The Bronze Golem
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- Jul 23, 2022
I originally posted in the "Mega Rad Gun thread" before someone referred me to here. I asked the admins to repost all my stuff here, but it was ignored, so I'll start with a summary of what I basically said. If you are so inclined you can look at what I and other people have discussed there, but it's rather long so I won't blame you if you don't.
I'll start by saying, I don't want to ban guns, or repeal that second amendment. I am vehemently against that idea, and I think the very concept of that is ridiculous, insane, morally wrong, and impractical. I used to be someone who was a 2nd amendment absolutist, as in, I think all gun control is bad no matter what. As I've gotten older however, my opinions on the matter have matured.
Now, I'll start off by saying I am someone who strongly believes in personal protection, home defense, and use of lethal force against attackers and invaders. I strongly dislike how in many jurisdictions and states, handguns are only available with permit systems or requiring to be 21 years old. I find that wrong. I think if someone is at the age of majority, they should have a right to defend themselves. Absolutely. California and New York are prime examples of having these horrible laws. They also have many inane laws that target things based on cosmetic appearance.
With that being said, I have to come out on a limb here and say, that I firmly believe nobody needs an AR-15 or any other intermediate caliber Semi-Automatic Rifle to defend themselves or their home. A handgun is superior overall for personal protection because of it's ability to be concealed, and is superior for home defense too because it is easier to maneuver in tight spaces, less likely to be grappled onto by an attacker, and the pistol rounds are less likely to blow your eardrums out, while still being highly efficient for close range defensive purposes.
Semi-Automatic, intermediate caliber rifles like AR-15s, are also sufficient at self defense, but the 5.56, 7.62x39 and ETC rounds are designed for decent lethality while still having high controllability in sustained fire. They also come with standard 30 round magazines, and in my opinion 30 round magazines are ridiculous and unnecessary. 10 rounds is perfectly sufficient for self defense. Having that many rounds means a mass shooter can get off more shots before needing to reload, which sorry, is a massive factor in these mass shooter events. All these shooters have the same thing in common. They buy civilian versions of common service rifles. They want to larp as soldiers, use their weapons and dress up like them. I think that is a very pathetic and dangerous mindset many gun owners have, and is common in these shooters. Not only are these weapons effective for mass killing, they are aesthetically and culturally lending themselves to that.
Every time a shooter used an AR-15, or AK-47 as opposed to a shotgun, bolt action rifle, or handgun, the rate of lethality and efficiency was far greater. People can argue "Oh it's so we can protect ourselves against the government" Those days are over, the government has armored infantry, rapid deployment, fighter jets, missile systems. What the fuck are a couple million people with Semi-Automatic AR-15s going to do? They literally serve zero purpose in civilian society.
Nobody in that Mega Rad Gun thread successfully rebuked any of this, they just mocked me or gave me arbitrary data to defect what I was saying onto something else.
Can anyone here can rebuke some of my points, I'd love to hear it.
I'll start by saying, I don't want to ban guns, or repeal that second amendment. I am vehemently against that idea, and I think the very concept of that is ridiculous, insane, morally wrong, and impractical. I used to be someone who was a 2nd amendment absolutist, as in, I think all gun control is bad no matter what. As I've gotten older however, my opinions on the matter have matured.
Now, I'll start off by saying I am someone who strongly believes in personal protection, home defense, and use of lethal force against attackers and invaders. I strongly dislike how in many jurisdictions and states, handguns are only available with permit systems or requiring to be 21 years old. I find that wrong. I think if someone is at the age of majority, they should have a right to defend themselves. Absolutely. California and New York are prime examples of having these horrible laws. They also have many inane laws that target things based on cosmetic appearance.
With that being said, I have to come out on a limb here and say, that I firmly believe nobody needs an AR-15 or any other intermediate caliber Semi-Automatic Rifle to defend themselves or their home. A handgun is superior overall for personal protection because of it's ability to be concealed, and is superior for home defense too because it is easier to maneuver in tight spaces, less likely to be grappled onto by an attacker, and the pistol rounds are less likely to blow your eardrums out, while still being highly efficient for close range defensive purposes.
Semi-Automatic, intermediate caliber rifles like AR-15s, are also sufficient at self defense, but the 5.56, 7.62x39 and ETC rounds are designed for decent lethality while still having high controllability in sustained fire. They also come with standard 30 round magazines, and in my opinion 30 round magazines are ridiculous and unnecessary. 10 rounds is perfectly sufficient for self defense. Having that many rounds means a mass shooter can get off more shots before needing to reload, which sorry, is a massive factor in these mass shooter events. All these shooters have the same thing in common. They buy civilian versions of common service rifles. They want to larp as soldiers, use their weapons and dress up like them. I think that is a very pathetic and dangerous mindset many gun owners have, and is common in these shooters. Not only are these weapons effective for mass killing, they are aesthetically and culturally lending themselves to that.
Every time a shooter used an AR-15, or AK-47 as opposed to a shotgun, bolt action rifle, or handgun, the rate of lethality and efficiency was far greater. People can argue "Oh it's so we can protect ourselves against the government" Those days are over, the government has armored infantry, rapid deployment, fighter jets, missile systems. What the fuck are a couple million people with Semi-Automatic AR-15s going to do? They literally serve zero purpose in civilian society.
Nobody in that Mega Rad Gun thread successfully rebuked any of this, they just mocked me or gave me arbitrary data to defect what I was saying onto something else.
Can anyone here can rebuke some of my points, I'd love to hear it.
