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His rambling online chimpouts every time there was a televised committee hearing are a great example of why he has a thread here. President Lolcow indeed.
Careercow Donald J Trump - 45th/47th President of the USA, convicted felon, Epstein bro, Putin simp, serial liar, sore loser, cheat and the Chris-Chan of Presidents. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL DEBATE THREAD.
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I have met children who whine less than him.
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I thought the right was tired of candidates who “lose with dignity”. Trump is truly their man.
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this all sounds good on paper as some kind of tom clancy esque armchair politick circa the bush administration but it isn't reflected in the world at large or basic observable reality. i mean, trump actually met face to face with the leader of north korea after threating nuclear war (he played that flawlessly), played hardball with china (the country currently undermining our economy and financial system), met with the collective arab leadership in the middle east (our enemies, right?), and was completely subservient to israel (our number one strategic millitary asset). i'm not really sure how you can characterize what he did as idiotic unless you're completely unaware of what fabian strategy is
i also don't know how you can say that unless you're pretending that europe is still important to US's policy goals abroad - you're basically just arguing that he pissed off the EU and the globohomo paradigm and that's why he was a bad president. i don't know if you're noticing this but russia is currently invading ukraine and financial institutions are funneling as much wealth and assets away from europe, through ukraine, into other countries all while stuffing it full of unskilled migrants who are guaranteed welfare. it's a powderkeg waiting to explode and pulling out of europe is probably the smartest thing he did, and going back in is the dumbest thing biden has done. the global stage is not the same as it was when obama first became president and you're trying to argue from the perspective of it. things aren't the same anymore.
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Again, utter nonsense. Is the concept of honoring international treaties (both those decades old and the foundation of US' hegemony as well as those Trump signed personally mere hours before) a literal case of "tom clancy esque armchair politick" to you?
Trump publically questioned whether the US would truly send troops to NATO nations in case they get attacked by a foreign nation.
You better believe Putin and Xi pricked up their ears when they heard that. And you better believe a shitton of US partners raised their eyebrows, too, wondering how wise it is to trust the US both short- and longterm.
He also signed a couple of treaties and then simply went "lolno changed my mind", in one special case literally on the flight back home.
Brinkmanship isn't really a good strategy when it concerns your own allies, you know. It causes iritation, wastes trust and causes political issues.
He called him a chubby dwarf, tweeted mean words about his broken nukes, then went to meet him, shook his hand, called him a great guy and then... sweet fuck-all happened with nothing changing at all.
Trumpoids celebrated the soon-to-be reunification of the Koreas brought by Trump, however the moment he went back home, Kim just did what his family had done for decades. After all, that whole kerfuffle was just the umpteenth time the Norks rattled their sabre to get some new UN help packages to alleviate their various famines and shortages in direly needed goods. Only this time, they also got some neat group photos with Trump to put in their museum of lies and claim that Trump went to kiss Kim's ass.
Nothing else was accomplished here.
He started some trade war shit with China, but overall it accomplished nothing. Again.
Quite idiotically, he started a trade war with Europe at the same time. He introduced tariffs to reduce the trade imbalance, but these tariffs were botched from the start. For example, he aimed a tariff at car manifacturers, who very easily skirted around the tariffs, cause they already had production lines in the US, so that whole thing went "poof". Tariffs might help to reduce the trade imbalance, but they also create issues down the line by increasing production cost. If, say, your nation imports steel despite having a domestic steel production industry, there are only three possible explanations: The domestic steel is not up to spec, it's not sufficient in volume or it's too expensive. Adding tariffs does not improve quality of domestic steel, it does not increase volume and it does not make domestic steel less expensive. So the only outcome is a price increase for steel on the domestic market, which hurts those companies that use steel, which in turn either trickles down to the buyer or causes the production to be less profitable. The former also affects exports to nations that might be pissed off at the tariffs imposed on their steel, so they might pay back in kind on your steel-products and suddenly your steel works run less profitable on a much harsher market. Ever wonder why there's free trade to begin with? This is one reason why.
Another issue is that the TPP, tailor made to act against China, was dropped by Trump the moment he came into office, which meant that the whole project was hamstrung. The fact the TPP co-signing nations contemplated to take up China instead of the US was a huge "You dun goof'd" moment and had that happened, it would have been purest irony, since it would mean that Trump had just served a vast swathe of the strongest economies in the region to China on a golden platter. For no good reason, mind you.
See, the funny thing is, these nations wanted to counteract China, but they also want trade. If the US spits in their eye, they might as well ditch the idea of containing China economically and attempt to use the TPP to influence China via economic incentives instead. This, of course, runs entirely ad odds with Trump's plans to curbstomp China, but when the US pisses on their treaties in public like Trump did, why should any nation still give a shit what Trump wants? This is why nations need to adhere to the treaties they signed.
As has been stated numerous times in this thread: The US profitted off of NATO, the US-Japan Security Treaty or similar treaties for decades, even though they came with a certain bill attached. It still allowed the US a lot of sway in a lot of nation's policies, but Trump decided he wanted all the fun and none of the work, so he insinuated that, for instance, he'd not help an attacked NATO nation if he doesn't feel like it, yet still expected that nation to dance to his tune for no reason at all.
This is why international trust is so important. When these other nations trust in your nation to keep its word (especially when it comes to national security, something the US is keen on for itself anyway!), then they might do things that are at odds with their own interests, if they know it helps the nation that they rely on for protection. When these other nations don't trust in your willingness or ability to protect them, they might just decide to do what's best for themselves. Shocker, right?
And what did he have to show for himself in terms of accomplishments? A bunch of photos where he shakes hands, calls some barbarians great guys and that's it, I presume? Neat-o.
You said he accomplished things, I'd like to see those things, cause I certainly don't see what he accomplished. Hey, he partially constructed the wall he promised, but alas, Mexico has yet to pay for it I guess.
The one thing where he actually did commit to a long-standing political tradition, honored the US' responsibilities and it's the one thing that gets Rightoids BLANGRY cause Trump wasn't the antisemite they had hoped for.
Correct me if I'm wrong: The idea of Fabian Strategy is to cause attrition in your enemy. Problem is: the only thing that attrited under Trump are foreign relations, especially with NATO and EU states, which are US allies.
This is some "Tell me you have no idea about US-EU relations without telling me you have no idea of US-EU relations" shit right there.
The US and EU are economically and strategically connected in a way that would completely cripple the US, if the EU went tits up and you need to be completely ignorant of World Economy 101 if you need to be told that. This point really ties into everything I said above, especially when it comes to the trade war with China, since it's much easier and far less of an economic problem to act against China together.
The US has a major interest in keeping Europe as a whole stable, for various reasons, I'll focus on the trade aspect, since it is a really good example of why what you said wasn't just wrong, it was outright insane.
Going by 2018 numbers (literally a random year in the middle of Trump's presidency), we get these numbers for trade:
The EU accounts for ~20% of US' two-way trade, which comes down to 20% of its exports and almost a quarter of its imports.
This makes the EU the largest market for US exports (via sea-trade, mind you and not even Mexico and Canada can keep up, despite their proximity!) and its second largest market for resources, services and goods in total. Assuming the EU went tits-up, the US would be in dire need of a market to sell to as well as to buy from. Who's going to pick up where the EU would leave off? China?
This is also a neat moment to point out that the trade imbalance with the EU might be somewhat substantial, but it's a fucking joke compared to the trade imbalance with China, which outweighs even the US exports to the EU by a factor of 100 million dollars. That's why you'd take every help you can get from Europe to curbstomp China, but the Tard in Command had better plans and they accomplished... nothing. Whoops.
The whole tardrage tantrum over trade imbalance is silly anyway. "Oh no, a nation is offering goods and services that I can't get anywhere else, the horror!" How about trying to work towards offering similar goods and services at competetive prices? When you get outperformed by the EU in terms of affordable high-end products, you've got issues that are all your own.
It's also utterly nonsensical to claim Trump "pulled out of Europe", what exactly did he pull out from Europe? These "assets" that are somehow magically funneled through Ukraine without anyone noticing? That's another topkek moment in your post btw. The idea that within a few months, or even years, someone can just grab a shitton of "assets" and somehow withdraw them from Europe someplace else is beyond moronic. It's the kind of shit that would literally be impossible to overlook, since it would be such an economically devastating cataclysm, it would make the economic fallout of 2 years of the 'rona look like a pleasant stroll through the local golf court.
Just for shits and giggles, US investments in Europe outweigh investments in all of Asia by a factor of 3 to 1. The other way around, Europe's investements in the US outweight the investments in India and China 8 to 1.
And those are 2020 numbers (so how exactly did Trump "pull out"?), can you imagine how many millions of jobs these investments affect on a daily basis in the US? The trickle down effect needs to be considered as well, it's very well possible that a company with large EU investment creates jobs for domestic SMEs in the US... this in turn creates another set of jobs for other SMEs in the US and so on ad nauseum.
I think you'de have noticed that house of cards come crashing down, mate.
The tl;dr version: You're one of those rightoid dipshits that unironically uses the term "globohomo" and you most likely also buy into the Great Reset fairytale or whatever, so me expecting you to understand that the US is economically tied to trade with Europe (and China, btw) is really putting a lot of goodwill into the mix.
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Well obviously because of massive fraud, because an incredibly popular stable genius like Donald Trump could never just outright lose to a senile moron through his own incompetence.
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Can’t wait to see you guys lose your shit and chimp out if he wins re-election.
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I think you misunderstand this thread, we'll be howling with laughter at the ones bitching about MUH STOLEN ELECTION just as much as we laugh at rightoids whining over MUH STUFFED BALLOTS now.
We'd also enjoy every single second of Trump once more making an ass of himself on an international stage.
I really hope Trump runs again next time, it can only be funny, no matter what happens.
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I think you’ll all be whining regardless of what side you’re on. Trump boys will be whining because the left is whining at them and the left will be whining because Trump inevitably said something dumb or racist. Let’s not pretend any of you are any better than that. You lot belly ache just as much as the blue hairs and you know it. I’ve read this thread after all, I should know.
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You don’t seem to understand how cow threads work.
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Dude, go through my posts from 2016 to 2017 and see me rolling with laughter at the snowflakes having mental breakdowns at the inauguration.
Your attitude is childish . . . and frankly, it's kinda the reason this thread exists.
But feel free to pretend anyone that thinks Trump is a dumb dipshit must also be some leftoid wanker, we won't challenge your worldview if it's so important to you.
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this nigga needs to stop saying that we live in a "Judeo-Christian" country
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I hate that fucking phrase. Jews need to stop pushing the lie that they have some sort of common cause with Christian values. Sorry, you rejected Christ as the Messiah, you can't combine these religions.
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You don’t know much about Christianity do you? I’ve got some shocking news about Jesus for you….
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The amount of coping and seething coming from this man is incredible.
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Who would have thought the right would also be massive consumers of copium?
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I'm pretty sure that Trump's peculiar definition of "Rigged and Stolen" is simply that he lost, because his statements about the election are practically a carbon copy of his statements about the Emmys back when he was on The Apprentice.
Trump is incapable of entertaining (much less accepting) the possibility that he could ever lose fairly in a popularity contest, because the thought of anyone or anything else being more popular or more well-liked than him is like kryptonite for his ego.
That's about as deep as this goes in my opinion. I'm not going to give him the credit and pretend that he's playing 4D chess or trying to cynically manipulate his way back into power like some power-crazed autocrat; he's really more like a petulant toddler throwing his toys out the pram because he isn't getting his way. A very sad spectacle for a 76-year-old man.
The value system of Judaism is not actually all that different from the value system of Christianity. The main difference between the two faiths is the position of Jesus and the fact that Christianity largely did away with the old laws.
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I’ll say it again: the Thunderdome and a lot of right wing people online has said that they don’t want Republicans that just “lose with dignity”, so Trump truly is their guy.
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Stole his name, stole his election, stole his likeliness, just STOLEN from him!
Literally sounds like DSP, and people like this dude.