. So you know from the start that going into any negotiations with Saudis requires you to humble yourself to the point of self degradation. If they feel like you’re not kissing ass hard enough they’ll pretty much tell you to piss off (albeit in a polite way as to not cause trouble). They also like to keep tabs on those working in the international sphere, and if you ever say something critical of the royals or their customs they won’t soon forget it. Not only that, they will either covertly or openly (in the case of Libya) plot against you. The fact that Biden was critical in the past pretty much guarantees that his administration won’t get very far with them. I’m just glad he didn’t severely insult someone during one of his episodes of senility.

The fact that the US goes as far as considering them allies in the region, beyond just buying their oil, has always struck me as odd.
 
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Colonel Gaddafi said:
Very likely. The Saudis have a superiority complex in many ways when it comes to culture, they also have very long memories. They are similar to Jews in the sense that they believe that they are the true servants of Allah and the rest of us (Muslim or not) are something like ‘abeed’ (slaves of the Caliphate, often used as an insult to non Arab Muslims, especially blacks). In Libya the dream of a united Muslim world was soon ditched for pure nationalism when the Saudis showed our people their true nature. We are Berber, and even though we are culturally Arabized and Bedouin, we are not blood Arabs, therefore inferior. So you know from the start that going into any negotiations with Saudis requires you to humble yourself to the point of self degradation. If they feel like you’re not kissing ass hard enough they’ll pretty much tell you to piss off (albeit in a polite way as to not cause trouble). They also like to keep tabs on those working in the international sphere, and if you ever say something critical of the royals or their customs they won’t soon forget it. Not only that, they will either covertly or openly (in the case of Libya) plot against you. The fact that Biden was critical in the past pretty much guarantees that his administration won’t get very far with them. I’m just glad he didn’t severely insult someone during one of his episodes of senility.

The fact that the US goes as far as considering them allies in the region, beyond just buying their oil, has always struck me as odd.
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From what I understand he DID, in fact, insult somebody- specifically MBS by pressing him about the assassination of that one journalist not too long ago before requesting a fistbump of all things...

 
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♦️ King of Diamonds ♦️ said:
I'd like to page @Colonel Gaddafi and ask for his opinion on Biden's recent trip to Saudi Arabia. Somebody told me apparently he's shown an extreme lack of etiquette for both Bedouin culture and the traditional royal customs of the Saudis and that's why he's returning home empty handed.
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Unlike what Kiwifarms thinks, sperging about the holocaust in a diplomatic situation and bringing people the guy loves to murder probably isn't going to win you points.

Also saying you support his enemy, literally minutes after telling him you support him.
And also looking like a weakass pussy oil druggie in need of sandnigger oilcum. Which was extremely obviously the point of your visit.

And then there's also the part where it's also now known that someone already told him that they can't even do the thing he's requesting him to do.
So why the fuck did he even go there other than for grandstanding, which meant he was wasting everyone's fucking time.
 
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derpherp2 said:
Unlike what Kiwifarms thinks, sperging about the holocaust in a diplomatic situation and bringing people the guy loves to murder probably isn't going to win you points.

Also saying you support his enemy, literally minutes after telling him you support him.
And also looking like a weakass pussy oil druggie in need of sandnigger oilcum. Which was extremely obviously the point of your visit.

And then there's also the part where it's also now known that someone already told him that they can't even do the thing he's requesting him to do.
So why the fuck did he even go there other than for grandstanding, which meant he was wasting everyone's fucking time.
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It's almost as if this whole thing with the oil shortage/gas prices could have been avoided, or at least better remedied, if there was some sort of giant pipeline that connected the oil reserves in the Alaskan Arctic to the lower 48. I wonder why nobody ever seems to have thought about that before...
 
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♦️ King of Diamonds ♦️ said:
From what I understand he DID, in fact, insult somebody- specifically MBS by pressing him about the assassination of that one journalist not too long ago before requesting a fistbump of all things...

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Big oof. Khashoggi’s assassination is a sore spot and not something you bring up casually, but the fist bump was probably more insulting. Musaafahah (handshaking) is a very important gesture between people, shaking hands and saying salaam is considered both morally good and just good etiquette overall. It’s like saying‘I’m putting aside any issues I may have with you and approaching you as a friend.’ To refuse to do this (unless you’re of the opposite gender) would be incredibly insulting. Now on the other side of the coin, in the west a fist bump implies a degree of intimacy, something that many will no doubt take issue with.

I’m honestly surprised nobody briefed him on basic manners in a country that is super dependent on them. Incredible failure.
 
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SCSI said:
The other one was a hardcore antiquarian book nerd, and was documenting his research project of travelling Europe to access as many Renaissance and Medieval era necromantic grimoires as he could. Fascinating read.
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Stay the hell away from reading those. Im serious, people have gone literally insane from reading demonic texts. A friend of mine was just doing some basic research with em in his hands and he needed an exorcism to clear it out before it got bad.

The world would not lose anything from them being burned.


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I mean if you were a Christian who believed in the popular conception of Satan and that he was evil you probably wouldnt take the official history of the Church of Satan at face value right?

Also if you were a Christian who believed athiests were lost souls vulnerable to corruption the actual Church of Satan would 100 percent front as "actually athiest" organization and make sense in your world view.
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Im sure there's plenty of edgy role-players, but the real deals are very good at staying offline, underground and secretive. They dont talk about this shit in the open and like to congregate in hideouts.

Everybody is forced to do some messed up shit to keep em silent, and the ridiculousness of it all is a very good cover. If anything leaks out, the rituals are designed in such a way it sounds unbelievable. They intentionally cultivate an image of being weird and plucky in the rare times they take the limelight.

Puerto Rico is a hot spot of that kind of activity, and where many satanists reside. I believe New York and California has a fair mount too.

Ex member John Ramirez has some really good story's of how he got in from a young age. 100% worth a listen.
 
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Thomas Talus said:
AFAICT, Japan is the only non-Western civilization/country to modernize and industrialize on their own terms without being colonized. Perry did force the country open, but once they were open they sent out people to see how Westerners did things and brought those lessons (and often Western experts) back and integrated them into Japanese society, leading to them becoming a legitimate world power within 50 years.
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Pretty much. I think there maybe be something about both cultures being dominated by similar social set ups in the past, basically upside down triangles with a warrior-aristocrat caste and a priestly caste being rough equals and held up by everyone else, but I don't know enough to say for sure. It's very Indo-European.
 
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Colonel Gaddafi said:
Big oof. Khashoggi’s assassination is a sore spot and not something you bring up casually, but the fist bump was probably more insulting. Musaafahah (handshaking) is a very important gesture between people, shaking hands and saying salaam is considered both morally good and just good etiquette overall. It’s like saying‘I’m putting aside any issues I may have with you and approaching you as a friend.’ To refuse to do this (unless you’re of the opposite gender) would be incredibly insulting. Now on the other side of the coin, in the west a fist bump implies a degree of intimacy, something that many will no doubt take issue with.

I’m honestly surprised nobody briefed him on basic manners in a country that is super dependent on them. Incredible failure.
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To be fair it's gotta be hard to brief Biden without standing directly by him at all times. Goldfish mock eachother by saying they have the memory of Joe Biden
 
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Polyboros2 said:
From what I remember, they were already after him for shooting his Grandmother, so it's not a huge leap.
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If it was an op, it was probably planned in advance. They probably didn't count on him murdering his grandma first. He could've even kicked things off ahead of schedule by doing that first which caused even more confusion when he wasn't following the script.
 
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