Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

Life is Hell... said:
So recently a youtuber by the name of Scott Cramer recently made a video where he shares his opinion about the recent Nick shows like Kamp Koral, The Rugrats reboot, and Fairly OddParents: Fairly Odder.

It's obviously meant to be a joke video with some understandable opinions, but like fucking clockwork... these people came for him
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"You don't understand! It's SUPPOSED to be shit! That means it's not shit!"
 
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Kari Kamiya said:
>"Rugrats was always ugly"

Yes, Arin, but there was still charm to the 2D nature of its style that's lost and only amplified the ugliness in CGI.
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You can make the case that a lot of the charm and adult humor was lost in the transition from the pilot to the show as well. It had a surreal Tim Burtonesque Family Dog quality to it and if they had went further back in that direction it could've been amazing.

 
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Kari Kamiya said:
>"Rugrats was always ugly"

Yes, Arin, but there was still charm to the 2D nature of its style that's lost and only amplified the ugliness in CGI. And also, the CGI show literally just does shot-for-shot remakes of the original episodes. showcasing its laziness and what may be a subconscious desire to erase the past and replace it with copies. It literally does nothing new, and is just a waste of space and actual talent.

Then again, Arin can probably relate to that, albeit he'd be in denial of it.
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They aren't shot for shot remakes. Phil and Lil's dad is fucking gone and their mom is now a single lesbian mom, and grandpa is no longer a war vet and now is like a new-age spiritual hippie that protested the government his whole life no I am not shitting you they made grandpa into a fucking hipster.

Also yeah og rugrats had an intentionally rough artstyle that worked really well with fluid animation, but translating that (badly) to smooth 3d models with realistic skin textures and shit is not good.
 
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Call me a conspiracy theorist. but i keep wondering why people in the animation industry always pick pretentious artist from twitter despite there are WAY BETTER artist and animators from artstation. my assumption is that :

1.twitter artist are way cheaper
2.twittter artist are manipulative to their fans and the big-wigs exploit that fact
3.the exec only using twitter artist fame on twitter as a marketing scheme
4.the exec allow twitter artist do the fuck they want with their ip to artificially cause controversy for quick clicks
5.the exec just not value their customer time

in my opinion this is not sustainable if they keep hiring twitter artist who is potentially be a pedo,being manipulative to their fans or not a very pleasant people to be around. could harm the reputation of animation industry either disney or CN for that matter the investor would just pull out their money and make them to go bankrupt

also another thing reputation is a big aspect when it comes to business. if the animation industry keep harming their reputation like this and disrespect customers time,the customer would just move on and finding alternative leaving them to dust.

in conclusion STOP HIRING TWITTER ARTIST AND DO BACKGROUND CHECKS SERIOUSLY WHY THEY KEEP LETTING A PEDO GET HIRED INTO THE INDUSTRY!!!
AND HOLY SHIT JUST HIRE SOMEONE FROM ARTSTATION ALREADY THEY DON'T JUST MAKES ART FOR VIDEO GAMES YKNOW!!!
 
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Anti pedo said:
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I was going to do a more thought-out explanation about the whole "Twitter artist" thing but after reading over it a few times you were right to warn people at the start, that was truly an 🧩 post. I will go over your assumptions since there are some things in there that caught my eye.
Anti pedo said:
1.twitter artist are way cheaper
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The studios aren't paying Twitter artists any less than than other storyboarders. showrunners, and artists that don't have an active social media presence, if they did then the "Better Deal for Animation" crapola that was popular on animation Twitter would've been a lot more vitriolic.
Anti pedo said:
2.twittter artist are manipulative to their fans and the big-wigs exploit that fact
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This largely depends on your definition of manipulative and what context you're using it in, showrunners have used their social media presence to advertise their shows and that's because the studios see it as free advertising.
Anti pedo said:
4.the exec allow twitter artist do the fuck they want with their ip to artificially cause controversy for quick clicks
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This is technically false as it varies from studio to studio, I know that Disney has (or at least used to) have clauses in their contracts that state all art made by their employees using their IPs was owned by the studio and could be used in any way Disney sees fit. And yes that includes porn as well, remember that the showrunner for American Dragon Jake Long was shown a vast collection of Kim Possible porn to showcase what fandoms would do to his show. And don't forget that Nickelodeon destroyed a massive amount of incredibly graphic Rugrats-themed storyboard jams after they found out about 'em.
Anti pedo said:
5.the exec just not value their customer time
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This one is ultimately correct but it's worth noting that the customer of today is exponentially less equipped in both critical thinking skills and time/money management skills than the customer of the 90s and early 2000s.
 
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Anti pedo said:
1.twitter artist are way cheaper
3.the exec only using twitter artist fame on twitter as a marketing scheme
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More like Twitter is just an 'easier' social media platform to get recognized on and get hired for an art job. Marketing goes a long way if you have an easy way to show off your work and stay in contact. Plus show off your p0rn st4sh
Anti pedo said:
in my opinion this is not sustainable if they keep hiring twitter artist who is potentially be a pedo,being manipulative to their fans or not a very pleasant people to be around. could harm the reputation of animation industry either disney or CN for that matter the investor would just pull out their money and make them to go bankrupt
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My dude, they've been here since the very beginning. It's just now we know about them more thanks to internet archives. If the creator of Ren and Stimpy can get away with abusing the fuck out of Nickelodeon's animators and policies, then anyone can.
Not to mention a lot of bigwigs probably like the sick stuff so long as it sells $$$. It's not going away anytime soon.

How tf did this even get approved?
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Here's what she looks like normally.

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Edit: Fixed the images
 
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Neet Tokusatsu Hero said:
Jesus christ, it's like a textbook example of this picture.

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I guess that comic was a lot more accurate than i expected.
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Sad part is that normies don't think anything else of it because "It's a cartoon", which is why they get away with stuff like that.

Here, see this screenshot from A Pup Named Scooby-Doo?
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It looks innocuous enough, but you have to ask yourself: Why is there an anthropomorphic female dog in a dress winking to the camera with the caption "WOW" in a fashion magazine--I mean comix that human girls are into reading? Someone's typical answer will tend to be "Lol it's just a silly cartoon for kids bro, and it has a talking dog in it anyway. It's just a joke, there's no deeper meaning to it." Except even in context of the series, Scooby-Doo and his family are still seen as dogs who all just so happens to be able to talk and even own a huge manor for themselves and no one questions it, so that response still brings about more questions that has no answer. (And is the joke about hot bitches or what?)

And yeah, it is just a silly cartoon for little kids that is harmless at the end of the day, but kids remember the strangest little things from everything they see that sit there in the back of their minds that somehow or another gets warped the older they get. Was this all intentional, or was it by complete accident and it only became intentional when those kids grew up and entered the industry?

The artist in me says it's not, but that same artist also knows that an artist has to sit down and draw something that's on their mind or was requested of them. And unless proven otherwise, a drawing is intentional, it just can be either abstract or so on the nose that you have to call it out for what it is and what I'm saying is that white girls fuck dogs.
 
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Kari Kamiya said:
Sad part is that normies don't think anything else of it because "It's a cartoon", which is why they get away with stuff like that.

Here, see this screenshot from A Pup Named Scooby-Doo?
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It looks innocuous enough, but you have to ask yourself: Why is there an anthropomorphic female dog in a dress winking to the camera with the caption "WOW" in a fashion magazine--I mean comix that human girls are into reading? Someone's typical answer will tend to be "Lol it's just a silly cartoon for kids bro, and it has a talking dog in it anyway. It's just a joke, there's no deeper meaning to it." Except even in context of the series, Scooby-Doo and his family are still seen as dogs who all just so happens to be able to talk and even own a huge manor for themselves and no one questions it, so that response still brings about more questions that has no answer. (And is the joke about hot bitches or what?)

And yeah, it is just a silly cartoon for little kids that is harmless at the end of the day, but kids remember the strangest little things from everything they see that sit there in the back of their minds that somehow or another gets warped the older they get. Was this all intentional, or was it by complete accident and it only became intentional when those kids grew up and entered the industry?

The artist in me says it's not, but that same artist also knows that an artist has to sit down and draw something that's on their mind or was requested of them. And unless proven otherwise, a drawing is intentional, it just can be either abstract or so on the nose that you have to call it out for what it is and what I'm saying is that white girls fuck dogs.
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I don’t know if I like the implication that Daphne is into furry porn
 
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