Better Call Saul

[Norbert the Tiger]

But the only reason Howard showed up was because they were framing him as an addict.

Approximate cause as opposed to but for causation. If I play a prank on a friend and have him go on a cat fish date and some lunatic murders him, it is true that but for my prank, he would not have been murdered. But there is still no foreseeability. A fluke is a fluke.

And the only reason Lalo showed up is because Jimmy took a known murderer and drug cartel boss on as a client.

Jimmy was scooped up by Varga and basically coerced. He tried to tell Lalo that e is busy and cannot continue to work for him. Lalo simply says Jimmy can "make time."

And the reason Jimmy allowed a guest into his house was because Kim concealed Lalo being alive from him so he was not worried about Lalo. They are pieces of shit.

She was told it was a one in a thousand shot, and that Mike had his guys watching them. The rest of your tiresome screed is just more moral fagging, screeching only with the advantage of hindsight. I understand why Kimmy feels bad about it, but it is misplaced. Lalo killed Howard, and if that unlikely circumstance had not happened no one would have been hurt.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

I dunno, the way he talked about him in BCS I wasn't sure, but when I watched Breaking Bad, I definitely came away with the impression that they were lovers.

IIRC, Giancarlo Esposito said that it was never specified in the script nor was he told that Gus was gay, but that in his mind Gus and Max were lovers and he played it that way.

 

[Blacklight]

that was excellent. i loved it. gonna need to get myself a link to a site to watch these easier tho, because i just used youtube. watching the new ep early in 240 p with zoom ins is still worth it but i think it'd be better to get something with a proper aspect ratio at least. anyone lend a hend?

https://primewire.mx/watch-tv/watch-better-call-saul-online-39372.8789010

This is what I use dude.

 

[ApatheticViewer]

Never saw this coming. Bravo Vince

 

[Hallucinogenic Penguin]

Damn, that latest episode. Can’t believe in just a few more weeks the BB universe will be wrapped up. It’s been a fun ride boys.
Even though part of me doesn’t want it to end, it very likely ended on a damn good note. Look at shit like Marvel capeshit, Star Wars, and The Walking Dead for franchises that didn’t get the hint they hit their peak and are rotting into the ground past their expiration date.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

Never saw this coming. Bravo Vince

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best part of the prank was when lalo decided to shoot howard to own them
very based indeed

 

[AnOminous]

Seeing Jimmy in a gaudy mansion was something else, like a really awful cope.

You realize exactly how dead and empty Saul is at this point.

It was already heavily implied that Gus was gay because of His relationship with Max.

They even referred to that in this episode, indirectly. I'm pretty sure that's what Gus was thinking about when he was looking at his reflection in the pool. And you know what Mike was thinking about looking at his own reflection surrounded by flames.

IIRC, Giancarlo Esposito said that it was never specified in the script nor was he told that Gus was gay, but that in his mind Gus and Max were lovers and he played it that way.

I just don't see how it makes any sense to seek years-long revenge in an elaborate chess game to slaughter an entire family name for some guy you just kind of liked.

 

[God of Nothing]

I just don't see how it makes any sense to seek years-long revenge in an elaborate chess game to slaughter an entire family name for some guy you just kind of liked.

Gus raised him up from nothing. If he wasn't a lover, he was at least the equivalent of a son.

 

[AnOminous]

Gus raised him up from nothing. If he wasn't a lover, he was at least the equivalent of a son.

That's the only other real possibility. There was something more to that than just friend and business partner (he's the other hermano).

 

[Raiken]

Approximate cause as opposed to but for causation. If I play a prank on a friend and have him go on a cat fish date and some lunatic murders him, it is true that but for my prank, he would not have been murdered. But there is still no foreseeability. A fluke is a fluke.



Jimmy was scooped up by Varga and basically coerced. He tried to tell Lalo that e is busy and cannot continue to work for him. Lalo simply says Jimmy can "make time."


She was told it was a one in a thousand shot, and that Mike had his guys watching them. The rest of your tiresome screed is just more moral fagging, screeching only with the advantage of hindsight. I understand why Kimmy feels bad about it, but it is misplaced. Lalo killed Howard, and if that unlikely circumstance had not happened no one would have been hurt.

Even if they are not to blame for his death, they ruined his reputaion and everyone Will Remember him as a deluded druggy.
This is exactly like with Chuck; Jimmy won't be responsible for anything to the Point where his plans become more deranged when time goes on.

Remember; in breaking bad he was sugesting he can get badger killed. Not his problem! He Will not have pulled the trigger himself!

 

[Seventh Star]

The pacing was all over the place in the last episode. Again, some of that time would have been better spent early on in the season instead.

 

[TheHarbinger]

Remember; in breaking bad he was sugesting he can get badger killed. Not his problem! He Will not have pulled the trigger himself!

This is how the 'top' characters in BB usually feel about their work. Saul basically manipulates the law to get criminals off of the hook for their crimes knowing that they are guilty. Walter and Jesse manufacture harmful drugs, knowing people will live in misery or die, but they never forced anyone to buy them. Gus never forced anyone into the drug game he just runs it alongside other cartel heads. They have their home lives which are normal and moral. Then they transition to the immoral life but try to compartmentalize it. Jimmy becomes Saul. Walt becomes Heisenberg. Even Gus Fring is a fake name.

You even hear Walt justify his work because he gives addicts a 'clean' product. Like he is doing them a favor. Pure meth with no additives or poisons or bad cooks. And Saul gives a similar speech about giving people the "best representation". Like releasing these deranged criminals back into the wild is a net positive for society.

Still the transition from Jimmy to full time Saul suggestion that Walt murders Badger is too abrupt. He breaks up with Kim and now he is ordering hits for a first week client. This show was always a slow burn. But skipped the most important slow burn of the entire show....Jimmy into Saul. Instead we get a time skip of years because the writers 'forgot'. Reminds me of "Dany kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet".

 

[CWCissey]

Still the transition from Jimmy to full time Saul suggestion that Walt murders Badger is too abrupt. He breaks up with Kim and now he is ordering hits for a first week client.

Wasn't the time skip a couple of years or so? I read that as after Kim left, Jimmy let his work get to him and became hardened and cynical as he was exposed to the absolute dregs of society.

 

[anti SJW]

Wasn't the time skip a couple of years or so? I read that as after Kim left, Jimmy let his work get to him and became hardened and cynical as he was exposed to the absolute dregs of society.

I think the time jump is at least 4 years. I believe this season starts in 2004. Breaking Bad starts in 2008 IIRC. But Saul wasn't introduced until 2nd season. So time jump maybe be later, especially if Walt and Jesse are in the next episode.

 

[Back me up!]

Wasn't the time skip a couple of years or so? I read that as after Kim left, Jimmy let his work get to him and became hardened and cynical as he was exposed to the absolute dregs of society.

I did as well. Kim at least slowed down Jimmy from becoming Saul but with her gone it was full steam ahead with the sleazy. I didn't like that the writers didn't show ANY of that but it is what it is.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

But he already lives like a gypsy millionaire.

Sandpiper money was implied to have been a major payday, and they kind of dance around the fact that he's such a good "criminal lawyer" that he's making a shitload already. Blue meth was just -as far as he knew- an easy payday on top of it.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

Wasn't the time skip a couple of years or so? I read that as after Kim left, Jimmy let his work get to him and became hardened and cynical as he was exposed to the absolute dregs of society.

See attached. Happened before Nov 05, unless he drives with expired tags....

 

[Korpon]

It has to be expired tags, because isn't he wearing the exact same outfit he had when he met with Walt for the first time in BB? Also mentioning the public masturbator which was what he thought Badger's case was about.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

It has to be expired tags, because isn't he wearing the exact same outfit he had when he met with Walt for the first time in BB? Also mentioning the public masturbator which was what he thought Badger's case was about.

I checked because I thought the same thing. It's not, but since the next episode is the Walt and Jesse cameo, it can't be that much earlier.