Containment Official Decision Regarding Gender and Chris/Gender Discussion Megathread

[PillCosby]

Normally id be all over calling somebody by the pronouns they choose for themselves. I don't understand it but i respect it. Chris is different. He has a vary vary vary long track record of doi g things simply for attention. Im personally on the fence about it.

You are varying degrees of retarded. But you are very retarded

 

[Lancelot]

Chris said in leaked messages that it is the reason ...

I just dont believe it

Tbh I think reason he became trans is same reason alot of autists become trans.

1: difficulty coming to terms with masculinity. Nearly every teenage male is gonna go through a phase of this. Creation of self identity includes a conceptualization of what sex is and your relationship is with it. A flamboyant gay dude might love his flower garden while also be a bit of a gear head into cars. Seemingly two poles in his life that he is pulled between and it could cause him stress in early years. Eventually he just accepts it is what it is and finds his own niche and expression of masculinity .

Chris really never got out of that phase. Perhaps because he never had any positive masculine figures in his life. He has associated masculine with the meanness of his father, and of the numerous bullies mocking his appearance and interests.

2: he associates positive values ( ie not trolling him and sharing some interests ) with women. Women also make his pee pee hard. His closest and arguably only lasting relationship has been with his mother.

No surprise he has begun to idealise and arguably even fetishize being female

3: Troon community is unbelievably open to degenerate and pats on the back.

It's okay that he is fat. It's okay that he smells. It's okay that he is in his 40s drawing sonic with crayons while living in lego den. There is no standards because there is a distinct social justice wing that views standards as bigoted and unjust

 

[Pointless Sperg]

There's a strong correlation between autism and transgenderism, so yeah, I don't doubt Chris is a "real tranny". His extreme stubbornness makes anything as life-changing as a gender transition improbable if it doesn't come from a genuine place.

I think the question is Chris's specific form of transgenderism. From what I can tell there are three broad categories of trans people:

1. Genuinely mentally ill individuals who, for mysterious reasons like with schizophrenia or chronic depression, happen to suffer from gender dysphoria.
2. Sexual deviants who get off to the idea of being the other gender. Basically a fetish, and one usually borne out of sexual frustration. These are usually MtF.
3. Internet addicts who seek out attention, validation and the feeling of being special, and who jump on the tranny wagon because they want to be part of a hip subculture. These are usually FtM.

While these are all valid points, there's another category you're not considering. Those who have simply become socialized as the other gender, not because of schizophrenia or depression, but because that's what they're comfortable with.

PL: Not troon, but know many. Some of them do match your descriptions, and #3 has become more prevalent lately, but I know some who simply have that personality and choose to express it that way, without any obvious mental issues.

Though in practice when on HRT they develop a lot of same annoying behavior patterns of the other sex, and when they first start they don't have the learned experience of how to deal with it. But that goes both ways. FtM get fucking surly when they go on the T.

 

[Pappy Striderite]

fucking claim chris as one of their own

'his own' will straighten him out on the matter, i'm sure. with a brick.

 

[Megaton Punch]

It really is wild that this thread is almost as old as KF itself. Chris has officially been a tranny for longer than the internet knew him as someone who kept in mind what his true, original gender was.

I just dont believe it

Tbh I think reason he became trans is same reason alot of autists become trans.

1: difficulty coming to terms with masculinity. Nearly every teenage male is gonna go through a phase of this. Creation of self identity includes a conceptualization of what sex is and your relationship is with it. A flamboyant gay dude might love his flower garden while also be a bit of a gear head into cars. Seemingly two poles in his life that he is pulled between and it could cause him stress in early years. Eventually he just accepts it is what it is and finds his own niche and expression of masculinity .

Chris really never got out of that phase. Perhaps because he never had any positive masculine figures in his life. He has associated masculine with the meanness of his father, and of the numerous bullies mocking his appearance and interests.

2: he associates positive values ( ie not trolling him and sharing some interests ) with women. Women also make his pee pee hard. His closest and arguably only lasting relationship has been with his mother.

No surprise he has begun to idealise and arguably even fetishize being female

3: Troon community is unbelievably open to degenerate and pats on the back.

It's okay that he is fat. It's okay that he smells. It's okay that he is in his 40s drawing sonic with crayons while living in lego den. There is no standards because there is a distinct social justice wing that views standards as bigoted and unjust

It's mostly point 2, but it's even simpler than that. Chris doesn't see people as people, he sees them in terms of what he personally can get out of them. His entire understanding of the two genders is that women make him horny and that men take women away from him by making them not boyfriend-free. Thus, it's natural that he'd hate men, because in his eyes they're nothing but competition for a resource. Normal men befriend other men for conversation or to share ideas, but Chris doesn't do these things. If he's conversing with someone, it's to get something he wants, which is usually sex. He doesn't share ideas, he dictates them and gets mad if you offer any constructive criticism. The closest thing he's ever had to a real male friend was Liquid Chris.

He also never liked any of the "interests" he "shared" with his gal pals. He just pretended to because he thought it'd make them easier to fuck. MLP is maybe the one exception, and that's more just because MLP has some otherworldly ability to entrance autists for reasons science cannot explain.

He just hates men and always has. Rescinding his maleness was a foregone conclusion once he learned that you can be a "transbian".

 

[King Kiwi]

Normally I'd be all over calling somebody by the pronouns they choose for themselves. I don't understand it but I respect it. Chris is different. He has a very very very long track record of doing things simply for attention. I'm personally on the fence about it.

I'd worry less about pronouns and more about the grammar and spelling I fixed for you.

...

Don't even get me started on your sentence structure.

 

[Lancelot]

It really is wild that this thread is almost as old as KF itself. Chris has officially been a tranny for longer than the internet knew him as someone who kept in mind what his true, original gender was.


It's mostly point 2, but it's even simpler than that. Chris doesn't see people as people, he sees them in terms of what he personally can get out of them. His entire understanding of the two genders is that women make him horny and that men take women away from him by making them not boyfriend-free. Thus, it's natural that he'd hate men, because in his eyes they're nothing but competition for a resource. Normal men befriend other men for conversation or to share ideas, but Chris doesn't do these things. If he's conversing with someone, it's to get something he wants, which is usually sex. He doesn't share ideas, he dictates them and gets mad if you offer any constructive criticism. The closest thing he's ever had to a real male friend was Liquid Chris.

He also never liked any of the "interests" he "shared" with his gal pals. He just pretended to because he thought it'd make them easier to fuck. MLP is maybe the one exception, and that's more just because MLP has some otherworldly ability to entrance autists for reasons science cannot explain.

He just hates men and always has. Rescinding his maleness was a foregone conclusion once he learned that you can be a "transbian".

"doesnt see people as people " Well on a limited level thats what being unable to empathise means. I can fully well know that the people i come across in the street are functioning autonomous human beings with their own interests and desires. However if I cant actually truly empathise with them then functionally it comes down to what those people mean within my life.
I do think his interest in women ( and even trying to emulate them) goes beyond making his dick hard though. It really goes as far back as we can see in his life; that he psychologically has a hangup about his idea of what men and women ultimately are. Some of that might be sexual but still
"he pretended to share interests "
I would question that as even that requires a level of insight into others im not sure he has. Most of what ive seen chris do girl wise seems to stem from him acting out how he thinks a girl should act. On top of some of his already existing effeminate behaviours

 

[Megaton Punch]

"doesnt see people as people " Well on a limited level thats what being unable to empathise means. I can fully well know that the people i come across in the street are functioning autonomous human beings with their own interests and desires. However if I cant actually truly empathise with them then functionally it comes down to what those people mean within my life.
I do think his interest in women ( and even trying to emulate them) goes beyond making his dick hard though. It really goes as far back as we can see in his life; that he psychologically has a hangup about his idea of what men and women ultimately are. Some of that might be sexual but still

It's hard to say. He does, or did, talk about having a daughter, getting married, that sort of thing. But does he actually want to get married and have a daughter, or does he just think that that's what you're "supposed to do"? His ideal daughter is basically just the female version of him, right down to a very similar name, and when he talks about married life it consists mostly of his wife telling him how brave and handsome he is, making him food, and then letting him fuck her. He's definitely the "mommy gf" type, which makes his ultimate fate rather poetic in a twisted sense.

"he pretended to share interests "
I would question that as even that requires a level of insight into others im not sure he has. Most of what ive seen chris do girl wise seems to stem from him acting out how he thinks a girl should act. On top of some of his already existing effeminate behaviours

He definitely pretended to like Sailor Moon simply because Megan did, but I suppose that's the only example I can actually think of. Otherwise he just expected the boyfriend-free girls to adapt to his own interests without any effort whatsoever. The fact that he honestly believed that a parade of beautiful young women were throwing themselves at him really speaks to his grasp on reality. He probably thought that being the creator of Sonichu made him a 10/10 that any woman would want, so why should he bother doing something like showing genuine interest in someone?

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

It's hard to say. He does, or did, talk about having a daughter, getting married, that sort of thing. But does he actually want to get married and have a daughter, or does he just think that that's what you're "supposed to do"? His ideal daughter is basically just the female version of him, right down to a very similar name, and when he talks about married life it consists mostly of his wife telling him how brave and handsome he is, making him food, and then letting him fuck her. He's definitely the "mommy gf" type, which makes his ultimate fate rather poetic in a twisted sense.


He definitely pretended to like Sailor Moon simply because Megan did, but I suppose that's the only example I can actually think of. Otherwise he just expected the boyfriend-free girls to adapt to his own interests without any effort whatsoever. The fact that he honestly believed that a parade of beautiful young women were throwing themselves at him really speaks to his grasp on reality. He probably thought that being the creator of Sonichu made him a 10/10 that any woman would want, so why should he bother doing something like showing genuine interest in someone?

He was a lonely guy who wanted the normal things a man his age would naturally want. He was just a maladjusted dummy who went about it in the most fail way possible. I really think KF overanalyzes his psyche.

I firmly believe that if a woman had come to him and been 100% sincerely interested in him, he would have dropped all this Sonichu shit and conformed to what she wanted him to be.

 

[A-№1]

He was a lonely guy who wanted the normal things a man his age would naturally want.

Most normal guys don't want a fuckmommy to take care of them.

if a woman had come to him and been 100% sincerely interested in him,

She would also have to provide for all his financial needs and desires for comfort. Chris' love quest had a very mercenary aspect to it, which is hilarious given the circumstances.

 

[Jomi]

Some twitter homo-journo crying about Chris re his gender https://twitter.com/dannews/status/1561621210492182528

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

1: difficulty coming to terms with masculinity. Nearly every teenage male is gonna go through a phase of this. Creation of self identity includes a conceptualization of what sex is and your relationship is with it. A flamboyant gay dude might love his flower garden while also be a bit of a gear head into cars. Seemingly two poles in his life that he is pulled between and it could cause him stress in early years. Eventually he just accepts it is what it is and finds his own niche and expression of masculinity .

Chris really never got out of that phase. Perhaps because he never had any positive masculine figures in his life. He has associated masculine with the meanness of his father, and of the numerous bullies mocking his appearance and interests.

I think Chris has become a lot more manlier since he's "transitioned" then he or anyone else would like to admit.

I also think that Chris doesn't worship women, he worships the idea of women that he came up with. For example: Autistic people love colors, and bright colors, which Chris started wearing since he trooned out. Chris sees: "Men wear duller colors, but the laydees can wear hot pink or bright colors!". Similar things with toys, Chris gravitated to the toys that were the most colorful, but at the same time, was playing things like transformers and legos, constructing toys, like any normal boy.

Chris sees "Men have to go to work while women get to sit home alllll day and watch the kids" Granted he thinks watching the kids means screaming at them and sitting them in front a television screen while he does his own thing, verses what he thinks a man is, going to work, "being tired" from it, etc...

So Chris has this idea that the stereotypical view of women is one thing, and he glommed onto that thinking it was easy street. Talk about him and gender issues never came up until after he transitioned. The only thing people can say prior to that, is Chris wanted to play with girl toys and didn't understand why he couldn't, or something.

I do think his interest in women ( and even trying to emulate them) goes beyond making his dick hard though.

I think trooning out made his dick hard. He went and did what all the AGP type people do, starting talking about "upskirt" shots and his "protection" again that, how big his titties are getting, how to make them bigger, and all the other tranny stuff Chris dove head first into. His almost fetishizing going into the women's room.

Also you have to remember that when he got the chance, watched for the right time he had zero issues getting into Barb's snatch, to the point where Chad Chan came out and was bragging about how much of a stud he was, putting actual effort into this asspatting story about how he was better than every other guy that fucked his mom, including his father. The interesting thing, is that he was talking about it, as it was happening, and that's the first thing he talked about. It wasn't until the backlash that he tried to retcon it into something softer, more "feminine" about hugging Barb and sending tardrays from his magic rocks to heal her. But at the apex of the Barb Breaking, Chris was as happy and bragging about the sex he was getting as any man would.

And hey, knowing what we know now, Barb was right when she told Chris that after he transitioned, he'd try to kill her.

 

[Lancelot]

I think Chris has become a lot more manlier since he's "transitioned" then he or anyone else would like to admit.

I also think that Chris doesn't worship women, he worships the idea of women that he came up with. For example: Autistic people love colors, and bright colors, which Chris started wearing since he trooned out. Chris sees: "Men wear duller colors, but the laydees can wear hot pink or bright colors!". Similar things with toys, Chris gravitated to the toys that were the most colorful, but at the same time, was playing things like transformers and legos, constructing toys, like any normal boy.

Chris sees "Men have to go to work while women get to sit home alllll day and watch the kids" Granted he thinks watching the kids means screaming at them and sitting them in front a television screen while he does his own thing, verses what he thinks a man is, going to work, "being tired" from it, etc...

So Chris has this idea that the stereotypical view of women is one thing, and he glommed onto that thinking it was easy street. Talk about him and gender issues never came up until after he transitioned. The only thing people can say prior to that, is Chris wanted to play with girl toys and didn't understand why he couldn't, or something.

The error in this thinking is chris has already expressed interest in being a stay at home husband (then tomboy wife) while his wife goes out and supports them. I just dont think Chris's fantasy of women includes the idea that women dont work. I think he just has settled that he wont work.
"chris plays with bright colours in line with his autism." Its certainly an important aesthetic choice; but more goes into his selection than just colour. He clearly seems to be invested in the lore and "feminine" fantasy of MLP for example. I also would point out lego is a relatively gender neutral toy .

I think trooning out made his dick hard. He went and did what all the AGP type people do, starting talking about "upskirt" shots and his "protection" again that, how big his titties are getting, how to make them bigger, and all the other tranny stuff Chris dove head first into. His almost fetishizing going into the women's room.

There is absolutely undeniably a primary sexual component to a large contingent of such troons yes.

Also you have to remember that when he got the chance, watched for the right time he had zero issues getting into Barb's snatch, to the point where Chad Chan came out and was bragging about how much of a stud he was, putting actual effort into this asspatting story about how he was better than every other guy that fucked his mom, including his father.

"watched for the right time"
Once again this leans into chris being significantly more moustache twirling and planned out than he seems to be. Ive seen people say a few times that chris was just waiting for his mom to reach a specific point of too far gone to pounce. Its important to recognise there isnt really evidence of that. Barb has been out of it for like half a decade if not longer. As I mentioned earlier chris certainly is not trustworthy with such situations. I dont think he plans such things out or even that such an opportunity is a 1:1 ( it occurs: He pounces) . It really seems that its more likely a confluence of factors went into chris finally going after his mom. She has been like this a long time, and they already have a disconcerting relationship going back a very long time ( odd cuddling, her telling him she would date him if she was another girl lol )

 

[FiddleAReich]

Is Chris in a male or female jail?

 

[AnOminous]

Is Chris in a male or female jail?

Male. Because he's a man. Virginia has not yet completely lost its mind.

 

[Hopkinsville Goblin]

Is Chris in a male or female jail?

You pay for cable so you can watch Fox News, don't you?

 

[FiddleAReich]

You pay for cable so you can watch Fox News, don't you?

I pirate my Tucker content, for your information.

 

[BobbyEHill-21]

It was pretty clear Chris was only being a transtrender so he could go after women and get sympathy points because he’s pretending to be part of a minority group that’s literally coddled like they’re toddlers.

 

[Homesick Abortion]

It was pretty clear Chris was only being a transtrender so he could go after women and get sympathy points because he’s pretending to be part of a minority group that’s literally coddled like they’re toddlers.

And what did it cost him but his pretroon identity that he hates anyway? Trooning out is like suicide lite but comes with supporters and lets you play grammar police irl. Chris is too autistic to know or care that people are just pretending they think he's a woman.

I like how Chris is a parody of the trans movement. The dude literally identifies as a cartoon character goddess who lives in a computer and travels dimensions.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

It was pretty clear Chris was only being a transtrender so he could go after women and get sympathy points because he’s pretending to be part of a minority group that’s literally coddled like they’re toddlers.

While the special treatment might be part of why he proactively keeps it up I don’t think that was the initial intention, I think Chris treats it as seriously as being trans species (Part Sonichu) or trans age (An immortal 21 year old).

I don’t think Chris is smart enough to work out ahead of time any benefits identifying as female in the modern political climate would have brought him since he’s not really shown much foresight in any other part of his life, particularly when it comes to understanding how other people think.