Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[SpaceAce]

If this is not an allowed question, please delete, tease or downrate me. I have heard many tales of dissatisfaction with surgically created vaginas. Are there any credible stories of people having functioning satisfying sexual organs crafted? Is there anything empirical out there that indicates a better quality of life, post SRS.?

No, I'm not looking for masturbatory fantasies of Eros where people don;t realise they are dealing with retrofitted wetware. I'm wondering about post surgery satisfaction and a subsequent upturn in mood, improvement in quality of life.

"Are there any credible stories of people having functioning satisfying sexual organs crafted"

No, because that's just not possible.
The best you can hope for with these surgeries is to have some feeling left in your previously perfectly functioning sexual organs. Surgery isn't alchemy; you can't just stitch together pieces and have them create something new. It's easier to explain with phallo; no amount of sculpting and rewiring will suddenly allow a woman to create and shoot semen. The same goes for men who want women's orgasms (I won't lie, I have done no research into how a woman and a man's orgasms feel differently nor do I care to. I'm assuming they do since that's the holy grail for MtFs but the point still stands; hacking and slicing doesn't magically give you new positive sensations and experiences, just the pain and misery anyone would get from having a knife run through their dick).

If you (dear reader, not just Lance Private Drop Off) are still having a hard time understanding why let me give you this analogy.
Think of a food you hate.
Now imagine someone told you that you could love the taste of that food by shaving off your tastebuds. Would you believe them? Would you seriously believe that cutting away the very things that allow you to taste could somehow give you a better experience than what you have now? The best you could hope for with your goal of "liking" that food is to damage yourself so badly you just no longer taste it, which some people might still go for because it's "close enough" to liking it, but by doing so you've also sacrificed your ability to enjoy the foods you once liked naturally (and most likely the ability to enjoy eating anything at all thanks to the constant pain or, if you're lucky, numbness).

Pretty stupid, right? But people believe it about their genitals, even though they're WAY more complex than my example. And whether they're ignorant enough (due to lack of research, willful ignorance or actual mental impairment due to autism) to believe they'll get a perfectly functioning set of genitals or know the risks and are willing to dull all sexual sensation for their "close enough" (with SRS that would be the cope excuses we see where they're broken and bleeding but so happy be able to stand to pee, or just not have to see a dick when they look down anymore).

So no. There are no credible stories about people having function, satisfying sexual organs crafted. At best they can still get off on their fantasy's and have some of their previous sensations left, and any successful orgasm will not actually feel any different from their previous ones because lead doesn't become gold when you paint it; it's still all the same parts sending the same signals to the same brain, just stitched up differently.

 

[AfghanBlue]

There's a whole Facebook group for victims of Cetrulo, and there's definitely been plenty of drama since it was discovered that he has never successfully completed the "delayed abdominal" procedure he invented. He has also been showing prospective patients photographs of the results of completely different methods of phalloplasty.

He's a quack. We all know those stomach tentacles aren't fixable by him or by any other surgeon, because we've heard from some FTMs that other surgeons they've gone to for repair work have no idea what the fuck he was even trying to do. I'd really love to get a look at that Facebook group, I bet it's a gold mine.

so when troons are out on reddit talking about 'abdo' when discussing 'phallo and 'orchis' its actually undeserving of its totally-NBD shortened nick-name?

I wonder whats going on with Elephant Dick rn.

 

[Cryptosporidium 136]

The same goes for men who want women's orgasms

Things get a bit muddled up here, because people will tell you it’s impossible for women to orgasm from penetration, and that only clit stimulation will do the job. This is not true of all women. It does come down to the clit though; troons only have a fake one on the outside. They don’t have the internal structure that makes penetration pleasurable.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Things get a bit muddled up here, because people will tell you it’s impossible for women to orgasm from penetration, and that only clit stimulation will do the job. This is not true of all women. It does come down to the clit though; troons only have a fake one on the outside. They don’t have the internal structure that makes penetration pleasurable.

basically, a minority of women are very lucky where their G spot happens to be, and it gets a decent amount of stimulation from no-frills bangin'.

they are the few who people tend to reckon are 'nymphos', only because they tend to like sex as much as men, becasue its pretty much as easily enjoyable as men find it.

Seems like being a dude is much better, sex wise- only thing is, women dont have time to recharge , and the pressure is off as regards things like getting it up, lasting long..

so basically if youa re a dude who is a mix of incredibly lazy, whilst also impaitent- read, an insufferable man-child, thats aobut the only reason you would have some drive to swap sexual experiences...which wont work anyway but just ignore that fact!

 

[Lady Farishta]

Things get a bit muddled up here, because people will tell you it’s impossible for women to orgasm from penetration, and that only clit stimulation will do the job. This is not true of all women. It does come down to the clit though; troons only have a fake one on the outside. They don’t have the internal structure that makes penetration pleasurable.

Tmi but yeah it's possible to orgasm from penetration alone and it's possible to orgasm without any physical stimulation as well.

 

[safety math]

Thing is (and I guess this is something most troons know deep down even though they won't acknowledge it), the men actually attracted to these botched genitals are only a special subset of "chasers". No sane person without this gross fetish, whether they're straight, gay or bi, will ever find these body horrors attractive. Some might look past it because they love the person inside that body, like one could look past the looks of a burn victim or facial deformities, but that would require an attractive personality far beyond "being transgender".

Even most chasers seem to prefer having the male genitals intact with the “transition” applying to everywhere else. Tranny porn or shemale or whatever it’s called on porn sites doesn’t usually refer to post-SRS trannies.

I honestly don’t think ANYONE is attracted to neovaginas. They might think they are, or be attracted to the idea of it, but for the reasons documented in this thread, actually encountering one in real life (let alone actually having one) is probably pretty gross and uncanny valley. That’s why most troons are relegated to dating other troons and not the hot lesbos or straight men they were hoping for.

 

[BunchofMunch]

Even most chasers seem to prefer having the male genitals intact with the “transition” applying to everywhere else. Tranny porn or shemale or whatever it’s called on porn sites doesn’t usually refer to post-SRS trannies.

I honestly don’t think ANYONE is attracted to neovaginas. They might think they are, or be attracted to the idea of it, but for the reasons documented in this thread, actually encountering one in real life (let alone actually having one) is probably pretty gross and uncanny valley. That’s why most troons are relegated to dating other troons and not the hot lesbos or straight men they were hoping for.

Yeah, that's what I meant by "a special subset of chasers", my thoughts go to the same kind of degenerates that get off to snuff films or such...like...serial killer type of chaser.

 

[Ish Kabibble]

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[autoerotic bus accident]

It's already happened almost a hundred years ago.

Assuming nothing changes from today, tomorrow you will surely have women getting their uterus harvested for the troons. There's a financial incentive to use every part of the cow, so to speak, so at least in the US it is a natural development of the insurance/troon lobby dynamic.

You're talking about "Lili" Elbe. He died in the '30s because they randomly stitched a female organ somewhere into his abdominal cavity (sources differ on whether it was a uterus or an ovary). He died quite quickly, because the procedure was performed before anything resembling modern transplant medicine was developed. Anti-rejection drugs weren't invented yet, and "gender" "scientists" believed that sex was a spectrum and you could surgically move people further toward one end or the other. He was basically one example of proto-nazi doctors performing a human experiment. In the States at that time there were doctors implanting goat testicles into adult men claiming to improve their virility, so it was sort of on that level.

Suffice to say: I completely agree with you that medical ethics are dead, and any procedure that is possible to perform for money will be performed, regardless of ethicality. But uterine implants into men (and male pregnancy) are not currently possible and researchers agree they are not going to be possible anytime soon. The crude, unregulated plastic surgery monstrosities we see in this thread are worlds away from the complexities of transplant medicine and organ donation. I'm just saying this so women can relax about this one particular thing. While troons are clearly desperate to steal uteruses, society will have pod-grown humans before male pregnancies. Women in the far future may have to worry about it, if industrialized society lasts that long, but everyone old enough to be reading this can take a deep breath.

(Plastic surgeons who claim they are on the cusp or have "plans" to perform the procedure are lying for clout and free publicity. The media is retarded, so it always works.)

Below I made a non-exhaustive list of a few reasons male uterine implants/male pregnancy can't imminently happen, which you can reference to argue with troons online if you so choose.

Spoiler: very boring medsperge

1. Sex is determined at conception, when males get XY chromosomes and females get XX chromosomes. Our chromosomal arrangement is explicitly differentiated and expressed in approximately 2/3 of our genes, and that's what determines how we develop as men or women. The presence of the Y chromosome deactivates the body's ability to generate a placenta, because it rightly assumes a male will never have the need to create a pregnancy-related organ. Attempts to force male placentogenesis via gene editing would result in uncontrollable tumors.

2. The uterus is supported in the female pelvis by an arrangement of ligaments including the round ligament, the broad ligament, the cardinal ligament(s), and the infundibulopelvic ligament. These ligaments contain the various aspects of the uterine blood supply, and they "hold up" the uterus and keep it correctly positioned, including during pregnancy. There is no way to replicate these ligaments with contemporary plastic surgery, and there are no proposals on how it might be done.

3. Uterine transplants are exclusively performed in females, exclusively to treat a condition called "uterine agenesis" where the uterus does not develop normally due to a birth defect. There is a set of criteria for uterine transplants called the Montreal criteria which stipulate explicitly that the recipient must be a genetic female and must have the entirety of an intact female reproductive system besides the uterus, including her own ovaries. Men obviously don't have this.

4. Anti-rejection medication is extremely hard on the body and creates a lifelong risk due to its immunosuppressive effects. Because of this, uterine transplants into women are temporary. The transplant occurs, the woman becomes pregnant, a C-section is performed, and the uterus is surgically removed. The fantasy of troons having uteruses they can walk around with forever is not how it works. Transplants only occur for a truncated period of one or several pregnancies, and male pregnancy isn't possible, so there is no reason to perform the transplant.

5. Our understanding of the immune and endocrine changes which make pregnancy possible in women is very, very poor. We do not understand exactly what changes occur to make the female immune system not attack a fetus as it would attack other foreign cells. We can't pharmacologically replicate this condition in many infertile women, and we are not close to replicating this condition in a man. Pregnancy also involves incredibly precisely timed hormonal surges to ensure fetal survival and development, and these are also poorly understood. If we were ever able to map the entire endocrine structure of a pregnancy (we aren't close to this), it would still require a man to be hooked up to a computer and an IV bag for the entire nine months.

6. Blood transfusions from parous women appear to significantly increase male morbidity, indicating that whatever microchanges occur during pregnancy are somehow incompatible with male morphology. We don't understand why this happens, so we can't fix it.

7. Chinese researchers tried implanting uteruses into rats and getting them pregnant. To do this, they had to graft live, pregnant female rats to the male rats so the female's blood supply could parabiotically maintain the pregnancies. Even with this fucking frankenstein shit, only 4% of the embryos survived, and they were mutated and died after a few hours. https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/study-that-impregnated-male-rats-stirs-controversy-68928

8. This one is hypothetical: the uterus is connected to the autonomic nervous system, which coordinates our unconscious functions. It's entirely probable that a male brain, governing the body with the guidance of a Y chromosome, would simply not know how to regulate a uterus and it would just sit there with no functional blood supply no matter what you connected it to, much like how you couldn't force the male body to create a placenta.

9. Lastly - troon males think taking estrogen makes them immediately able to get pregnant. This is because they are retards who don't understand anything about female biology. Females take estrogen to avoid becoming pregnant. A male on a continuous dose of estrogen might get sad moobs, but he would never, ever get a period, kind of like how a woman can suppress her period by taking a continuous dose of an estrogen birth control pill. Males wouldn't get a period on the doses of estrogen they take to gain their dubious cosmetic changes, so there would really be no point to a uterine implant.

 

[Sweet Musica]

"Are there any credible stories of people having functioning satisfying sexual organs crafted"

No, because that's just not possible.
The best you can hope for with these surgeries is to have some feeling left in your previously perfectly functioning sexual organs. Surgery isn't alchemy; you can't just stitch together pieces and have them create something new. It's easier to explain with phallo; no amount of sculpting and rewiring will suddenly allow a woman to create and shoot semen. The same goes for men who want women's orgasms (I won't lie, I have done no research into how a woman and a man's orgasms feel differently nor do I care to. I'm assuming they do since that's the holy grail for MtFs but the point still stands; hacking and slicing doesn't magically give you new positive sensations and experiences, just the pain and misery anyone would get from having a knife run through their dick).

If you (dear reader, not just Lance Private Drop Off) are still having a hard time understanding why let me give you this analogy.
Think of a food you hate.
Now imagine someone told you that you could love the taste of that food by shaving off your tastebuds. Would you believe them? Would you seriously believe that cutting away the very things that allow you to taste could somehow give you a better experience than what you have now? The best you could hope for with your goal of "liking" that food is to damage yourself so badly you just no longer taste it, which some people might still go for because it's "close enough" to liking it, but by doing so you've also sacrificed your ability to enjoy the foods you once liked naturally (and most likely the ability to enjoy eating anything at all thanks to the constant pain or, if you're lucky, numbness).

Pretty stupid, right? But people believe it about their genitals, even though they're WAY more complex than my example. And whether they're ignorant enough (due to lack of research, willful ignorance or actual mental impairment due to autism) to believe they'll get a perfectly functioning set of genitals or know the risks and are willing to dull all sexual sensation for their "close enough" (with SRS that would be the cope excuses we see where they're broken and bleeding but so happy be able to stand to pee, or just not have to see a dick when they look down anymore).

So no. There are no credible stories about people having function, satisfying sexual organs crafted. At best they can still get off on their fantasy's and have some of their previous sensations left, and any successful orgasm will not actually feel any different from their previous ones because lead doesn't become gold when you paint it; it's still all the same parts sending the same signals to the same brain, just stitched up differently.

Female and male orgasms are quite similar. Both bodies get tense and make contractions and the brain is stimulated in the same areas. There are a few differences of course, women normally last longer and can go again. Can't imagine the actual orgasm sensation feeling that different.

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

Tmi but yeah it's possible to orgasm from penetration alone and it's possible to orgasm without any physical stimulation as well.

Maybe for some people but let's be honest, I doubt it's possible for everybody.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Female and male orgasms are quite similar. Both bodies get tense and make contractions and the brain is stimulated in the same areas. There are a few differences of course, women normally last longer and can go again. Can't imagine the actually orgasm sensation feeling that different.

Even if they did feel different, it's something that is literally impossible to verify, because a man can never experience a female orgasm (and vice versa) to compare what they feel like.

 

[AfghanBlue]

On

It makes sense that troons who get colon-ginas make whole rooms smell like ass: It's not as if they are also given synthetic sphincters to close off that colon stank. Everyone has colons, but those who have healthy sphincters closing them off don't throw off fart stank 24/7. With this troon surgery, it's like they're creating an open colon with no sphincter.

this subject, found this link from the asktransgender reddit…

https://postopcare.github.io/health/2015/07/27/VaginalFlora/

The guys next, and only post before the account goes silent, is his asking what kind of strap on to buy….


And from https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgende...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

BRRRRAP


God, I wonder what’s lodged up at the top? Those uncooked popcorn bits ?
Whatever was smelling like a stinky ear is stil there, it’s just forming into a stalactite up the top end

 

[Piss Bear]

Porn actresses overexaggerate their reactions to having orgasms in porn, so naturally, trannies think those women must be experiencing a superior orgasm to them. I believe that’s the main reason troons think women’s orgasms are better. The actress’s orgasm may be real, but that bitch is not feeling an orgasm any different from anyone else’s. They act for a living, of course they’re gonna make a show out of it.

One distinct difference between men and women’s orgasms is that yes, women’s orgasms do tend to last longer. That is true. But does one feel better than the other? Who fuckin’ knows. It varies from person to person. But it’s always better to just appreciate what you were born with rather than hacking up your genitalia and risking never orgasming again.

 

[quaawaa]

But does one feel better than the other? Who fuckin’ knows.

No one knows because no one has experienced both male and female orgasms and therefore no one can compare them.

 

[Lady Farishta]

I wonder whats going on with Elephant Dick rn.

for whatever reason I have a soft spot for her. I hope she aborted the operation before "clit burial" and reversed course in whatever way possible.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Even most chasers seem to prefer having the male genitals intact with the “transition” applying to everywhere else. Tranny porn or shemale or whatever it’s called on porn sites doesn’t usually refer to post-SRS trannies.

I honestly don’t think ANYONE is attracted to neovaginas. They might think they are, or be attracted to the idea of it, but for the reasons documented in this thread, actually encountering one in real life (let alone actually having one) is probably pretty gross and uncanny valley. That’s why most troons are relegated to dating other troons and not the hot lesbos or straight men they were hoping for.

The issue is the sexual organ is mutilated. No one wants to stick their dick in a botched open wound. Trooning out is voluntarily injuring yourself. I would take a fem boy with an intact dick than ever pick a troon with a artificially created hole.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

On

this subject, found this link from the asktransgender reddit…

https://postopcare.github.io/health/2015/07/27/VaginalFlora/

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The guys next, and only post before the account goes silent, is his asking what kind of strap on to buy….


And from https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgende...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

BRRRRAP
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Long ago my family had a dog with a tumor that burst. He was on doggy hospice so we were just keeping him comfortable. The next day, he died and everyone was very sad. But the smell from that tumor was so horrific, we took our entire house apart on a biblical scale. Anything he'd even looked at stank of actual death. Every blanket, towel, rug, pillow, and doily in the place had to be washed 3x on hot water with detergent that would burn your skin off. And we still kept finding stink pockets a couple weeks after he died. I just threw out the shirt I wore when we took him to the vet.

I imagine this is what it is like living with a stinkditch-installed troon on a daily basis.

 

[AfghanBlue]

for whatever reason I have a soft spot for her. I hope she aborted the operation before "clit burial" and reversed course in whatever way possible.

When the Nuremberg rally of humble fruit farmers genuinely care more for you than your troon peers, ‘allies’, and doctors you’ve paid tens of thousands…
Oh blind , your friends are out there. Somewhere

@Larry David's Crypto Fund my sympathy- when my childhood cat got knocked over and had leg surgery… the smell from the shaven patch of big long leg scar was so, so gross. I was always a kid who had to wait outside of butcher shops as I couldn’t stand the smell of blood, so idk if I’m a wimp about these things but..
Yeah, those smells are fkn gross.

And that ain’t even in the region of stink-bits.*
That in comparison just sits, up and away on its own, exposed to the air, not in regular motion, certainly not transporting piss, shit…

It’s external, allowed to heal… not being jabbed with a Medical Dildo, or trying to boost forth a urine stream from a priorly perfectly functional, existing system; now, rigged up to a hair filled, corpus-incomprehensible extension;
which the body is fighting all urges to cut off from blood flow and let die..

imagine the stresses that puts on areas deep down in regions of your brain..


*apologies… I heard the term in a redneck Facebook screencap, accusing a woman of cheating with her husband by displaying said S-bits to lure the taken husband, every time the host woman excused herself to the kitchen, etc.

 

[batteredpancakes]

Here's an interesting post that came up on r/phallo. Archive

Autistic tunnel vision. No wonder so many 41%, they put all their hopes and dreams into SRS.
This gives me as I have this issue with tunnel vision as well. This kind of thinking causes you to have unreasonably high expectations and inevitably causes a huge amount of grief and disappointment when it's not 100% lived up to.

They all think phallo is going to be the thing that fixes all their life problems.