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Noir drag freak said:
Personally, I prefer not to think about heterosexual people or normal society. In my experience. Most people tend to naturally segregate so that is really not hard to do. I find that the people who are crazy into activism or political movements, because of backlash to their religious/conservative upbringing. Or they’re just looking for meaning and belonging. It also works for conservatives movements too.

The best thing to do is just live life. Life is suffering after all.
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This answer is vague and doesn't actually satisfy my question. "Just live life" means vastly different things to different people. The modern groomer movement is based on just "being yourself".
 
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_SnailTrailsForElSniglet_ said:
Women are "stupid brood mares" who conveniently die young in childbirth, while men are for loving.
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No, that would imply I want to include straight men in my social circle. No I don’t want to live in a society where pseudo-bisexuality is the norm.

Aero the Alcoholic Bat said:
Every minority lives on the tolerance (at least mere tolerance) of the majority whether you like it or not. Fags don't really have a choice but to live on the tolerance/acceptance of those who are actually capable of carrying society.

It's extremely narcissistic to assume that you can just piss that goodwill away and not suffer for it. That when you do piss that goodwill away and invoke the wrath of everyone else, that it's not your own damned fault.
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Th first paragraph is why I’m a racial nationalist of sorts. I’m tired of having my shit together and paying for someone’s mistake. I’m not paying for anyone else mess. It’s like public school where the kids who want to be productive are dragged down by the ones who want constant attention.

You’re assuming that I would be the type to advocate for lgbt to be taught in schools. Again, school should just teach the practical stuff meaning math and science, let the parents sort their children out.

As for the question of reproduction, why do you care? If my ideal was reached you’ll never see a homosexual again. I mean don’t you think that my solution to this whole mess , although unlikely, is great. Your kids and people like you will finally live your life in peace and so would I.



Oilspill Battery said:
This answer is vague and doesn't actually satisfy my question. "Just live life" means vastly different things to different people. The modern groomer movement is based on just "being yourself".
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Most of my ideas are based on black nationalist movement. I’m also influenced by Ayn Rand. For one thing, I think that homosexuality shouldn’t be taught at schools. My idea of homosexuality is based on early 20th upper class homosexuals. The idea is to ignore straight people and not disturb the popular order. So to me, “Living your life”means don’t even bother with activism. Don’t change the status quo just move or create your own community.
 
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Noir drag freak said:
If I could I would build my own homosexual territory
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A ghetto for gay people basically, doesn't sound like a bad idea at all. I would be tempted to consider suicide, if I were forced to live with other gays.
Noir drag freak said:
The idea is to ignore straight people and not disturb the popular order. So to me, “Living your life”means don’t even bother with activism. Don’t change the status quo
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I'm okay with this though, like why don't stop at this point? Living in a echo chamber is really not good for you, that's how extremists are created
 
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Vingle said:
A ghetto for gay people basically, doesn't sound like a bad idea at all. I would be tempted to consider suicide, if I were forced to live with other gays.

I'm okay with this though, like why don't stop at this point? Living in a echo chamber is really not good for you, that's how extremists are created
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The problem is that their is no gatekeeping in the gay community, you guys let them in because of notions that they’re oppressed and outcasted. The gay community is currently being run by people who Middle Suburban America rejected. I’m a old school gay where I love refinement and beauty. Would the likes of Truman Capote, Tennessee Williams or Mishima associate with someone who ear gauges, tattoos, and a nose ring? No. So why should I? Because heterosexuals lump me in with those rejects. I wish I could write a piece on how the middle class and suburban teenage culture ruined the gay community. My dream community would be classist, posh, and elegant.
I know this is going to sound contradictory. But I feel like homophobia helped the gay community. It helped created standards for the gay community.


The reason why I desire a gay nation is because diversity limits a groups potential. I take my idea from ecology and evolution. Why is it that the Japanese or Nigerians tend to a wider variety of cultural expressions than black or Asian Americans? Because they make up the majority. As well, the fact that Nigerians and Japanese don’t have their identity questions when they experiment with different artistic forms. It’s the same when one species can’t diversify because other animals are occupying niches in the ecosystem.
 
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Oilspill Battery said:
He literally brought those up as an example of uglyness that he doesn't want to associate with and called them rejects.
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His standards don't really matter.

What matters is, that I have never heard of anyone describing themselves as someone who "Loves refinement and beauty" that hasn't also ended up being just the biggest Faggot (and not a good way) or a serial killer. That is like the most pompous and retarted way of describing your tastes.

Guess what moron, everyone who has a thing they like, thinks its refined and beautiful unless you're really into seeing how depraved and degenerate you can become.

Dude needs to quit acting like he's a man of culture and taste. He's a faggot LARPing as a gentlemen of a bygon era and using it as both a shield against criticism made against the community he belongs to and simoltaniously a sword to skewer any critics or part of society that's not willing to play his game and call him what he wants to see himself as.

Thank god this dude won't be having children.
 
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His standards don't really matter.

What matters is, that I have never heard of anyone describing themselves as someone who "Loves refinement and beauty" that hasn't also ended up being just the biggest Faggot (and not a good way) or a serial killer. That is like the most pompous and retarted way of describing your tastes.

Guess what moron, everyone who has a thing they like, thinks its refined and beautiful unless you're really into seeing how depraved and degenerate you can become.

Dude needs to quit acting like he's a man of culture and taste. He's a faggot LARPing as a gentlemen of a bygon era and using it as both a shield against criticism made against the community he belongs to and simoltaniously a sword to skewer any critics or part of society that's not willing to play his game and call him what he wants to see himself as.

Thank god this dude won't be having children.
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How am I trying to protect the LGBT community when I’m hoping for a backlash? Like I said the lgbt community can become oppressed again for all I care. Yes, I’m using my ideals as a sword. I’m defending myself most of all. I haven’t been laid in years so I have no reason to lament the oppression or destruction that is deservingly coming to the gay community.

Yes, I’m a bitter ole’ queen faggot who longs for the ole world.
 
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Noir drag freak said:
How am I trying to protect the LGBT community when I’m hoping for a backlash? Like I said the lgbt community can become oppressed again for all I care. Yes, I’m using my ideals as a sword. I’m defending myself most of all. I haven’t been laid in years so I have no reason to lament the oppression or destruction that is deservingly coming to the gay community.

Yes, I’m a bitter ole’ queen faggot who longs for the ole world.
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No one said you were trying to protect the Lettuce Gay Bacon and Tomato lobby. I said you're defending your dumb ass ideals that make no sense and aren't grounded in anything resembling reality by throwing out these moronic takes of "Oh I just like refinement and beauty." As though you're some how above it all, when you aren't.

Meanwhile you take that same stance, that you're using to say you're "Totally different than the run of the mill gay" and so immune to any criticisms targetting that lobby and their behavior and most importantly, whom they claim to represent and using it as a sword to explain why your dumb ass ideas are somehow better or more refined.

Meanwhile all you've actually done, as act like a total fag (not in the good way), who's also extremely pretentious and has suggested Ghettos for gays who meet your weird fetishistic standards that aren't rooted in anything, 'cause last time I checked, anytime the "Ole World" make a special designated area for the "People of Refinement and Beauty" as you call them, it typically went very, very badly for them.

You're a moron using elitism and pseudo refinement as a shield for your completely stupid ideas that have no basis in reality and never have, while also using it as a sword to attack everyone who points out how fucking detached and mental you actually are.
 
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bearycool said:
The fuck is pseudo-bisexuality?

Nigger I remember when we just used to use the phrase “gay for pay” or whatever.
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I assume it refers to straight White women who identified as bi for some sort of woke brownie points. Except now those same women just call themselves "queer" or "non-binary"

The only time I've ever seen or heard of guys pretending to be bi is either gay-for-pay or if they're a pop star pandering to the fangirls.

It's weird to think about that since I'm bi myself and generally lean more towards dudes but I'm marrying a woman because she has an awesome personality and the two of us just click together very well.

I'll admit that I honestly wasn't expecting my life to play out like that, but my fiancé really is that wonderful.
 
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Close to my hometown there is debate about book bans in schools and a big focus is what they call "LGBTQ+." I wish we could have dropped the TQ long ago because Heather Has Two Mommies-style books are lumped in with books about gender identity. However I think banning any books that aren't straight up erotica is stupid and pointless. There are a disturbing amount of trans kids in the school district now but banning books won't stop the social contagion. It's so disheartening because I personally remember the low to high key homophobia while I was in public school just a decade ago. We only had a few years of "gay is ok" without "clothing has gender magic, yeet your teats"
 
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Ann Berlin said:
Close to my hometown there is debate about book bans in schools and a big focus is what they call "LGBTQ+." I wish we could have dropped the TQ long ago because Heather Has Two Mommies-style books are lumped in with books about gender identity. However I think banning any books that aren't straight up erotica is stupid and pointless. There are a disturbing amount of trans kids in the school district now but banning books won't stop the social contagion. It's so disheartening because I personally remember the low to high key homophobia while I was in public school just a decade ago. We only had a few years of "gay is ok" without "clothing has gender magic, yeet your teats"
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Trannies ruin everything for everybody.
 
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Syaoran Li said:
I assume it refers to straight White women who identified as bi for some sort of woke brownie points. Except now those same women just call themselves "queer" or "non-binary"

The only time I've ever seen or heard of guys pretending to be bi is either gay-for-pay or if they're a pop star pandering to the fangirls.

It's weird to think about that since I'm bi myself and generally lean more towards dudes but I'm marrying a woman because she has an awesome personality and the two of us just click together very well.

I'll admit that I honestly wasn't expecting my life to play out like that, but my fiancé really is that wonderful.
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All this is fine though. At its core, it's character that defines close relationships above all else. Even great sex doesn't fill that space.

Wish you two a happy long one!
 
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Aero the Alcoholic Bat said:
Every minority lives on the tolerance (at least mere tolerance) of the majority whether you like it or not. Fags don't really have a choice but to live on the tolerance/acceptance of those who are actually capable of carrying society.

It's extremely narcissistic to assume that you can just piss that goodwill away and not suffer for it. That when you do piss that goodwill away and invoke the wrath of everyone else, that it's not your own damned fault.



LMAO, what makes you think you can maintain a population without the help of straight people?



It's no wonder they groom kids, their only means of "reproduction" is to corrupt what already exists, like a virus.
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That only happens in the paranoid delusions of culture warriors. A evil pedophile cabal isn't the reason fags exist.
 
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