Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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batteredpancakes said:
TiF tries to get phallo surgery. Donor skin starts to immediately die upon resection due to her shitty blood flow. TiF is now stuck in hospital awaiting another surgery.
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If it's the hospital I think it is, the troon surgery program shares OR space, floor space, and nursing staff with the organ transplantation program. So this bitch is whining about how they can't squeeze her into the OR between lifesaving liver and kidney procedures.
 
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Sissyagamben said:
We are too desensitized… “you should just cut off your dick and balls, the inner parts of your penis that we can’t remove will act as a fake clit, and we can create some scar tissue or whatever on your taint to make it look like a human vagina from 100 feet away in the eyes of an alien” is actually somewhat solid advice for the retards we discuss here. Now imagine saying that to a normal man, he will probably want to bash your head in the wall

Edit to add: I imagine in this case the mtf could still have anal sex? Can’t say that for the most post op trannies
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Any fussing a surgeon does with a cocksleeve or colon canal immediately raises the possibility of a fistula. With a canal, any repeated trauma in the form of dilating or sexual intercourse would also raise that risk; mostly because it’s not supposed to be there. No canal, I would assume no fistula. Could be wrong though.

Edit: typo
 
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Went to this troon’s-
behindyourightnow said:
I think most gender surgeons won't operate with a BMI over 35. I know this because the MtF who wrote the revenge-fantasy novel about killing TERFs complains about it.

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They always ban this on "fatphobia" rather than the tendency of very fat people to die on the table, of course. Once you're invested in one type of biology denial it is easier to pick up another, I suppose.



The way you phrased it there made me think of her just exploding into a thick cloud of spores one day.
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twitter, to see how fat is too fat (cos idk about BMI numbers)
And, woudlnt you know it, there is ONE picture of the actual Troon uploaded only an hour ago!

Fair fucks. That’s too fat.

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Also clean your nails. Poor Theyby :(
 
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ohforfoxache said:
I'm still flabbergasted that FtM troons submit to the flaying of their arms/legs to create their fleshtube. It looks absolutely ghastly.

Medfags or anybody who knows these procedures, why don't the doctors put a tissue expander under the skin to stretch out the skin and increase the surface area of the graft vs stripping a piece straight off of an extremity? Would using an expander make the tissue too thin?

Maybe it's due to the fact that the doctors take more than just the top layers of skin, but I don't know for sure.
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Not a medfag but I'd wager it's because that takes months and trannies want their rot dogs NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
 
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SpaceAce said:
I should be used to it but it still amazes me how nonchalant they are about permanently altering their genitals.

Saying you’re « hesitant to have to deal with the complications » is fine if you’re debating whether or not to set up surround sound by yourself, but I think having a 40% chance you’ll need a catheter for the rest of your life should be treated with a bit more gravitas.
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Bit’o PL about surgery and risk

I have a hella bad back. There is a probability what the problem is, and a surgery that will potentially fix it.
Surgery that cuts through healthy back muscles, slices off a bit of disc, fuses it up, then hopefully the now-removed herniated disc doesn’t keep torturing the local spinal colum nerves. It also stops the rotten discs on their current trajectory of rotting away the neighbouring vertebrae, which crumble by virtue of being unsupported by empty sacks of membrane, rather than the soft suspension they are supposed to be cushioned between.

It’s a standard, safe operation, despite the way it sounds, and the general ickieness over spinal surgery and the way your mind goes with paralysis, etc.

But there’s a tiny chance it might go bad, but a slightly larger chance that it just might not help- and a useless surgery that hasn’t helped, has cut through healthy muscle and tissue
Spinal surgeons are really reluctant to cut through healthy muscle and tissue. It can lead to arthritis, stiffness, weakness, lack of function, other sorts of pain locally.

The trade off for avoiding this risk is near chronic pain, weakness, worsening, occasional hospitalisation for what is feared to be much more serious spinal column complications..

This kind of chronic condition makes it difficult to be employed by anyone other than yourself . It’s depressing. The amount of psychical pain fucks with your head but also the feeling of impotence it brings on. The fact it gets worse and worse. Suicide is a frequent thought with these kind of tricky chronic things.

Troons can walk around their daily life without being literally immbolised by their condition (unless we are talking about ones who have been medically abused with Lurpon as kids, whose joints are now rotting out too!)
Genearly though- They can exist.
Their problem is all in the mind and can and should be treated there- if they don’t want that then they can pay for it themsleves as independent adults.

What I’m saying is, in every other condition, surgery is treated by patient and doctor as a serious risk, not to be undertaken without being the last possible option after other have been exhausted.

I know someone with a similar slightly less serious condition who lived in the US 20 years ago and was operated on immediately - it didn’t help and caused other problems.

The risk/cost/benefit of SRS is insaaaaaaaane and fucked by any normal medical ethic.
At best, a slight bit of fetish fulfilment / temporary psychological boost could happen? How in any way does that stack up against~literally every other metric of how these things are supposed to be calculated? Ever?

Maybe because of the internet, and the very online, spreading discourse nature of troonery, other health services have been culturally influenced and led along with the Let$ Chop Chop NOOOW! American approach.

The idea of surgery is terrifying. Maybe these people have munchie tendancies / the personal predisposition to loving any sort of attention, which makes it comparatively nbd?
 
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Sissyagamben said:
We are too desensitized… “you should just cut off your dick and balls, the inner parts of your penis that we can’t remove will act as a fake clit, and we can create some scar tissue or whatever on your taint to make it look like a human vagina from 100 feet away in the eyes of an alien” is actually somewhat solid advice for the retards we discuss here. Now imagine saying that to a normal man, he will probably want to bash your head in the wall

Edit to add: I imagine in this case the mtf could still have anal sex? Can’t say that for the most post op trannies
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yes they will have anal sex. these surgeries are standardized and have been done for other reasons- testicular or penile cancers, for example, may necessitate removal. minor plastic surgery to create the appearance of the external vulva is more in line with the scope of practice for plastic surgeons.

they are not trained in internal surgeries and any "depth" is out of their scope.

people will do what they want with their bodies, but doctors shouldn't be misleading and damaging people outside their scope of practice with non-standard untested surgeries that can have disabling outcomes. I post this kind of thing every fifty or hundred pages- the surgeons are the cows here. they're fucking monsters. the patients are not being given full disclosure, they're being used to make a quick buck.

the fact that the patient have formed a community that enables this is also terrible, it's what allows the surgeons to keep doing what they do.
 
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Fapcop said:
Btw: For those wondering, here’s what a typical waiver looks like:



My favorite part: “I acknowledge that no guarantee has been given by anyone as to the results that may be obtained.”

And here’s my last contribution for today, which we can name:

TROONS DOING STUPID TROON SHIT!

Now I’d imagine that the reaction from any normal person hearing about a 40% complication rate on a surgery they’re about to get, would be something like: “Whoooah, hold on just a second!”

And promptly nope the fuck out, unless
it’s like a liver transplant for someone who’s terminally ill.

Troons? Not so much!
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Literally a Dr. Cohen.

The memes just write themselves, don't they?
 
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ohforfoxache said:
I'm still flabbergasted that FtM troons submit to the flaying of their arms/legs to create their fleshtube. It looks absolutely ghastly.
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These people have an dream they'll do anything to make real. ANYTHING. And it doesn't cost an arm and a leg, just a bit of skin from their arm. (What a bargin!) I suspect most don't realise how disabling it can be, or just think that their phallus will be so fulfilling that some silly ol' arm pain won't matter. How bad can it be anyway?

And when a you have Doctor (who we are trained from birth to trust) telling us it will all work out great, I'm not surprised they go through with it.
 
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Joe Shmo said:
Heh, great minds think alike. Earlier I had a similar horrifying thought, that they could create some sort of "Genital Exchange" (GENEX™) to pair up FTM's with MTF's so they can swap parts with each other. After all, for every buyer there's a seller!
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Forgive me if someone already mentioned this (catching up on this thread is a bitch if life takes you away from it for a coupla days).

But IIRC, that notorious Serbian genital origami swami* actually proposed doing that. I guess he wanted to put the extra bobs and bits into storage. Kind of like the "take one/leave one" penny boxes that they used to have by a cash register pre-Coof. Leave your unwanted dick/vagoo, and give a used one a brand new forever home. He thought it was wasteful to toss them all into the medical waste bin, so yay for recycling I guess.

* - can't remember his last name, began with a D, I think. Me lazyfag.
 
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