Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Facial masculinization surgery is much easier as you're just adding things like fillers, implants here and there and possibly sliding genioplasty on the jaw. You still have female orbital sockets but thats alot closer than troons. For females wanting to become males their issue is dick construction.
This doesn’t even need to be an issue, at least FtMs have access to strap-ons which are safe and can pleasure both parties. MtFs don’t really have something that at all, getting fucked in the ass is even more of a reminder that they are a man.

The FtMs who get phalloplasty are just plain dumb. Let me flay my own fucking flesh to the bone and roll it into a sausage, and attach it to my pussy! Genius! Absolutely nothing could go wrong.

Stone head me, idc, but I don't get how anyone can read this thread and think "yes this will not have a cumulative detrimental effect on the society in which we live, as dick-lopping is normalized and the dickless write kindergarten curriculum and enter the Whitehouse and military and mental health services unravel.... so long as they pay for it out of pocket!"
Oh, they won’t be doing any of that after getting their dick filleted. They’ll be bedridden and thinking of the noose 24/7, needn’t you worry.
 
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Floating sausage in water 2022.
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They are likely only saggy because of the breast binders. :( Those will turn anyone’s titties into saggy granny tits.
I think they can get extremely saggy from obesity alone, which affects most of these girls. It's gravity working against them.
I’ve seen so many posts where FTMs talk about all sorts of binding damage. Everything from permanently injured ribs to lung injuries that you can see on an X-ray.
Haha, retards.
Floating sausage in water 2022.
I hope a really strong current takes her "dick" away and a scavenger eats it.
 
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I mean....it's not as bad as some we've seen. It'll probably still rot off at some point.

Some troon on a Discord server I'm in was whining that sHE was crying all day because her voice isn't masculine enough. Ugh.
It still has that uncanny valley dick-look to it, where you’re not sure if someone photoshopped a picture of a dildo onto somebody’s body.

The bend also has potential for hilarity down the road.

Someone explain this troon that dicks dont float around like that unless you're dead

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Yeah, I was about to say WTF was that?!?

Also hilarious potential for skin/tissue damage down the road. There is a reason why your penis does things like get smaller and retreat when exposed to water and cold temperature.


Then again, this is arm skin not nearly as sensitive as a real dick so who knows.

Between FFS and HRT I'm pretty well convinced you could do all kinds of "procedures" where you just knock them out and leave for a while and hand out placebos and troons would post all sorts of shit about how great your work was and how much better they feel.

You mean like this one?

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I guess the lighting being different is the most obvious difference.

We’re already living in clownworld, so if a doc charges some idiot 15.000$, puts them under and then play hearthstone or whatever for 45 minutes with the rest of the “operating staff” (since it’s logged when they wheel them in and out) then more power to them!

Get a hammer and bash their face a few times to make some believable bruises, wrap that head with gauze, and presto! Another happy customer!
 
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RIP Titties. You will be missed. Even the saggy ones.
IKR? That looks like a memorial wall more than it does a celebration into Ma'anhood. What makes it sadder is the reality that this isn't a breast cancer survivor group.

Uncanny valley as fuck to see big ol bellies with almost caved in upper chests.
Concave chests are due to the difference in pectorals from men, and women not really needing them because... boobs.
 
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Who the fuck is this doctor? He literally just said "Yeah yeah shut up retard they'll grow back" to his concerned patient after he CUT HER NIPPLES OFF??! So if I cut his index fingers and thumbs off it'll be ok and I can't get in trouble cuz it's the year 2022 and body parts spontaneously regenerate now apparently. Are you fucking kidding me?
Women are already gaslit to the highest degree when it comes to Healthcare (any woman in this thread who has had a baby could probably tell you a story or two), this schmuck found the perfect intersection to achieve maximum scumfuck medical scammery... gaslighting female children.
I'm so angry. Give me tophats and puzzle pieces. I want to show this to everyone who screeches about trans kids and LIFE SAVING HEALTHCARE.
YOU ARE BEING LIED TO AND TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY THE SLOPPIEST MOST UNSCRUPULOUS BUTCHERS YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE. THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTERS AND SONS, YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN DOLLAR SIGNS TO THEM.
 
Who the fuck is this doctor? He literally just said "Yeah yeah shut up retard they'll grow back" to his concerned patient after he CUT HER NIPPLES OFF??! So if I cut his index fingers and thumbs off it'll be ok and I can't get in trouble cuz it's the year 2022 and body parts spontaneously regenerate now apparently. Are you fucking kidding me?
Women are already gaslit to the highest degree when it comes to Healthcare (any woman in this thread who has had a baby could probably tell you a story or two), this schmuck found the perfect intersection to achieve maximum scumfuck medical scammery... gaslighting female children.
I'm so angry. Give me tophats and puzzle pieces. I want to show this to everyone who screeches about trans kids and LIFE SAVING HEALTHCARE.
YOU ARE BEING LIED TO AND TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY THE SLOPPIEST MOST UNSCRUPULOUS BUTCHERS YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE. THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTERS AND SONS, YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN DOLLAR SIGNS TO THEM.
Your body parts can’t regenerate? Maybe you should try hardwr
 
What do we think transphobes, cope? A win for trannies? My take-away is that the objective numbers are lackluster but the subjective questions report that the troons will coom no matter what.

Link
http://archive.md/6ziV2

LMAO!

So they sent out 100 emails, around 30 replied and NINETEEN went on to answer the complete survey?

(And we’re quite satisfied with their sexual function!)

Gee, I wonder what the other 81 trannies would have answered, and why they didn’t feel like participating?

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Yeah, I was about to say WTF was that?!?

Also hilarious potential for skin/tissue damage down the road. There is a reason why your penis does things like get smaller and retreat when exposed to water and cold temperature.


Then again, this is arm skin not nearly as sensitive as a real dick so who knows.



You mean like this one?

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I guess the lighting being different is the most obvious difference.

We’re already living in clownworld, so if a doc charges some idiot 15.000$, puts them under and then play hearthstone or whatever for 45 minutes with the rest of the “operating staff” (since it’s logged when they wheel them in and out) then more power to them!

Get a hammer and bash their face a few times to make some believable bruises, wrap that head with gauze, and presto! Another happy customer!
If anything, FFS made his Adam's apple worse. Dude looks like he swallowed a right angle.
 
Finally some GOOD NEWS.

Tavistock Gender Identity Clinic
(UK) for children and young people SHUT DOWN after being found to be unsafe for kids. Terf Island journos finally do their job and published an investigation revealing how poorly kids were treated. There was little evidence supporting the need to transition kids, and now they gotta pay the price.
I can now proudly say "Oy vey! Shut it down!"

BBC news article:
The NHS is to close the UK's only dedicated gender identity clinic for children and young people.
Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust has been told to shut the clinic by spring after it was criticised in an independent review.
Instead, new regional centres will be set up to "ensure the holistic needs" of patients are fully met, the NHS said.
The trust said it supported plans for a new model due to a rise in referrals.
The changes will take place after an independent review, led by Dr Hilary Cass, said the Tavistock clinic needed to be transformed.
She said the current model of care was leaving young people "at considerable risk" of poor mental health and distress, and having one clinic was not "a safe or viable long-term option".
The new centres - one based in London and the other in the north west of England - should be fully open in spring 2023 and would run in conjunction with leading children's hospitals, including Great Ormond Street and Alder Hey.
They will aim to help support young people under the age of 18 who are struggling with their gender identity, and be linked to mental health care and GP services where relevant.
There will be no immediate changes for people already under the Tavistock's care.
Keira Bell, who brought a High Court case against Tavistock challenging its use of puberty blockers, said she was pleased it was closing, adding: "Many children will be saved from going down the path that I went down."
LGBT rights group Stonewall said it was pleased the NHS was addressing "unacceptable" waiting times faced by young trans people trying to access gender-identity healthcare.
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Analysis box by Alison Holt, social affairs editor

The Tavistock has faced increasing pressure in recent years.
There were rising referrals and a long waiting list but at the same time some former staff were raising concerns about the way it operated.
Then, former patient Keira Bell went to court saying she had not been challenged enough about her decision at 16 to take drugs that began her transition from female to male - a decision she later regretted.
Earlier this year, Dr Cass's report said there was a lack of understanding about why the type of patients the clinic was seeing was changing, with more female to male patients and more autistic children. Dr Cass also highlighted inconclusive evidence to back some of the clinical decision making.
The clinic's imminent closure will be a source of worry for other young people wanting support with gender dysphoria. The hope is the services that replace it will be more helpful, useful and efficient.
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The Tavistock clinic, named the Gender and Identity Development Service (GIDS), was launched in 1989 to help people aged 17 and under struggling with their gender identity.
But in 2020, questions about the service were raised after it was rated "inadequate" by inspectors, following concerns raised by whistleblowers and reported by BBC Newsnight.
The Cass review was commissioned in September 2020 amid the rise in demand, long waiting times for assessments and "significant external scrutiny" around GIDS' approach and capacity, the NHS said.
In an interim report earlier this year, Dr Cass said:
  • The service was struggling to deal with spiralling waiting lists
  • It was not keeping "routine and consistent" data on its patients
  • Health staff felt under pressure to adopt an "unquestioning affirmative approach"
  • Once patients are identified as having gender-related distress, other healthcare issues they had, such as being neurodivergent, "can sometimes be overlooked"
She then suggested introducing local hubs, writing that the current provider model "is not a safe or viable long-term option".
The number of people seeking the clinic's help is 20 times higher than it was a decade ago, jumping from 250 to 5,000 referrals in 2021, according to the service's statistics.
This means the average person waits two years before they are seen by a specialist.
The mother of a former Tavistock patient, who is not being named by the BBC, said there are "clear difficulties" in having one clinic to treat trans and gender-questioning people across the UK.
While her son "received excellent service from Tavistock," she said having one clinic to serve England and Wales has been failing children and their families.
She said: "It was a two-hour journey to the clinic each way, and that was easy for us. People are travelling from all over the UK for appointments, which is incredibly costly and time consuming.
"Having regional and local services that are integrated and accessible has got to be a better thing."
In the case of Keira Bell. now aged 25, she was prescribed puberty blockers aged 16, then received testosterone shots a year later, and aged 20 had a double mastectomy.
She later changed her mind over her decision to transition to male. She argued the clinic should have challenged her more over her decision to transition.
Puberty blockers, which can be used to put a pause on puberty while a young person thinks about their gender identity, were first introduced into transgender care by specialists in the Netherlands in 1988.
In Ms Bell's case, the High Court ruled under-16s lacked capacity to give informed consent to the treatment. This was later overturned by the Court of Appeal which ruled doctors could judge if under-16s could give informed consent to puberty blocker use.
Ms Bell told BBC Radio 4 World at One: "I went through a lot of distress as a teenager. Really I just needed some mental health support and therapy from everything that I've been through. There needs to be mental health support first and foremost."
Keira Bell

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Keira Bell, a former Tavistock patient, said there needs to be more mental health support for young trans and gender-questioning people
Dr David Bell - not related to Keira Bell - is a former consultant psychiatrist at the Tavistock NHS Foundation Trust, where he raised concerns. He said it was a "good thing" the service was closing down.
Proper funding was needed for mental health services for children and adolescents, he said.
He told the BBC: "Some children have got the double problem of living with the wrong treatment, and the original problems weren't addressed - with complex problems like trauma, depression, large instances of autism."
A Stonewall spokesperson said: "The creation of new specialist regional centres in London and Manchester next year, with more to follow, will go some way to addressing the strain experienced by having just a single, centralised service."
A spokesperson for the Tavistock said its staff had "worked tirelessly and under intense scrutiny in a difficult climate".
They added: "We are proud of them and thankful for their unrelenting patient focus and extraordinary efforts."
Dr Cass's review is ongoing, with her final report expected in 2023.

Tldr; getting shut down for:
  • Not keeping proper records on patients (ie tracking detrans rates)
  • Staff always pressured to affirm new identity
  • Little examination done on a child's existing mental health conditions (such as Autism or body dysmorphia).
  • Waiting lists too long (Based, gives em time to grow out of it).
  • Some parents seemed to want straight trans kids instead of gnc gay kids (see Iran / Thailand for more details)
Features a cameo from based groomer suer Kiera Bell who states the obvious (that kids are dumb and giving them life altering surgery on whim is bad).

Sky news article:
The NHS is shutting down its gender identity clinic for children and young people at the Tavistock & Portman NHS Foundation Trust to build a "more resilient service" by expanding provision.

The NHS said on Thursday the contract for the gender identity service at the Trust will be brought to a close, and it will instead create two services led by specialist children's hospitals in London and the North West by spring 2023.


The final number is yet to be decided, but seven or eight services could be put in place.

It follows recommendations from Dr Hilary Cass, who is leading an independent review into gender identity services for children and young people.

She said there was a need to move away from a model of a sole provider, and instead establish regional services to better meet patients' needs.

The Trust, which runs clinics in London, Leeds and Bristol, is believed to give hormone treatment to around 200 of the thousands of children it sees each year.

Referrals have risen sharply in the last decade, with more than 5,000 in 2021-22, compared with less than 250 in 2011-12.

In March, an interim report of the Cass Review, commissioned by NHS England in 2020, was released.

In it, Dr Cass wrote: "It has become increasingly clear that a single specialist provider model is not a safe or viable long-term option, in view of concerns about lack of peer review and the ability to respond to the increasing demand."

It warned that many of those being referred have complex needs but that, once they are identified as having gender-related distress, other healthcare issues "can sometimes be overlooked".

It also said some health staff feel under pressure to adopt an "unquestioning affirmative approach", and recommended they remain open and explore the patient's experience and options.

One London-based service will be led by Great Ormond Street Hospital and Evelina London Children's Hospital, with South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust providing specialist mental health support.

A second service in the North West will be led by Alder Hey Children's NHS Foundation Trust and the Royal Manchester Children's Hospital, with both trusts providing specialist mental health services.

These will take over clinical responsibility for and management of all GIDS patients - including those on the waiting list.

A spokeswoman for the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) at the Tavistock & Portman NHS Foundation Trust said: "The Trust supports the need to establish a more sustainable model for the care of this group of patients given the marked growth in referrals.

"The expertise that resides within the current GIDS service will be critical to the successful formation of these early adopter services and providing continuity in patient care.

"We will work closely with partners and commissioners to ensure a smooth transition to the new model of delivery.

"Over the last couple of years, our staff in GIDS have worked tirelessly and under intense scrutiny in a difficult climate.

"We are proud of them and thankful for their unrelenting patient focus and extraordinary efforts."

Former equalities minister and Tory leadership contender Kemi Badenoch described the decision as "profound".

She tweeted of having heard "personal testimonies of destroyed childhoods, protecting whistleblowing clinicians from endless harassment by twitter activists".

Ms Badenoch said women who had "serious concerns" had suffered "smearing [...] as terfs and bigots".

TERF refers to trans-exclusionary radical feminist, said to be a feminist who excludes the rights of transgender women from their support of women's rights.

Sadly, others will be built to replace it, but the fact that there are actual consequences for the groomers and butchers who work there is fantastic and a big first step in the road to protecting vulnerable kids.

These new locations will hopefully face greater levels of scrutiny from day 1. Either that or trans activists will step up their anti-safeguarding campaigns. And lord knows they'll try.

But yeah. It's nice to see a win on this thread where people lose so much. With any luck, the next generation might be spared this fate.
 
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