Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

Favorite GTA?

  • Grand Theft Auto

    Votes: 61 2.4%
  • Grand Theft Auto: London 1969

    Votes: 54 2.1%
  • Grand Theft Auto 2

    Votes: 106 4.1%
  • Grand Theft Auto III

    Votes: 203 7.9%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

    Votes: 734 28.6%
  • Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

    Votes: 1,032 40.3%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Advanced

    Votes: 12 0.5%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories

    Votes: 74 2.9%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories

    Votes: 73 2.8%
  • Grand Theft Auto IV

    Votes: 654 25.5%
  • Episodes From Liberty City (The Lost & Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony)

    Votes: 198 7.7%
  • Grand Theft Auto V

    Votes: 371 14.5%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Online

    Votes: 91 3.6%
  • My Mother's My Sister!

    Votes: 305 11.9%

  • Total voters
    2,562
With so much of the writing talent gone, I'm expecting this female protagonist to be Rockstar overcompensating for their "failures" in V. Just the idea of them "not wanting to punch down" makes me think GTA VI will be more toothless than past entries, but what can I expect from the same timeline where Saints Row of all things has become sanitized nonsense?

I'd like to be proven wrong, but the way most female protagonists have been made this past decade doesn't give me much hope.
 
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Yep, this is going to be a complete and utter disaster.

Can't wait.
 
The woman, who is Latina, will be one of a pair of leading characters in a story influenced by the bank robbers Bonnie and Clyde, the people said. Developers are also being cautious not to “punch down” by making jokes about marginalized groups, the people said, in contrast to previous games.
There you go. The Marvelisation of GTA. Easy targets, easy jokes, never an ounce of seriousness in regards to the story. Satire without bite. I can't wait for the scene where the Latinx kills an Elon Musk/Trump/Incel stand-in and proceeds to stand on a pulpit and talk about how rape culture causes her to kill.

I would happily have a female protag, but I don't want two playable characters. Three was too many last time. And as Vault Boy points out, the last decade has been overcompensation in terms of female leads made solely because they need a female lead to appease the people who don't buy their game and they never work because of it.

Also, updating the game to add maps overtime? Fuck me. When did this tripe turn into industry standard?

I'll play Vice City and IV thanks.
 
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This just makes me sad. I'm used to franchises I once loved being destroyed by the preachy, self-righteous and tone-deaf zeitgeist of current times, but it hurts more to see it happen to Grand Theft Auto, in which a major part of these games are to satirize the contemporary theme of the times.

It's like resurrecting George Carlin and having him dressed in rainbow colours and crying "Trans rights!" at every available opportunity. There's that extra level of hurt to it because they used to bite back at this kind of thing.
 
I know they're British and all, but it still is a shock to see Rockstar become so pozzed. Hoping the leaks are bullshit but what a joke if they're true, it'll have been over a decade of waiting for a massive disappointment. Oh well, I still have all my copies of the 3D games and IV, and there's plenty of mods.
 
If this is true, I definitely think it nails GTA VI down to a US location, and gives a boost to the Vice City concept.

I think the launch will be troubled, my guess is that a lot of these changes must have occurred once Houser was out and if the rumors of the GTA VI development reset post-Houser are true.
 
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With so much of the writing talent gone, I'm expecting this female protagonist to be Rockstar overcompensating for their "failures" in V. Just the idea of them "not wanting to punch down" makes me think GTA VI will be more toothless than past entries, but what can I expect from the same timeline where Saints Row of all things has become sanitized nonsense?

I'd like to be proven wrong, but the way most female protagonists have been made this past decade doesn't give me much hope.
Evidently, this Latina protagonist is inspired by Bonnie and Clyde.
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Yep, this is going to be a complete and utter disaster.

Can't wait.
I guess this seemingly confirms the removal of Cops n' Crooks after George Floyd. Thanks. That was actually one of my favorite game modes in IV.

If true, goodbye, open world crime genre. You will be missed.
 
The woman, who is Latina, will be one of a pair of leading characters in a story influenced by the bank robbers Bonnie and Clyde, the people said. Developers are also being cautious not to “punch down” by making jokes about marginalized groups, the people said, in contrast to previous games.
so everyone is losing they mind because they rehashing catalina? the bonnie and clyde thing been a thing since gta 3, and was most biggest in san andreas which is supposed to be the greatest gta of them all.

and rockstar aint been punchin down on marginalized groups since vice city. san andreas ditched the goofy accents and one liners for more serious take on gang bangers.

and they especially havent punched down since gta 4. the comedy from then on has firmly been in the "shit on the usa" territory, with most of it being targeted at whites. the most "offensive" thing they done to a minority group since then was hide some trannies in a public restroom in mirror park that none even realized were there until got rid of em

this a lot of pr speak for the same boring shit we been getting from rockstar for 15 years now. i dont know why people thot wed be going back to gta iii style with this game.

If true, goodbye, open world crime genre. You will be missed.
you are a watch dogs 2 fan i doubt this will be the thing that ruins the genre for you
 
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so everyone is losing they mind because they rehashing catalina? the bonnie and clyde thing been a thing since gta 3, and was most biggest in san andreas which is supposed to be the greatest gta of them all.
I WANT a female protagonist for this genre. The issue is that nobody knows how to write proper female characters in this political climate.

you are a watch dogs 2 fan i doubt this will be the thing that ruins the genre for you
I like one game, that means my opinion on this means nil. Okay.
 
I like one game, that means my opinion on this means nil. Okay.
thats not what i said at all. you can enjoy a game for things other than its story. the problem with saints row isnt that its woke, its that its the same old mediocre shit gameplay while being woke.

you found a way to enjoy watch dogs 2 despite its woke garbage narrative. i think its premature for you to declare the genre dead just because we might get another mediocre gta story that shits on the usa. what if the actual gameplay is fun as hell? its like nobody even considers that anymore.

then again, maybe that makes sense because gamers and developers spent the better part of 15 years pushing storyline and cinematic bullshit in a medium that should have been about having good gameplay and being fun first and foremost.

guess we will see when the game actually comes out or they release a trailer or actually do something instead of just letting everyone and their mother throw out leaks about how awful the game will be. im just so sick of the worrying over numerous leaks and rumors at this point. its exhausting especially since half this shit everyone is getting worried about is shit thats been in gta for a while now.
 
Also, updating the game to add maps overtime? Fuck me. When did this tripe turn into industry standard?
The battle royale genre, most likely. See Fortnite and Warzone. I don't get why games have to continuously "evolve" as live services, especially single player games. Just build an open world, expand on it via expansion packs and DLC.

you found a way to enjoy watch dogs 2 despite its woke garbage narrative. i think its premature for you to declare the genre dead just because we might get another mediocre gta story that shits on the usa. what if the actual gameplay is fun as hell? its like nobody even considers that anymore.
Typically, the story and gameplay go hand in hand. It's actually one of my complaints about Watch Dogs 2: its tone and plot clash with its open world gameplay. I believe that is called ludonarrative dissonance. WD2's protagonist is part of this hacktivist group determine to expose ctOS. Yet, you are able to achieve that through violent weaponry.

Actually, I touch on this with this earlier post in this same thread. The cultural direction R* is going with GTA is not going to gel well, especially given its past history of pushing technological and social boundaries with its tongue in cheek writing.
 
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