Debate the woes of owning a penis with Shamash

[Ishtar]

I’ve never understood FtM. Like I can get men who feel inadequate and unable to meet any standard or expectation of masculine success or achievement trooning out because of the benefits women get as well as incessant “slay kween” girl boss “women snake through life without breaking a sweat” propaganda.

But why would any woman even the plainest most undesirable one become a man? What on earth do they think they will get? I mean, I suppose if you are like so undesirable that even the most sex starved incel would say no, then I guess I could see it.

But it sounds like a super poor trade. As a woman even an ugly one gets attention and re affirmation in pity at least.

 

[Buckaroo]

I’ve never understood FtM. Like I can get men who feel inadequate and unable to meet any standard or expectation of masculine success or achievement trooning out because of the benefits women get as well as incessant “slay kween” girl boss “women snake through life without breaking a sweat” propaganda.

But why would any woman even the plainest most undesirable one become a man? What on earth do they think they will get? I mean, I suppose if you are like so undesirable that even the most sex starved incel would say no, then I guess I could see it.

But it sounds like a super poor trade. As a woman even an ugly one gets attention and re affirmation in pity at least.

Yaoi induced brain rot is a common trait among FtM in recent years.

 

[The Line]

I’ve never understood FtM. Like I can get men who feel inadequate and unable to meet any standard or expectation of masculine success or achievement trooning out because of the benefits women get as well as incessant “slay kween” girl boss “women snake through life without breaking a sweat” propaganda.

But why would any woman even the plainest most undesirable one become a man? What on earth do they think they will get? I mean, I suppose if you are like so undesirable that even the most sex starved incel would say no, then I guess I could see it.

But it sounds like a super poor trade. As a woman even an ugly one gets attention and re affirmation in pity at least.

For me, I feel the opposite.
I don't see why any man would want to become a woman unless it's for fetish purposes or strange validation. Why would you want to be physically weaker, have the difficult role in reproduction and be pressured to do stupid things that men aren't?
I guess the grass is always greener on the other side.

 

[Ishtar]

For me, as a femoid, I feel the opposite.
I don't see why any man would want to become a woman unless it's for fetish purposes. Why would you want to be physically weaker, have the difficult role in reproduction and be pressured to do stupid things that men aren't?
I guess the grass is greener on the other side.

You have no idea. A man lives alone whether he is married or not. In his own mind and soul-he bares his individual identity, his weakness and the failure of his dreams while gazing upon the cold indifference of the sun and stars.

Women being as they are social creatures-don’t realize the sheer loneliness, bitterness, and callous indifference that being a man entails. You have people to cry on, which is acceptable for you, you have friends, family.

A man has to endure the cold winds of the earth, the reality no one will remember or weep at his grave unless he has done something to warrant their grief, and the ever pressing understanding that he can not reach out and take the stars into his will.

This existential agony affects every man, even if they don’t express in such terms.

Women don’t look at crowds passing them by and feel as failures or gaze at the sun and understand how hostile the universe really is.

Men bare the coldness and indifference of the world on their backs and in their hearts.

We shield you from this, and you shield each other. We bare it however with no support or veil to hide the inherent awfulness of reality from our conscious mind.

 

[The Line]

You have no idea. A man lives alone whether he is married or not. In his own mind and soul-he bares his individual identity, his weakness and the failure of his dreams while gazing upon the cold indifference of the sun and stars.

Women being as they are social creatures-don’t realize the sheer loneliness, bitterness, and callous indifference that being a man entails. You have people to cry on, which is acceptable for you, you have friends, family.

A man has to endure the cold winds of the earth, the reality no one will remember or weep at his grave unless he has done something to warrant their grief, and the ever pressing understanding that he can not reach out and take the stars into his will.

This existential agony affects every man, even if they don’t express in such terms.

Women don’t look at crowds passing them by and feel as failures or gaze at the sun and understand how hostile the universe really is.

Men bare the coldness and indifference of the world on their backs and in their hearts.

We shield you from this, and you shield each other. We bare it however with no support or veil to hide the inherent awfulness of reality from our conscious mind.

What was this dramatic poem supposed to say? That men are lonely and apparently can't confide in anyone? Being perpetually lonely is not specific to or an unescapable reality for a man. Even Lucas has his discord kittens.
It's possible to find friends and family to confide in. I wish you the best with that.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

I’ve never understood FtM. Like I can get men who feel inadequate and unable to meet any standard or expectation of masculine success or achievement trooning out because of the benefits women get as well as incessant “slay kween” girl boss “women snake through life without breaking a sweat” propaganda.

But why would any woman even the plainest most undesirable one become a man? What on earth do they think they will get? I mean, I suppose if you are like so undesirable that even the most sex starved incel would say no, then I guess I could see it.

But it sounds like a super poor trade. As a woman even an ugly one gets attention and re affirmation in pity at least.

You're trying to rationalize a severe mental illness

 

[Ishtar]

What was this dramatic poem supposed to say? That men are lonely and apparently can't confide in anyone?
Your debilitating aspbergers seems to be affecting how you view reality. Sad!

To be a man is to be alone, and to suffer alone. And to exist and live is to suffer. Women are shielded by both male protection and pedestal placing, and by each other. We are not, we bare the cold and heat and the indifference for you.

On the contrary, I understand just how awful and cruel reality really is. As a woman you are shielded from this truth.

(Women who try to live as men get a taste of the sheer indifference that being a man entails).

To be fair, Lucas falls into pieces when he's deprived of his Twitter hugbox.

part of being a man is being able to endure what you might call existential pain-that is simply existing as these biological creatures in the world with no support or promise.

I suspect keffals and many other MtFs troon out because they can’t grok it.

Take your meds.

Taking meds is a coping mechanism to deal with the problem I identified. So…no.

 

[Backinpogform]

Taking meds is a coping mechanism to deal with the problem I identified. So…no.

How about you just shut up then?

 

[Violence King]

I’ve never understood FtM. Like I can get men who feel inadequate and unable to meet any standard or expectation of masculine success or achievement trooning out because of the benefits women get as well as incessant “slay kween” girl boss “women snake through life without breaking a sweat” propaganda.

But why would any woman even the plainest most undesirable one become a man? What on earth do they think they will get? I mean, I suppose if you are like so undesirable that even the most sex starved incel would say no, then I guess I could see it.

But it sounds like a super poor trade. As a woman even an ugly one gets attention and re affirmation in pity at least.

there's been more than one example of them thinking
"If I become a man, I will have male privilege and my life will become easier!"
They always think the grass is greener on the other side until they learn the truth the hard way.
Ellen Page comes to mind - bitch "Transitions" because "male privilege" when she's like 5'1".
Nothing is easy or privileged in the life of a "man" that is 5'1" lol.

 

[Ducks Sorted in a Row]

To be a man is to be alone, and to suffer alone. And to exist and live is to suffer. Women are shielded by both male protection and pedestal placing, and by each other. We are not, we bare the cold and heat and the indifference for you.

On the contrary, I understand just how awful and cruel reality really is. As a woman you are shielded from this truth.

(Women who try to live as men get a taste of the sheer indifference that being a man entails).


part of being a man is being able to endure what you might call existential pain-that is simply existing as these biological creatures in the world with no support or promise.

I suspect keffals and many other MtFs troon out because they can’t grok it.

Edgiest post I've seen on the Farms in a while. Don't worry bro, I remember the first time I read Emil Cioran as well, you get over it eventually.

 

[SNAFU]

To be a man is to be alone, and to suffer alone. And to exist and live is to suffer. Women are shielded by both male protection and pedestal placing, and by each other. We are not, we bare the cold and heat and the indifference for you.

On the contrary, I understand just how awful and cruel reality really is. As a woman you are shielded from this truth.

(Women who try to live as men get a taste of the sheer indifference that being a man entails).


part of being a man is being able to endure what you might call existential pain-that is simply existing as these biological creatures in the world with no support or promise.

I suspect keffals and many other MtFs troon out because they can’t grok it.

... you doing ok?

 

[Fields Of Rye]

To be a man is to be alone, and to suffer alone. And to exist and live is to suffer. Women are shielded by both male protection and pedestal placing, and by each other. We are not, we bare the cold and heat and the indifference for you.

On the contrary, I understand just how awful and cruel reality really is. As a woman you are shielded from this truth.

(Women who try to live as men get a taste of the sheer indifference that being a man entails).

Gonna be real with you king, if you're the Incel, low T, balding, ugly bastard type even you can go make friends with others like yourself at the nearest games workshop.

I wouldn't trade the fact that as a dude I can turn on my American government issue mass shooter detector goggles and make friends with the weirdos simply by acknowledging their existence to be surrounded by false friends, people who are probably looking to score, and women. And those weirdos will literally stick by you through thick and fucking thin. Some of these dudes all I did was eat lunch with after class in college. And cause gay people are a different kind of weird, I don't even have to worry about being slobbered on or raped. I don't have to deal with simps. It sounds hard to believe, but being surrounded by people who are essentially barely downstream from simply wanting to put their dick in you is not a good place.

I didn't realize it till working in a summer camp with coed dorms. Women are cunts to each other. All the time. It's a low pressure, constant nipping that if you ever get a woman to crack open about it while the wound is fresh you will be in fucking awe at how awful they can be. Lesbians beat the shit out of each other because women fucking hate women. Women have higher mental illness rates because they are constantly coping with dealing with women. The idealized world that trannies exist in where all the women act like the cast of KON doesn't exist.
there's a few "femanons", (the fuck do we call them here?) in the transgender surgery thread who call them "Handmaidens", or ball washers; other women who act like the supporting cast of an anime show for a tranny because they are literally afraid of them.

I fully believe this "KONification" of what life actually is as a woman, promoted by the feminist sisterhood type, is the mixture of wheat, sugar, and hops that the yeasty crotch rot of feminine idealization ferments into a Troon. And sure, I don't like the fact that I can disappear off the face of the planet for a week and at most get a text from my roommate asking if I've died. But then again, I feel awkward when the local cafe asks if I want the usual.

 

[Ishtar]

Gonna be real with you king, if you're the Incel, low T, balding, ugly bastard type even you can go make friends with others like yourself at the nearest games workshop.

I wouldn't trade the fact that as a dude I can turn on my American government issue mass shooter detector goggles and make friends with the weirdos simply by acknowledging their existence to be surrounded by false friends, people who are probably looking to score, and women. And those weirdos will literally stick by you through thick and fucking thin. Some of these dudes all I did was eat lunch with after class in college. And cause gay people are a different kind of weird, I don't even have to worry about being slobbered on or raped. I don't have to deal with simps. It sounds hard to believe, but being surrounded by people who are essentially barely downstream from simply wanting to put their dick in you is not a good place.

I didn't realize it till working in a summer camp with coed dorms. Women are cunts to each other. All the time. It's a low pressure, constant nipping that if you ever get a woman to crack open about it while the wound is fresh you will be in fucking awe at how awful they can be. Lesbians beat the shit out of each other because women fucking hate women. Women have higher mental illness rates because they are constantly coping with dealing with women. The idealized world that trannies exist in where all the women act like the cast of KON doesn't exist.
there's a few "femanons", (the fuck do we call them here?) in the transgender surgery thread who call them "Handmaidens", or ball washers; other women who act like the supporting cast of an anime show for a tranny because they are literally afraid of them.

I fully believe this "KONification" of what life actually is as a woman, promoted by the feminist sisterhood type, is the mixture of wheat, sugar, and hops that the yeasty crotch rot of feminine idealization ferments into a Troon. And sure, I don't like the fact that I can disappear off the face of the planet for a week and at most get a text from my roommate asking if I've died. But then again, I feel awkward when the local cafe asks if I want the usual.

>Try to engage in existential reflection.
>get called an incel by some retard on the internet.
>Buddha was right
>Life is suffering.

 

[Backinpogform]

>Try to engage in existential reflection.
>get called an incel by some retard on the internet.
>Buddha was right
>Life is suffering.

No you barged into a lolcow thread and made several long-winded, self-pitying posts that derailed the conversation to the point a mod has made a thread just for you. There’s plenty of dudes on here who agree with you. You could’ve easily gone to one of the megathreads to talk about all your woes with women and how anyone being frustrated with you shitting up a thread is proof society doesn’t care about your mental health or some shit.

Look at it this way: if a woman had gone in and made it all about how women have it harder than men and to disagree with her shitting up the thread? You absolutely would be the first bloke telling her to stfu and stop being an attention whore by blaming dudes and telling her to go to a megathread to hash it out. Hold yourself to the same standard.

 

[Ishtar]

No you barged into a lolcow thread and made several long-winded, self-pitying posts that derailed the conversation to the point a mod has made a thread just for you. There’s plenty of dudes on here who agree with you. You could’ve easily gone to one of the megathreads to talk about all your woes with women and how anyone being frustrated with you shitting up a thread is proof society doesn’t care about your mental health or some shit.

Look at it this way: if a woman had gone in and made it all about how women have it harder than men and to disagree with her shitting up the thread? You absolutely would be the first bloke telling her to stfu and stop being an attention whore by blaming dudes and telling her to go to a megathread to hash it out. Hold yourself to the same standard.

Lol.

Dude, none of those posts remotely related to women. Beyond "women don't have the same existential/spiritual burdens men do".

How the fuck can you or anyone be so fucking retarded as to not understand that?

 

[Backinpogform]

Lol.

Dude, none of those posts remotely related to women. Beyond "women don't have the same existential/spiritual burdens men do".

How the fuck can you or anyone be so fucking retarded as to not understand that?

And NONE of this is about Keffals, so you got your own thread purely because you wouldn’t stfu in an unrelated thread. You have zero reading comprehension, you didn’t even understand that my post wasn’t about your little fee fees but rather you breaking the rules regardless that my post containing the phrase “shitting up a thread” twice.

Read the rules before you sperg about how no one cares about your failing mental health. Christ, it’s really not that hard to grasp.

 

[AMHOLIO]

To be a man is to be alone, and to suffer alone. And to exist and live is to suffer. Women are shielded by both male protection and pedestal placing, and by each other. We are not, we bare the cold and heat and the indifference for you.

I feel like you need more people in your life to talk to. No one has to be alone forever - man or woman. No man is an island. If you have other mates who are men they'll know what's up, even if they don't verbalize it.

On the contrary, I understand just how awful and cruel reality really is. As a woman you are shielded from this truth.

I never get this considering women try to kill themselves as well. Even then, women face other problems like higher chances of sexual assault. I've read it's incredibly humiliating, lonely, and othering - I think the world is tougher for men, but I think women understand loneliness and cruelty more than you think. Even if it's not the privileged ones in the west, say the women in countries where rape victims get blamed and othered for daring to walk in public alone and their family turns on them.

I think existentialism & dread is shared by both genders. Women do tend to have a larger social net and less success related expectations, but they have their own standards and kicks to the groin that men don't have too. A woman being othered by mean girls and made to feel alone in a school or workplace is an example, especially if her parents or siblings don't give a shit. Old ladies without family who are devalued by society and considered someone else's problem are another, much like old men. Girls and guys have differences, but there's more universal common ground than not imo.

 

[Ishtar]

I feel like you need more people in your life to talk to. No one has to be alone forever - man or woman. No man is an island. If you have other mates who are men they'll know what's up, even if they don't verbalize it.


I never get this considering women try to kill themselves as well. Even then, women face other problems like higher chances of sexual assault. I've read it's incredibly humiliating, lonely, and othering - I think the world is tougher for men, but I think women understand loneliness and cruelty more than you think. Even if it's not the privileged ones in the west, say the women in countries where rape victims get blamed and othered for daring to walk in public alone and their family turns on them.

I think existentialism & dread is shared by both genders. Women do tend to have a larger social net and less success related expectations, but they have their own standards and kicks to the groin that men don't have too. A woman being othered by mean girls and made to feel alone in a school or workplace is an example, especially if her parents or siblings don't give a shit. Old ladies without family who are devalued by society and considered someone else's problem are another, much like old men. Girls and guys have differences, but there's more universal common ground than not imo.

When I say existential concerns I speak in both the macro and personal scale. A man goes through life knowing that the only people that care about him are his family and perhaps close friends(if he is so blessed to have either). Women form social support networks, against the cold indifference of the world. Both the passing crowd ignoring your bleeding corpse and the sun shining on your bones. Men have to endure this on their own. At least, when all is said and done they do, mannerbunds and what not do mitigate it, but a man’s interior life, his spiritual pains are not shared the way women more or less merge into a gestalt when together.

Men do have to make their value, a woman’s value is innate. Unless she is barren or totally incapable of conceiving children she possesses something of innate worth. That is the propagation of humanity itself. A man must make himself valuable, if he isn’t, if he fails or he simply doesn’t possess the qualities that allow him to stand out, or such qualities are too common, then he is chaff in the wind. No one will mourn him, he possesses nothing that will avail him to his peers or his superiors, just because he exists. Not so with women.

Have women ever had spiritual crises? Is God real? Does He care for me? Do I have a soul? If not I face oblivion, if I do-might I be damned to everlasting punishment? Why am I just a weak creature of blood and bone, why can’t I take the stars? Flesh is a prison, or is it all? These existential and spiritual questions have long gnawed at men. What is the golden path? And what is broad road? Why does evil exist? Why is life so fragile? How can I know? How can I doubt? Not doubt? Man is a spiritual being, woman is not.

Never for women. It’s telling women are more interested in astrology-because it seems to them the universe in some way “cares” about them or they hold some significance to it. A woman’s socialization and her support allows her to believe this with near absolute certainty. To a man this is categorically absurd(not that male astrologers didn’t exist but they viewed in a different light).

These problems gnaw at men’s minds, some become hedonistic and indifferent, some religious, some focused on career and ambition. Regardless it affects them all. Women don’t have these problems, or if they do-they are sheltered from them again by social networks and male protection.

 

[murph]

Get a fucking blog.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Woes? As the owner of a gigantic penis, my complaints are few.