Genshin Impact

[woowie queen]

Scaramouche wanters in absolute tatters after new rumors spread that he's basically a totally unrecognizable character. Apparently he's named "Wanderer" and uses an Anemo delusion. Also, his personality and design may be very different.

This is obviously hearsay from Twitter "leakers" with no confirmation or context of WHY he would be so different, but it's not stopping the dooming and coping on Reddit.

so... he got signora'd?

 

[Alex Yiik]

so... he got signora'd?

Signora died the same character she started as. The fear with Scara is that he'll be neutered from an actual villain to a reformed ally. I don't mind character development if done right, though. It seems like a lot of his fans have been obsessing over him for a year and a half and won't tolerate any deviation from the character they built up in their heads.

 

[LucasSomething]

Scaramouche wanters in absolute tatters after new rumors spread that he's basically a totally unrecognizable character. Apparently he's named "Wanderer" and uses an Anemo delusion. Also, his personality and design may be very different.

This is obviously hearsay from Twitter "leakers" with no confirmation or context of WHY he would be so different, but it's not stopping the dooming and coping on Reddit.

That's to be expected. Scara was laughing histerically at how many people he got killed, he is 100% evil and there is no way he's playable without some heavy character development or plot induced brainwashing.

Dottore fans better get prepared for the worst too cause if he's ever playable then no fucking way it will be the guy who experiments on children, it will be a copy who did nothing wrong and might be teen or even female.

There is also the matter that all harbingers are massive walking spoilers. Childe happens early enough to not show much but making it obvious that endgame villains are playable can ruin or confuse the experience of newcomers. Honkai is particularly bad at this so i guess they want to avoid it in genshin.

 

[Genesis Does]

To help balance the doomposting out a bit, there's reason to believe his personality is actually changing to be more harsh, not less

Spoiler: Possible story spoilers

 

[Leaf Wage Slave]

There is also the matter that all harbingers are massive walking spoilers. Childe happens early enough to not show much but making it obvious that endgame villains are playable can ruin or confuse the experience of newcomers. Honkai is particularly bad at this so i guess they want to avoid it in genshin.

Childe also worked because his character is less “Evil” more “Chaotic-Neutral Battle Junkie”, so him joining up with us is still in character for him.

That's to be expected. Scara was laughing histerically at how many people he got killed, he is 100% evil and there is no way he's playable without some heavy character development or plot induced brainwashing.

Dottore fans better get prepared for the worst too cause if he's ever playable then no fucking way it will be the guy who experiments on children, it will be a copy who did nothing wrong and might be teen or even female.

Don’t get me wrong, while I’d’ve loved to have Signora playable, I’ll readily admit it’s because I’m a degenerate weeb. I’ll own that. Her most likely being a Cryo Catalyst user would be icing on the (plentiful) cake, but considering the amount of character butchery they’d have to perform to justify it, I’m glad they decided to kill her off permanently. I’d rather have consistency.

Also inb4 the Scara that’s summonable is a blank slate and they pull a Raiden Shogun again…

And the only reason I’m not completely writing off the possibility of the Harbingers becoming Summonable - aside from Money - is that if they really felt like it, they could pull an Aloy again. Not as in “Free Character for Everyone” - again, Money - but as in “This character has the bare minimum for voice lines and Story”.

 

[ZMOT]

There is also the matter that all harbingers are massive walking spoilers. Childe happens early enough to not show much but making it obvious that endgame villains are playable can ruin or confuse the experience of newcomers. Honkai is particularly bad at this so i guess they want to avoid it in genshin.

not if done right. after childe people were creaming themselves over "can't wait till signora becomes playable!!11", then mihoyo just straight up yeeting her. when I played it I could literally FEEL the butthurt and tears, it was great.
ofc doesn't mean she won't come back in some form because plot, but at the same time means no harbinger is safe. I like it.

It seems like a lot of his fans have been obsessing over him for a year and a half and won't tolerate any deviation from the character they built up in their heads.

still don't get why. neither his design or MUH BAD GUY schtick is anything special, or fujo-baiting. is it the hat?

 

[Catgirls are Love]

not if done right. after childe people were creaming themselves over "can't wait till signora becomes playable!!11", then mihoyo just straight up yeeting her. when I played it I could literally FEEL the butthurt and tears, it was great.
ofc doesn't mean she won't come back in some form because plot, but at the same time means no harbinger is safe. I like it.


still don't get why. neither his design or MUH BAD GUY schtick is anything special, or fujo-baiting. is it the hat?

I don't really get the obsession over the character was was introduced as an obvious villian either (and also had absolutely zero story between version 1.1 and Inazuma). But for the rest of the harbingers, you will likely be able to immediately tell whether they're intended to be playable or not just by looking at their ingame models.

Spoiler

Do you get a distinctive and recognizable view of the character from behind (flowing hair/cape/clothing, easily identifiable profile, view of limbs)? If yes, they'll likely be playable at some point. If not, they're free for the chopping block (and probably on it). Signora just has that fucking huge-ass robe/cloak and you can't see shit other than that; not really an interesting view. The moment she was given that outfit, she was never intended to be controlled by the player as she's designed to be facing the camera. In all of the scenes she appears in, there's maybe one or two where she's not oriented towards the camera, and in those scenes the camera is low enough so you see only her legs IIRC.

I do feel like we should be creating Bingo cards of "Things the Genshin fandom has REEEEEEEd about". It's always amusing to watch the butthurt flow over fiction yet the morons continue to empty their wallets anyways.

 

[LucasSomething]

Childe also worked because his character is less “Evil” more “Chaotic-Neutral Battle Junkie”, so him joining up with us is still in character for him.


Don’t get me wrong, while I’d’ve loved to have Signora playable, I’ll readily admit it’s because I’m a degenerate weeb. I’ll own that. Her most likely being a Cryo Catalyst user would be icing on the (plentiful) cake, but considering the amount of character butchery they’d have to perform to justify it, I’m glad they decided to kill her off permanently. I’d rather have consistency.

Also inb4 the Scara that’s summonable is a blank slate and they pull a Raiden Shogun again…

And the only reason I’m not completely writing off the possibility of the Harbingers becoming Summonable - aside from Money - is that if they really felt like it, they could pull an Aloy again. Not as in “Free Character for Everyone” - again, Money - but as in “This character has the bare minimum for voice lines and Story”.

The devs portray Childe as a "hotblooded rival with a heart for his family" and ignore the part where he tried to destroy lyue. Signora didnt actually do a lot but she was a bitch so she had to go.

Raiden kinda cheats spoilers by having the playable version be the Shogun. Ei is the electro archon but during gameplay all the lines are from the puppet. You only ever find out they are two people when you finish Inazuma's and you unlock a few lines from Ei. This is very clever but also kinda fucks up her characterization. It feels like 99% of her fans treat the puppet as a flesh robot when she's actually her own person too.

not if done right. after childe people were creaming themselves over "can't wait till signora becomes playable!!11", then mihoyo just straight up yeeting her. when I played it I could literally FEEL the butthurt and tears, it was great.
ofc doesn't mean she won't come back in some form because plot, but at the same time means no harbinger is safe. I like it.

To be fair, those people were delusional. Signora was never ever implied to be playable since she has a unique larger model that was tagged as "monster". Her clothes were also too messy, if she was to be playable then it wouldnt be on that model. Scaramoche on the other hand always had the young man model and other than the hat he could work fine.

still don't get why. neither his design or MUH BAD GUY schtick is anything special, or fujo-baiting. is it the hat?

You're underestimating the power of his ~mysterious bad boy aura~ and the "I CAN CHANGE HIM!" fantasy. You make a skinny white boy say "So long, suckers!" and suddendly he has an army of insane fangirls who love him.

I don't really get the obsession over the character was was introduced as an obvious villian either (and also had absolutely zero story between version 1.1 and Inazuma). But for the rest of the harbingers, you will likely be able to immediately tell whether they're intended to be playable or not just by looking at their ingame models.

Spoiler

Do you get a distinctive and recognizable view of the character from behind (flowing hair/cape/clothing, easily identifiable profile, view of limbs)? If yes, they'll likely be playable at some point. If not, they're free for the chopping block (and probably on it). Signora just has that fucking huge-ass robe/cloak and you can't see shit other than that; not really an interesting view. The moment she was given that outfit, she was never intended to be controlled by the player as she's designed to be facing the camera. In all of the scenes she appears in, there's maybe one or two where she's not oriented towards the camera, and in those scenes the camera is low enough so you see only her legs IIRC.

I do feel like we should be creating Bingo cards of "Things the Genshin fandom has REEEEEEEd about". It's always amusing to watch the butthurt flow over fiction yet the morons continue to empty their wallets anyways.

Not just models but age and design. Of the 11 harbingers, Pierrot and Pulcinella are 2 old guys with beards so there is 0,00% chance they're playable. If Capitano takes off the helmet and doesnt look like a baby faced twink then he wont either.

 

[ZMOT]

I do feel like we should be creating Bingo cards of "Things the Genshin fandom has REEEEEEEd about". It's always amusing to watch the butthurt flow over fiction yet the morons continue to empty their wallets anyways.

still take that over ESO where people went full retard over a test server patch recently, at least in genshin that shit can easily be ignored.

Raiden kinda cheats spoilers by having the playable version be the Shogun. Ei is the electro archon but during gameplay all the lines are from the puppet. You only ever find out they are two people when you finish Inazuma's and you unlock a few lines from Ei. This is very clever but also kinda fucks up her characterization. It feels like 99% of her fans treat the puppet as a flesh robot when she's actually her own person too.

akshually her sister is the archon, they were just pulling another prestige. the puppet is just the state of ei back after her sister got killed with write protection enabled.

To be fair, those people were delusional. Signora was never ever implied to be playable since she has a unique larger model that was tagged as "monster". Her clothes were also too messy, if she was to be playable then it wouldnt be on that model. Scaramoche on the other hand always had the young man model and other than the hat he could work fine.

eh, that can all handwaved away, plenty of games do it this way, either because they never plan to go in that direction/it's cheaper and easier or sometimes misdirection.
it wouldn't really be difficult to give her a new "redeemed" outfit or whatever, since they'd have to depower anyway, like zhong (no more flattening areas with skyscraper stone spears), childe (no more dark tranformation), raiden (no more one hit KO) etc..

 

[Airihead]

Surfed here on highlights when i found the thread have some replies

Almost never had any issues with coop players.
I guess it helps that I'm not playing on America.

Burger server here I never have issue with coop on lvl 90 domains at least I'll typically let the team pick their characters first then decide to go healer bennet or diona if no one else did or put in my Razor or Raiden, or more recently Yelan

if you listen to Reddit, she's worthless without all that. I've read some sobering accounts of people realizing how easily they fell for "just one more swipe" to get what they want.

Reply from the future so may be irrelevant now but personally i think Raiden is great shes my B-Team carry with Xianling, Yelan(formerly Sayu), and Bennet

A-Team is Razor Xingqui Fischl and Diona btw

Boy do I hate getting frozen in this game.
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I hate Fatui Cryogunners with a flaming hot passion cool design tho

That's why I play through Floor 11, then stop and decide how much bullshit I feel like putting up with. If I get 6 of 9 stars on Floor 12 and don't feel like going for the perfect run, so be it.

I typically just go til I die and see where that got me in Primos and quit if the remaining primos aren't worth the headache I died against (usually riftwolves hate those fuckers)

>9GB update.
This game will murder my phone one day. I have like 60 GB left out of 128 GBs.

Reasons i play ps5 and if I didn't have that PS4 and the fact that my phone is never able to run games like this

To help balance the doomposting out a bit, there's reason to believe his personality is actually changing to be more harsh, not less

Spoiler: Possible story spoilers

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Very interesting

still don't get why. neither his design or MUH BAD GUY schtick is anything special, or fujo-baiting. is it the hat?

Speaking as a straight man I'm a sucker for the mysterious dickish little shit characters and the proto-archon reveal skyrocketed said interest
This appearance change leak has me very intrigued

Similar reasons I love Childe as a character I love me an Anti-Villain and I often love them even more when/if they turn Anti-Hero

Now by contrast speaking from a straight man perspective Arleccino(prolly spelled that wrong) triggers my monkey brain splendidly and I will die on copium that she'll be playable

on the topic of content creation what is the threads opinion of MurderOfBirds impact

Spoiler: MurderOfBirds praise

personally as Lorefag who loves the Morally grey nature of the story and lore of this game (but that love being outmatched by my laziness in not wanting to read about it through in-game books or internet wikis) he does read all that stuff to me and i can listen to it in like a podcast style at work and learn that way

He is a day 1 genshin player who only recently as of about a year now started editing and uploading his twitch vods in a lets play style format with a focus on characters/story/lore/theory crafting he has currently uploaded to his Eula trailer reactions

He has an uncanny knack for being spot on in his theory crafting to the point that he has a community in joke that he is a writer for Hoyoverse or that HV watches his streams and steals his ideas

In this vid he calls Albedos connection to Durin and the fact he is a homunculus early in the dragonspine release

 

[Skips]

I enjoyed this event dungeons. All of them being about a certain character's mind reminds me a lot to Psychonauts which I love

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

Surfed here on highlights when i found the thread have some replies

Burger server here I never have issue with coop on lvl 90 domains at least I'll typically let the team pick their characters first then decide to go healer bennet or diona if no one else did or put in my Razor or Raiden, or more recently Yelan

Reply from the future so may be irrelevant now but personally i think Raiden is great shes my B-Team carry with Xianling, Yelan(formerly Sayu), and Bennet

A-Team is Razor Xingqui Fischl and Diona btw

I hate Fatui Cryogunners with a flaming hot passion cool design tho

I typically just go til I die and see where that got me in Primos and quit if the remaining primos aren't worth the headache I died against (usually riftwolves hate those fuckers)

Reasons i play ps5 and if I didn't have that PS4 and the fact that my phone is never able to run games like this

Very interesting

Speaking as a straight man I'm a sucker for the mysterious dickish little shit characters and the proto-archon reveal skyrocketed said interest
This appearance change leak has me very intrigued

Similar reasons I love Childe as a character I love me an Anti-Villain and I often love them even more when/if they turn Anti-Hero

Now by contrast speaking from a straight man perspective Arleccino(prolly spelled that wrong) triggers my monkey brain splendidly and I will die on copium that she'll be playable

on the topic of content creation what is the threads opinion of MurderOfBirds impact

Spoiler: MurderOfBirds praise

personally as Lorefag who loves the Morally grey nature of the story and lore of this game (but that love being outmatched by my laziness in not wanting to read about it through in-game books or internet wikis) he does read all that stuff to me and i can listen to it in like a podcast style at work and learn that way

He is a day 1 genshin player who only recently as of about a year now started editing and uploading his twitch vods in a lets play style format with a focus on characters/story/lore/theory crafting he has currently uploaded to his Eula trailer reactions

He has an uncanny knack for being spot on in his theory crafting to the point that he has a community in joke that he is a writer for Hoyoverse or that HV watches his streams and steals his ideas

In this vid he calls Albedos connection to Durin and the fact he is a homunculus early in the dragonspine release

If you don't know, MoB is actually mentioned on the RWBY thread multiple times due to his shilling attitude & spedery when it comes to RWBY, until recently when I heard that he stopped shilling for RWBY & "admitted" to some issues... That some called out years ago.

 

[Airihead]

If you don't know, MoB is actually mentioned on the RWBY thread multiple times due to his shilling attitude & spedery when it comes to RWBY, until recently when I heard that he stopped shilling for RWBY & "admitted" to some issues... That some called out years ago.

Oh I know i was a fan of his main channel before he started the genshin one
I figured his other channel was irrelevant to the topic so I just wanted to talk about his genshin stuff but since you mentioned it

Again the lore sperging and theory crafting podcast 3 hour episode breakdown livestreams were and continue my shit and i loved it when he started doing it for RVB from the beginning of that series

As for criticism he does criticize he just doesn't overly focus on negative things that don't personally bug him different strokes

Im aware enjoying RWBY is a minority opinion here tho so i don't expect this to sway anyone

 

[The Bronze Golem]

Probably late to the game mentioning this, I'm sure several people have already sperged out about it ad nauseam, but how many people here would be interested in seeing some more masculine looking playable characters. I know, we already have Itto but, I'm sure many other people can relate, I found his design kinda disappointing.

He looked perfectly fine in the character and wish art, but in the actual game dude just looks like some Andy Milonakis dude who's really 40 but looks 20, with some kinda growth hormone disorder. Or like when a character who's normally massive is downsized to be playable, and has their hitboxes all fucked with, like in Garry's Mod. He also kinda had same face to me. I'd really like to see a proper playable masculine character.

And for those who will say, "It doesn't fit the art style" Wrong, just look at the Fatui Hammerman and Boxers. Yes, I know they're massive, so they cannot be playable. I get that. But, I really hope they make a character who's actually mature and muscular looking. Sort of an inbetween from Itto and the Big Fatuis.

They probably never will though, because so I've heard that masculine, muscular characters don't sell very well in Eastern Markets. Everyone just wants to see more femboys, twinks, and lolis (I was kinda annoyed when I saw the Sumeru Archon was just going to be another child character, she's also pale as fuck like what the hell, I was hoping for an Indian looking adult lady with the Eula bodyshape)

 

[Kotol]

Probably late to the game mentioning this, I'm sure several people have already sperged out about it ad nauseam, but how many people here would be interested in seeing some more masculine looking playable characters. I know, we already have Itto but, I'm sure many other people can relate, I found his design kinda disappointing.

He looked perfectly fine in the character and wish art, but in the actual game dude just looks like some Andy Milonakis dude who's really 40 but looks 20, with some kinda growth hormone disorder. Or like when a character who's normally massive is downsized to be playable, and has their hitboxes all fucked with, like in Garry's Mod. He also kinda had same face to me. I'd really like to see a proper playable masculine character.

And for those who will say, "It doesn't fit the art style" Wrong, just look at the Fatui Hammerman and Boxers. Yes, I know they're massive, so they cannot be playable. I get that. But, I really hope they make a character who's actually mature and muscular looking. Sort of an inbetween from Itto and the Big Fatuis.

They probably never will though, because so I've heard that masculine, muscular characters don't sell very well in Eastern Markets. Everyone just wants to see more femboys, twinks, and lolis (I was kinda annoyed when I saw the Sumeru Archon was just going to be another child character, she's also pale as fuck like what the hell, I was hoping for an Indian looking adult lady with the Eula bodyshape)

I would love to have male characters with the build of Cyrus (the Mondstadt guy with a monocle from the adventurer's guild) or the treasure hunter boxing enemies.

The current body types boil down to:
- smol female
- normal female
- tall and thin female
- normal male
- tall and thin male

I would like a tall and burly male body type, but eh...idk if body variety is on Mihoyo's current priority list. But man I would love to have a strong male character, and yes, I would actually like it if he wasn't reasonably attractive. I wanna play a stereotypical knight dude from Mondstadt with a heavy armor, a standard ugly old bastard face and a two handed sword. That would be the tits. Bonus points if he has a some story with Noelle (best girl).

 

[真理子]

Probably late to the game mentioning this, I'm sure several people have already sperged out about it ad nauseam, but how many people here would be interested in seeing some more masculine looking playable characters. I know, we already have Itto but, I'm sure many other people can relate, I found his design kinda disappointing.

He looked perfectly fine in the character and wish art, but in the actual game dude just looks like some Andy Milonakis dude who's really 40 but looks 20, with some kinda growth hormone disorder. Or like when a character who's normally massive is downsized to be playable, and has their hitboxes all fucked with, like in Garry's Mod. He also kinda had same face to me. I'd really like to see a proper playable masculine character.

And for those who will say, "It doesn't fit the art style" Wrong, just look at the Fatui Hammerman and Boxers. Yes, I know they're massive, so they cannot be playable. I get that. But, I really hope they make a character who's actually mature and muscular looking. Sort of an inbetween from Itto and the Big Fatuis.

They probably never will though, because so I've heard that masculine, muscular characters don't sell very well in Eastern Markets. Everyone just wants to see more femboys, twinks, and lolis (I was kinda annoyed when I saw the Sumeru Archon was just going to be another child character, she's also pale as fuck like what the hell, I was hoping for an Indian looking adult lady with the Eula bodyshape)

I would love to have male characters with the build of Cyrus (the Mondstadt guy with a monocle from the adventurer's guild) or the treasure hunter boxing enemies.

The current body types boil down to:
- smol female
- normal female
- tall and thin female
- normal male
- tall and thin male

I would like a tall and burly male body type, but eh...idk if body variety is on Mihoyo's current priority list. But man I would love to have a strong male character, and yes, I would actually like it if he wasn't reasonably attractive. I wanna play a stereotypical knight dude from Mondstadt with a heavy armor, a standard ugly old bastard face and a two handed sword. That would be the tits. Bonus points if he has a some story with Noelle (best girl).

IMO the closest muscular character we'll possibly get in the game is Varka, the current grandmaster in mondstadt who went on an expedition before the events of the game. He's described as one of the strongest people in mondstadt and holds back when sparring with other characters. Also that he's pretty tall and likely uses a claymore since he taught Razor how to use one. Everything about him screams big strong knight man. I'm really hoping they don't turn him into a bishounen pretty boy or give him the shitty Itto treatment.

 

[The Bronze Golem]

I wanna play a stereotypical knight dude from Mondstadt with a heavy armor, a standard ugly old bastard face and a two handed sword. That would be the tits. Bonus points if he has a some story with Noelle (best girl).

This is exactly what I want. I'm so tired of the prettyboys, hot girls, and weirdo children

 

[ZMOT]

IMO the closest muscular character we'll possibly get in the game is Varka, the current grandmaster in mondstadt who went on an expedition before the events of the game. He's described as one of the strongest people in mondstadt and holds back when sparring with other characters. Also that he's pretty tall and likely uses a claymore since he taught Razor how to use one. Everything about him screams big strong knight man. I'm really hoping they don't turn him into a bishounen pretty boy or give him the shitty Itto treatment.

they probably either skip him completely or have him be a NPC, depending where ended up in the story and if he survived. if they make him playable and he's another twink I hope they are aware that everyone will shit on them.

wasn't there another pal of itto described as big and buff, or am I confusing him with itto?

 

[Shart Attack]

Personally I'd love to see an old, shriveled up martial arts master like Master Roshi as a playable character. Of course that won't bring in the whale money, so it's never going to happen.

Finishing up the current event really drives home how much of this game's content is locked behind time limited events. I've really enjoyed this event, and it's clear a fair amount of time and effort went into it. Once the event time limit is up, it's gone for good, and new players go back to having no idea who Fischl or Xinyan are even if they pull them enough times to C6 them. Say a new player joins the day after this event ends. They missed the original Falling Stars event, they missed the Xinyan/Childe event, and they missed this event. They get one short character quest with Mona, but other than that they never meet any of these characters until they run into Kazuya on the way to Inazuma. God forbid they roll out a hangout event or two for these characters (or Lisa/Kaeya/Amber), those apparently take way too much effort despite how low effort they seem.

I get that I'm one of the few people who enjoys this game for its silly anime storyline. The whales only care about seeing big numbers in Abyss floor 12, and the whales are the ones keeping the lights on at Mihoyo. I get it. I guess I just don't see why they can't make big events like this permanently available as character quests after they end, just with stripped down rewards/no event shop.

 

[Dollar Store Sentai]

Give us our sexy bear men Mihoyo! We're tired of Loli's, scantily clad nymphos lusting after us and waifish bros