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teriyakiburns said:
You're not mixing him up with McCain, are you?

I mean, I can see why you would; both were loathsome shitheads.
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Yeah, brain-fart on the last part.

McCain and Cheney were two HUGE pieces of shit who used the patriotism thing to get ahead.

When Cheney became Vice President I fucking KNEW that he'd fuck the military up hard. When 11 Sept 01 happened, I knew that he'd fucking hamstring the Army any time he could. When they put fucking Rumsfeld into place, I knew that everything had just gone tits up.

But Cheney, yeah, I'll never forget his little tour.
 
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Jet Fuel Johnny said:
Yeah, brain-fart on the last part.

McCain and Cheney were two HUGE pieces of shit who used the patriotism thing to get ahead.

When Cheney became Vice President I fucking KNEW that he'd fuck the military up hard. When 11 Sept 01 happened, I knew that he'd fucking hamstring the Army any time he could. When they put fucking Rumsfeld into place, I knew that everything had just gone tits up.

But Cheney, yeah, I'll never forget his little tour.
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Speaking of 9/11 and on a tangent.

I find myself forgetting that a lot of adults entering the workforce weren't even alive when it occurred. I can remember, vividly, where I was and what I was doing when I found out. It was an early morning setup, plans for the next years election cycle were in full swing and we were in the middle of a meeting planning how best to use the prior years election to avoid a midterm loss. An intern rushed in, saying there had been some kind of explosion and we all rushed to see the news. It was just this dull sense of horror as I processed what was even going on during that period of mixed and confused news.

I forget that the people now joining our offices never experienced that.
 
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Gehenna said:
Speaking of 9/11 and on a tangent.

I find myself forgetting that a lot of adults entering the workforce weren't even alive when it occurred. I can remember, vividly, where I was and what I was doing when I found out. It was an early morning setup, plans for the next years election cycle were in full swing and we were in the middle of a meeting planning how best to use the prior years election to avoid a midterm loss. An intern rushed in, saying there had been some kind of explosion and we all rushed to see the news. It was just this dull sense of horror as I processed what was even going on during that period of mixed and confused news.

I forget that the people now joining our offices never experienced that.
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Hey friend, at least you aren't getting the "So when are you thinking about retiring, old man?" questions yet.

I've been getting that for a couple years. My answer is always the same: "When I'm dead, and that's a long way off." Not like they have anybody trained to replace me, or any of the other "old guys," anyway. But I have the feeling that they want the old guard out, sooner rather than later, and damn the consequences.
 
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Feehery: Biden is no Reagan, but he can win like him​

Joe Biden is no Ronald Reagan. Some Biden partisans are trying to link the conservative icon with our current bumbling president and, of course, there is no comparison. Reagan was a gifted communicator. Biden is in the malapropist hall of fame. Reagan had a set of deep and unyielding beliefs. Biden blows with the wind. Reagan was a staunch anti-communist. Biden? Not so much. But no matter how dissimilar Biden is from Reagan, Biden can still pull a Reagan. He can come back from a bumpy first two years and win reelection. Indeed, recent history would suggest that the current president is slightly favored to win a second term, should he decide that he wants to run. Bill Clinton’s first two years were even more discouraging to the general public than Mr. Biden’s. Barack Obama may have inspired his own fan base and among wealthy Democrats, but his first two years were no picnic. George W. Bush started his presidency with a series of missteps, but the 9/11 attacks and a weak opponent in then-Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) helped him to win a second term. Here are five ways that Joe Biden can win a second term.

1) The economy rebounds strongly. Whether we are in a recession or not right now doesn’t matter for Biden’s second term. What matters is where we are, fiscally and economically, in 2024. Americans tend to have a short-term memory. Reagan’s recession hurt congressional Republicans in 1982, but with inflation tamed, with interest rates falling back to earth and with burgeoning economic growth, thanks to the president’s pro-growth tax cuts, it was all morning in America by the 1984 elections. If the economy gets worse for the next two years, Joe Biden is toast. But if it comes back (and it usually comes back) Biden could stay in the driver’s seat.

2) The Republicans over-reach. It seems pretty likely that the GOP will take back both the House and the Senate in November. That was the best thing that ever happened to Bill Clinton in the 1994 elections. House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) proved to be a media superstar and took all the attention away from the thoroughly dysfunctional Clinton White House. Republicans were also able to get America’s economic house in order, by insisting on a balanced budget and pro-growth tax cuts, all of which Clinton ran on to win reelection. By insisting on a government shutdown and by losing control of the narrative, Republicans were perceived as being too extreme — and that helped to position Clinton as a centrist.

3) The Republicans can run a flawed candidate. Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kan.), the 1996 nominee, was a great hero and statesman, but a terrible presidential candidate. In 2012, conservatives simply didn’t believe that former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was a severe-enough conservative and they found his campaign uninspiring. In 1984, former Vice President Walter Mondale promised the American people that he would raise their taxes, a dubious promise that fell flat with the tax-paying public. Kerry was easy to portray as an out-of-touch elitist in 2004. Should Donald Trump decide to run again, he could definitely inspire his political base, but at what cost to the rest of the party? And what Republican can possibly run, beat Trump in a primary and get the Trump voters to jump on his or her bandwagon? It’s not as easy as it sounds.

4) A third party forms. Robust third parties are usually bad for incumbents, but they are especially bad for the Republican Party. When Ross Perot ran in 1992, he took the lion’s share of votes away from George H.W. Bush. In 1980, Rep. John Anderson’s (R-Ill.) efforts to run a third-party campaign against Reagan turned out to be nothing more than an annoyance, but at the time, the media played it up as a real threat. When Pat Buchanan ran under the Reform Party banner in 2000, he almost tipped the scales to Vice President Gore. A new third party is being formed as we speak by disaffected former Republican office-holders. Could it become a real factor in 2024? It’s hard to say, but if it doesn’t, it will most likely split Republican voters.

5) Democrats don’t have anybody serious to challenge Biden. The reason Biden is in the White House right now is because the Democrats had nobody else who could plausibly run and win. Kamala Harris hasn’t exactly covered herself in glory so far as vice president. Pete Buttigieg? Give me a break. Gavin Newsom? I don’t think so. The only Democrat who could plausibly win the White House in 2024, outside of Biden, is Joe Manchin, and I don’t see him getting through a Democratic primary.
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Bloomberg has been freaking out all morning about Pelosi's flight, now heading towards Taiwan apparently, though there was a potential switchup with SPAR19 and SPAR20 in Kuala Lumpur. If Xi has to do some face saving, right before the 20th National Party Congress, well.

Honestly, best Dem move all year. The pundits are predicting that the Chinese response will be short of WW3 but still something "painful"; there's still an outsized chance that political weakness within the Politburo may trigger lots of immediate regrets.

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Small stuff here and there, seems to be quieting down. First the big stuff though..

New section added for... some reason. Note: In the beginning of the section they immediately use the "do not feed the trolls" line
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A new "Humor" section... again, idk why?
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And now here's all the small stuff from the beginning of this month
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the fall of man said:
Bloomberg has been freaking out all morning about Pelosi's flight, now heading towards Taiwan apparently, though there was a potential switchup with SPAR19 and SPAR20 in Kuala Lumpur. If Xi has to do some face saving, right before the 20th National Party Congress, well.

Honestly, best Dem move all year. The pundits are predicting that the Chinese response will be short of WW3 but still something "painful"; there's still an outsized chance that political weakness within the Politburo may trigger lots of immediate regrets.
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So, does anybody have "Chinese Distraction" on their bingo card? I'm still of the opinion that nothing much serious will come of it. Don't get me wrong, if the Admin pokes the Taiwanese Independence issue too hard, we will get a reaction out of China. But I don't think that is going to happen. The Chinese have paid their puppets too well.
 
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northstar747 said:
So this is alittle far from the topic of US politics but this guys lecture to a group of pig farmers.

He goes over war in the Ukraine, World Energy supply, World food production, American and other countries demographics, The ending globalism and what this means for pig farmers, Namely no fertilizer means countrie that import food starve.

I found it interesting take. EDIT THAT WAS PART ONE PART TWO TALKS MORE ABOUT THE EN


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I read this guy’s book. It’s very fascinating and also scary.
 
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Sometimes I wonder what's going to happen when Antifa attacks someone concealed carrying and it results in a mass shooting. Beyond Rittenhouse, picture Antifa showing up at once of these dropboxes where the people have their kids there with them, and they just open fire into the Antifa crowd, dropping like 10 or 20 of them.
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Headline: "Violent racist fires indiscriminately into peaceful crowd, killing a mother of three."
He goes to prison forever.

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That does bring up a question. What is the remedy for that? Do they not count those votes? The left would lose their fucking minds at the suggestion.
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"Count every vote." What the left learned in 2020 is that they can just openly break election laws, and if the DA is one of theirs, there isn't shit the right can do about it. It simply doesn't matter what laws are on the books; what matters is who enforces the law. To date, the right still isn't treating the left like the enemy they are, and the GOP spent 2017-2018 passing tax cuts and empowering Mueller rather than reforming the FEC, so I don't really expect much to happen to stop fraud in any state with a Dem governor & AG.

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The real solution will be to outlaw outdoor ballot drop boxes. Then outlaw mail ballots. Has to be done by state. Absentee ballots are still good but should have more regulations.
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Why would the Democrats outlaw something that's working for them? They tried to pass national vote-by-mail and a national ban on voter ID in 2017.
 
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The Ugly One said:
Why would the Democrats outlaw something that's working for them? They tried to pass national vote-by-mail and a national ban on voter ID in 2017.
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They was a suggestion to the maga politicians. The uniparty would never get rid of them. but most likely would have to be done state by state.
 
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So, does anybody have "Chinese Distraction" on their bingo card? I'm still of the opinion that nothing much serious will come of it. Don't get me wrong, if the Admin pokes the Taiwanese Independence issue too hard, we will get a reaction out of China. But I don't think that is going to happen. The Chinese have paid their puppets too well.
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I also doubt there will be anything more, immediately, than firing off a few rockets and seething. But the Communist Youth League (Xi Jinping's faction) also can't stand to lose much face to the Shanghai Clique (Jiang Zemin's faction), and so I do expect a considerable amount of fallout. Of course, this is all complicated by the importance of TSMC and semiconductor supply in recent years.

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Who? I thought ISIS died.
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ISIS is still around, but the person recently executed was Al Qaeda
 
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