General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

I freaking love this dork.
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I was waiting for one the girls to play this. The whole subject matter really bothers me even if it is just a fact of life. We're all going to die someday. But the fact that a mortuary is where dead bodies are kept and prept still sends my brain into a flight or fight response. The horror elements in this game make for good content so I'm looking forward to Gura's response to this.
 
Vesper's really cemented himself as my Holostars oshi, man. It's only been a couple weeks too, but I've found myself very much so looking forward to each of his daily zatsus.
i already know he will be the one i watch the most right after the debut,he is really entertaining to watch just from zatsu
 
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I am starting to wonder if the people shitting up on Mori on /vt/ are the same people calling her out for "cultural appropriation" on twitter. This is the exact same joke from twitter.
Its a generic joke, its been used since times immemorial, not to mention rap has always been a very divisive genre.

 
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Well, first off I want to make 3 things clear:
1- This is all surface level, even tho I extended my search outside the farms, like I previously said. All the KF posts I used as a source will be listed at the end.
2- This can very well be a wiki page and not belong in the farms AT ALL.
3- I'm aware I may be power leveling a bit too much, and also borderline autistic.

Thank you @reinigen, as you were the one who did the whole investigation and I'm just condensing all of it in one post.



Amanogawa Shiina is part of the 2nd Generation of Phase Connect (Alias), but first appeared in this thread as the indie JP/EN Dumpling (Sawashiro) Shirara (2020-2022). "The little indie that could" -Bageldon
Socials: Twitch, Twitter, Tiktok, Reddit (10 year account btw).
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As Shirara, she debuted around october 2020 and streamed exclusively on twitch, with a model she illustrated and rigged herself. During her time as shirara, she managed to get between 60-100 viewers, while streaming 5 days a week and looked pretty active on social media.

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Avatar design arc

On July 17th 2021, she debuted a new redesigned model with a more loli-like appearance, to some backlash about how she now looked more childlike and not "womanly shaped".
RE: Avatar design - She was no stranger to controversy during her time streaming. The biggest thing is she would get targeted by the usual Twitter mob for her model whenever those waves of harrassment were going around despite the fact she herself is a tiny asian IRL. She eventually did end up body posting to try and shut them up.
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She even ended up posting her IRL picture today to prove that she's tiny and rail thin so the mongs who shame her for having a thin/loli looking character don't target her for 'sexualising minors'.
(Looks like she's used to controversy regarding her avatar's body shape and age)
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"Off with their heads" arc

When Calli premiered her song "Off with their heads" she got the Thread's attention as one of the many indies that took offense with the song's lyrics and trying to justify her shortcomings. A short time later she flipped perspectives and took the song as a challenge and a catalyst to improve her content and herself (tweet capture).
As a footnote about this, unlike MANY Envytubers, she was always vocal about her respect for Calli as an artist and merely referred to pointing out her issues with the lack of support (corpo vs indie)
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/HERE/ phase


She would frequent the /wvt/(western vtuber) thread in /thrash/. She'd tweet things that sounded normal but would act as confirmation that she was posting. Later, during the spooki incident, she decided she was done with the place and stopped engaging.

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Yokomeshi Vtuber group


At some point in october 2021, she joined the indie vtuber group Yokomeshi (twitter, archive), sharing a space with other KF familiar Vtubers, like Koopa and BatAtVideoGames. The group still exists today, although with different members, but the twitter page and YT clip channel (archive) still have some of Shirara's illustrations.
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BF and SpookiVT harassment arc


It's unknown to me when did this happen, but she yabbed on stream (pic) and had to come forward and admitted she had a boyfriend. She then came forward publicly about it because of a harasment claim around october 2021 (twitter thread archive). The harasser was another vtuber known as SpookiVT (who was namedropped a few pages ago, and also resurfaced when Shiina's past life was being theorized on /vt/), I´ll just quote the original post from this thread:

This is in relation to the /pcg/ - Phase Connect General - thread on /vt/. In it, people have been causing drama because one of the newly premiered Gen 2 Talents is presumed to be a former indie named Shirara who A) accidentally let slip she has a boyfriend and poorly tried to cover it. And also B) got stalked/harrassed by autist who she treated with professional courtesy as he was a vTuber as well, but seemed that he 'developed feelings' for her. The context is they (autist and Shirara) would chat and be standard weeby back and forth, and both said 'flirty' things at points. He seemed to be the initial instigator of the flirting as well from evidence HE provided. But in that evidence as well is her saying to him (a direct quote) "I flirt furiously but romancing is off limits and I know you know that..."

This guy seemed to be a creep toward a few other vTubers in the indie scene as well.
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During this time she seemed to gain a dedicated anti that'd shit up the thread regularly with a copypastar regarding the boyfriend slip up. Looks like all of this precipitated her fucking out of /wvt/, and (IMHO, along with IRL stuff) kicked off her sad girl phase.

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Final hiatus and graduation

As per Reinigen's post, she went on hiatus on December 2021.
On January 2022 she announced she'd be graduating on Febraury 2nd (reddit, pic), and people like Lumi and Lia (now her senpais in Phase Connect) replied to the tweet. (tweet, pic)
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As of today, she still has a Illustrator twiter account (archive), where she is followed by Lumi, with just one tweet.

Here's a highlight reel of her streams
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Personal Life and time before Phase Connect
Regarding the person behind Shiina/Shirara, there were some details she shared before joining Phase, not all of these can be backed up with documentation since they are recollections.
  • Lives in SoCal but has family in Canada.
  • 2021 has been "the worst year of her life"
  • She was very close with her Grandfather and Grandmother, who also seemed to act as the family's Matriarch, practically raising her.
  • Grandma's health declined in mid 2021 and she temporally moved back to Canada to help take care of her, going on hiatus. Grandma ultimately died shortly after she moved, but she decided to stay ther for a while. She was hamstrung by a subpar streaming set up for a while. They didn't even have enough room for her to live with the family so she was stuck in a camper the entire time.
    • This is probably when the made the BF goof.
    • Her 2nd model redebut got pushed back further that what she'd like and added to the stress
  • When she moved back to SoCal and debuted her new model, her grampa's health declined and she moved back to Canada again. (This happened right before the Spooki Harassment Arc)
  • She worked at Tesla as a Technical Writer until some point in mid-2021, probably around the time the Grandma situation developed. Regarding her tech knowledge - pic
  • She apparently had a rather prolific and successful job as a resin artist. Making cutesy stuff like this. She apparently had to quit the occupation cold turkey however as the fumes from the resin had REALLY bad health effects on her. I presume she didn't live in a place that would give her the proper ventilation necessary to do the work.
  • Apparently she had been a hairs breadth away from becoming a member of a pop idol group. She tried out for this for a while apparently, but always seemed to come up just short. (topic expanded a bit more down below)
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Interactions with Phase members

She did have interactions with Phase talent before she joined them. Most notably Pippa and Lumi while she was still with Cyberlive
Pippa. As Shiina, she openly praises Pippa as someone that can be relied on for support and shared that she bonded with Lumi around the Kpop Idol auditions.

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Present day


After debuting as Shiina, she:
  • Dubbed herself a menhera and a sad girl, having dealt with alcohol and smoking problems in the past. She's also said she now has a healthier lifestyle and excercizes regularly.
  • Has Pipkin
  • claimed Ina as her Oshi and inspiration.
  • shared she's frail healthwise, in one instance telling chat not to worry if her BPM dropped too low even during horror games (bradychardia?), Lactose Intolerant, back pain, carpal tunnel, etc.
  • Uses a Huion pen tablet.
  • told she knows Airi for about 10 years before Phase Connect (as per her Chibi drawing stream -link)
  • wanted to become a Kpop idol, the same as Airi and Lumi. She even went to casting calls and got cut on the final round. Could probably be where she met Airi. - pic from shirara twitter. She talked about it on today's stream (ongoing at the time of editing)
  • has a deep admiration for Tenma
  • also worked in a black company (like Airi) and that, on top of the delayed debut, put her in a bad financial situation.
  • suffered from back pain and carpal tunnel syndrome nearing the end of her run as shirara because of the high volume of commisions she was working on.
  • also made commisions for sakana during this time and when she mentioned him her health issues (commision related), fishman sent her a top of the line tablet easel.
  • made the Phase Connect chinese new year merch illustrations (this was after being accepted but before debut)
  • claims not wanting to power level too much because it puts her on a bad place mentally, and that she's on therapy
  • shared she was a violinist for a time but practicing 4 hours everyday burned her out. She plans on picking it up again.
  • likes Chopin and keeps tabs on the International Chopin Piano Competition.

To close all of this spergery, there's a body pic on the farms, but no facedox.
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Had to double check tweets and video title to make sure I was reading that properly but it seems Haachama is going to be celebrating her birthday by eating..... live shrimp.... I guess.

Trying to go for the Korean audience now, I guess.

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I am starting to wonder if the people shitting up on Mori on /vt/ are the same people calling her out for "cultural appropriation" on twitter. This is the exact same joke from twitter.
TBF that joke did make me laugh.
There are a fair amount of /vt/ users who also shit up Twitter and Reddit as well, so it's possible.

In general I think people gotta remember that some musicians just get dunked on. Anyone here who is old enough to remember Justin Bieber's height of popularity should also remember how so many people dunked on him for no real reason other than him just being kinda cringe. Calli falls into a similar category. The cultural appropriation stuff is dumb, but for a lot of people who are rap fans but not weebs her music will come off as cringe. That the recent tweet that made the rounds was a video of her performing RIP - a song which I think even Calli/Demondice fans would admit is fairly weak - doesn't really help.
 
@DrStupid I think you did a good job with your introduction to Shiina lore. I have a few suggestions though.

With the spoiler 'Shirara/Shiina IRL', you should fix it where someone doesn't have to directly download a .webp to view what your referencing too.

Also, you discussed the boyfriend thing before if you liked to reference it or link to the video you are referring too. has the video, detail on what occurred during and after, while also giving a tidbit about other notable moments she had.
After searching the thread and the /vt/ plagued one, I found a bunch of posts, most of them by @reinigen (who also was right on the money about her past identity)

when she slipped up on stream , she tried to brush it off poorly.
then, when she was going public with a harassment situation - post with another Vtuber she came out on twitter saying she had a BF, and that it was brought up to the harasser. -post
after that, she doubled down and said again that she was in a relationship and that she didn't give a shit about it since she had that yab streaming. - post

Once you start combing the thread a bit, she was mentioned here quite a lot despite being a 200 view indie, and was indirectly involved in many "controversies".
- Butthurt by Calli's "Off with their heads" but then getting inspired by it
- Got flak on twitter for using a loli avatar (despite her being a hag with that exact body type)
- The boyfriend slip
- The SpookiVT harassment situation.

Overall, Think you did a good job providing insight to Shiina's history with multiple sources referenced and keeping it neutral and just stating facts of her history.

Really like reading posts like this that just keep it short and to the point of something and provide links if you wanna dwell deeper into it. Good for newcomers to a individual or event who aren't well versed in it! :semperfidelis:
 
I was waiting for one the girls to play this. The whole subject matter really bothers me even if it is just a fact of life. We're all going to die someday. But the fact that a mortuary is where dead bodies are kept and prept still sends my brain into a flight or fight response. The horror elements in this game make for good content so I'm looking forward to Gura's response to this.
Kobo from ID played this already:
 
I am seeing a lot of victim blaming on victim of grooming and I usually don't jump into conclusion until I am 100% confirm Pipkin dox is real. However if this is true and her boyfriend groom her, doesn't that mean that Pipkin is the victim. Grooming a 13 year old and blaming her when she is being groom at 13 is victim blaming. We usually go after the groomer not the 13 year old that was the victim. I also want to add most victim that are groom do develop stock home syndrome.
 
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