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Rezza
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Oh, girls read them too, but the genre that's much more popular in that audience right now (at least globally) is either danmei (gay shit but with Chinese martial arts), or Wuxia type of stuff. They still consumed other genre, of course. The author for Redo of Healer, the infamous series with explicit rape and stuff in it, once revealed that the novel's anime adaptation has a rather high female audience
Like some have said, LN are short and easy to digest, both in narrative and structure. There are outliers of course, with more experimental authors like Nisio Isin and Ryohgo Narita, but most are very easy to follow
In Japan, LN nowadays have shift into the internet with publishers picking up popular webnovels to turn into traditional publishing format, especially after SAO turned into a money-printing IP. I'm much more surprised western publishing houses haven't experimented with this method
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Light novels are deliberately written to be simplistic and they lack detail to make the writing on the middle school level. It makes them very easy to read so they're great for kids or people who just want something quick and easy. It also helps that light novels tend to be about typical anime/videogame shit so they make good escapism.
And yeah there is some easy self-publishing system in Japan for light novels or webtoons that serve as a "slush pile" with the most popular ones being picked for manga or anime adaptations. Which is a double-edged sword since it allows the most popular stuff to be adapted, however a lot of the most popular stuff is already chasing trends of something else that was popular. This is why the "isekai" genre is derivative as hell and the market is so oversaturated.
I doubt western publishing will implement something similar anytime soon, because that would make it harder for their bullshit woke YA stories to be picked.
And yeah there is some easy self-publishing system in Japan for light novels or webtoons that serve as a "slush pile" with the most popular ones being picked for manga or anime adaptations. Which is a double-edged sword since it allows the most popular stuff to be adapted, however a lot of the most popular stuff is already chasing trends of something else that was popular. This is why the "isekai" genre is derivative as hell and the market is so oversaturated.
I doubt western publishing will implement something similar anytime soon, because that would make it harder for their bullshit woke YA stories to be picked.
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They're too busy chasing the coattails of whatever book series or cultural hot button issues are making money and getting attention. We do have the specialty presses like Viz and Yen Press that put out translated Japanese LN, but that's about it.
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Did some digging. Buckle up.When a lolcow closes one door, they open another.Although I'm still curious as to what she did that must've gotten her whacked by the twitter-stapo.
People are still mad about it.
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'Bragging about use of n-word'?
It must be absolutely exhausting to be these people.
Brilliant find. It's always nice to see the loudest scolds scolded back.
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Good catch. My brain shut down wading through that swill, so I'm not entirely sure (still) what the issue even is. And the scary part is I'm betting what is there is merely the tip of the iceberg.
TikTok as well.
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Oh man, it's always great to see the crybullies get sacrificed to the same beast that they fed others too. And the best part is almost none of them learn that you reap what you sow.
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tl;dr of the tweets: Black people fuss over the dark-skinned immigrant character from Squid Games being too passive/subservient. Cries that this is racist. Actual Asian person living in Asia points out that it's not because Asian countries need a "see, this dark-skinned person is capable of being nice and polite and isn't a thug" anti-racist message and this isn't a show made for Americans who are past that stage in being anti-racist. Same person also points out that the way non-Asians (specifically Americans) and Asian-Americans view Asian media through a very Western, Americanized lens which is entitled and wrong. The usual people reeeeeeeeeeee how dare you speak over black people doncha know The Black Experience trumps over everything (nevermind that the character isn't even black, he's South Asian). Actual Asian person living in Asia eventually breaks down and pours out an apology but we don't give a shit because she's the same bitch who gleefully held a pitchfork and was part of the mob against someone else.
Crybully Twitter is so exhausting. Every interaction is like dealing with an ambassador and saying something about one person or character is interpreted as saying that about ALL of that demographic. "White person So And So said something bad about Black character Such And Such (implying that the reason the character is disliked is because of racism and not because the character is a twat)." And despite Crybully Twitter having major overlap with book readers, these people have very little reading comprehension. "Durr you started off saying non-Asians but now you're saying it's Asian-Americans, you're just backpedaling" when it's clear she was expanding upon what she was saying if you bothered to read her second tweet after the first. This is also what makes Twitter the worst: its character limitation makes it difficult to fully articulate yourself in a single post, so people make mistakes or have to go into detail over a series of post, which leaves anything you say vulnerable for people to cherry pick in order to get assmad at.
And it's the same regurgitated sniveling, groveling apology each time. Blah blah lived experiences, blah blah do better. Anyone who really wants this type of apology needs to drink some raw sewage. The best/worst part is none of them will ever grow a brain and realize "hey maybe obsessing over idpol and callout culture is fucking retarded". It's all fun throwing chum in the water until you fall in and start bleeding.
Crybully Twitter is so exhausting. Every interaction is like dealing with an ambassador and saying something about one person or character is interpreted as saying that about ALL of that demographic. "White person So And So said something bad about Black character Such And Such (implying that the reason the character is disliked is because of racism and not because the character is a twat)." And despite Crybully Twitter having major overlap with book readers, these people have very little reading comprehension. "Durr you started off saying non-Asians but now you're saying it's Asian-Americans, you're just backpedaling" when it's clear she was expanding upon what she was saying if you bothered to read her second tweet after the first. This is also what makes Twitter the worst: its character limitation makes it difficult to fully articulate yourself in a single post, so people make mistakes or have to go into detail over a series of post, which leaves anything you say vulnerable for people to cherry pick in order to get assmad at.
And it's the same regurgitated sniveling, groveling apology each time. Blah blah lived experiences, blah blah do better. Anyone who really wants this type of apology needs to drink some raw sewage. The best/worst part is none of them will ever grow a brain and realize "hey maybe obsessing over idpol and callout culture is fucking retarded". It's all fun throwing chum in the water until you fall in and start bleeding.
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It’s almost like Twitter is a wasteland full of bunny boiling Borderline personalities who no sane person should even listen to, yet they’re given a voice.
I’ve said it a few times and I’ll say it again: Twitter is a BPD’s amusement park. The sooner the wider society realizes this, the less importance will be put on to the opinions of the average Twitterite
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When I read the description for that book, I thought it sounded less like a book and more like a pitch for a movie or a streaming series. It certainly fits the profile for current Hollywood.
Rezza
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Wasn't it known that sometimes some people made a film/tv series pitch by making it into another media first, like comic book? That might be the case here
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In my opinion it might be a bit too "online and in-jokey" as apparently giant swathes are about Twitter/Goodreads drama and completely self-referential.
I might (pirate) it purely for that, lol.
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Fortunato Brown
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Also just generally a weird choice for someone who got big from a fantasy series. But I guess she felt she "got that out of her system" and now can write capital I Important books that nobody wants to read. Are there any other such cases? RF Kuang did seem to low key resent her story which is why it got so boring by the third book as it abandoned all the fun stuff from book 1.
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There are a lot of writers who started in one genre and moved into another. Or even write in more than one.
While I'm not going to say it's "not" an achievement to do all this before the age of 30, it's a great deal of jumping around before becoming good at a particular genre. I think the publishers might be allowing her to do vanity projects with the hope she might go back to the bread-and-butter of fantasy. If they like an author (AKA author makes them money) they'll allow a lot of nonsense to get them to keep publishing with the publisher.
There might be an audience brought in from the YA Fantasy books, but will they stay for increasingly obscure adult literary fiction? All the reviews seem to be "boring until the last bit"
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Good grief. A really bad movie from 2014
is now (I assume) going to be a really bad TV show in 2022.
Hollywood still thinks it can make money off of YA novel adaptations like this, apparently.
FWIW, in the books Rose Hathaway's mother is from Scotland and her father is Turkish. So, you know what they did, because of course they did. Christian Ozera, who him being very pale and very blonde was kind of a minor plot point, is being played by .. a Korean. Or at any rate some flavor of Asian. At least Dmitri doesn't look like he's 47 like he did in the movie, so I guess it has that much going for it.
If the series gets that far (which I strongly doubt) I hope they make Sydney into a tranny. Because why not.
Not that I can whole-heartedly recommend Vampire Academy/Bloodlines to anyone, but I quite enjoyed the books, way more than any of the other teen vampire stuff that came out around Twilight. Which Vampire Academy technically preceded. Yeah, the last two Bloodlines books were stinkers but Richelle Mead did her research into Slavic and Balkan mythology and did some very credible world building to make the whole thing work. The silly romance stuff was something I kind of read around, honestly.
Sorry for the rant, but I wasn't sure where else to place this. I'm a bit surprised I can still be surprised by race swapping, honestly, but I was. I'll have to pirate the first episode and laugh.
is now (I assume) going to be a really bad TV show in 2022.
Hollywood still thinks it can make money off of YA novel adaptations like this, apparently.
FWIW, in the books Rose Hathaway's mother is from Scotland and her father is Turkish. So, you know what they did, because of course they did. Christian Ozera, who him being very pale and very blonde was kind of a minor plot point, is being played by .. a Korean. Or at any rate some flavor of Asian. At least Dmitri doesn't look like he's 47 like he did in the movie, so I guess it has that much going for it.
If the series gets that far (which I strongly doubt) I hope they make Sydney into a tranny. Because why not.
Not that I can whole-heartedly recommend Vampire Academy/Bloodlines to anyone, but I quite enjoyed the books, way more than any of the other teen vampire stuff that came out around Twilight. Which Vampire Academy technically preceded. Yeah, the last two Bloodlines books were stinkers but Richelle Mead did her research into Slavic and Balkan mythology and did some very credible world building to make the whole thing work. The silly romance stuff was something I kind of read around, honestly.
Sorry for the rant, but I wasn't sure where else to place this. I'm a bit surprised I can still be surprised by race swapping, honestly, but I was. I'll have to pirate the first episode and laugh.
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I’ve been really disappointed in the peacock version I saw so far. I loved the Vampire Academy books when I was younger and they still have a soft spot in my heart. I remember when they announced the plot of the series and it’s like Julie Plec wanted to make a show directed at everyone who called her racist for Vampire Diaries.
Natalie’s dad is now gay and black. Why.
Tatiana is black, so Adrian will probably also be black.
The show is shot in Spain and it’s like they thought the academy was in Europe and not fucking Montana. VA was neat for leaning into the slav stuff, not whatever this is.
It supposedly goes right into the Vampire Politics world, which. Why.
Some characters are going to be gay because the books weren’t straight enough when they came out 15 years ago. Who? You’ll have to watch to find out!
Tatiana is black, so Adrian will probably also be black.
The show is shot in Spain and it’s like they thought the academy was in Europe and not fucking Montana. VA was neat for leaning into the slav stuff, not whatever this is.
It supposedly goes right into the Vampire Politics world, which. Why.
Some characters are going to be gay because the books weren’t straight enough when they came out 15 years ago. Who? You’ll have to watch to find out!
I get so frustrated by Hollywood bending over backwards to make everyone gay POCs. Does the plot of the silly vampire books change that much with Black Rose? No. But it’s as if the show runners don’t believe in or value the source material enough to let the characters be the way they were written, which was fucking white. They’re Slavs. In a book based on Slavic mythology.
Like how is it that of all people, Stephenie Meyer was one of the few didn’t let Hollywood make her characters black. She imagined them white and got them white. And the Twilight movies are pretty faithful to the book. Imagine that.
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It's stupidity like this why YA adaptations and YA in general are on an increasing tailspin. I wish more authors told these execs to "fuck off, I wrote what I wrote and this is an adaptation of my work not yours" because to me there's nothing worse than a bastardization of something you put in some time and effort into no matter how awful it is.
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More Vampire Academy sperging
But he's the evil villain of the first book? Now a gay, black man? Assuming they come remotely close to following the book they'll get blowback for that. And I mean,yeah, there's so many black people out there named Daskhov.
BTW, according to IMDB there's nobody named Natalie never mind Natalie Dashkov in the cast. Not sure if this is IMDB being its usual unreliable self or if she's just not there.
There's also no Mia Rinaldi in the cast, but there is a Mia Karp. Meaning either this is a new character or she's now the daughter of the teacher driven crazy by Spirit. And there is a Sonia Karp in the cast.
HaHaHa, can't wait to pirate Vampire Wakanda now.
I could say a great deal more about the genetic isolation of both Moroi and Dhampir rendering this extremely improbable, but what's the point.
I don't recall a single gay character in either series until close to the end of Bloodlines, though it has been a long time. Or for that matter any Dhampir, never mind Moroi, described as black.
But he's the evil villain of the first book? Now a gay, black man? Assuming they come remotely close to following the book they'll get blowback for that. And I mean,yeah, there's so many black people out there named Daskhov.
BTW, according to IMDB there's nobody named Natalie never mind Natalie Dashkov in the cast. Not sure if this is IMDB being its usual unreliable self or if she's just not there.
There's also no Mia Rinaldi in the cast, but there is a Mia Karp. Meaning either this is a new character or she's now the daughter of the teacher driven crazy by Spirit. And there is a Sonia Karp in the cast.
HaHaHa, can't wait to pirate Vampire Wakanda now.
I could say a great deal more about the genetic isolation of both Moroi and Dhampir rendering this extremely improbable, but what's the point.
One of the cooler elements of the world building was how the vast majority of the Moroi were a weird version of Orthodox Christian. With their own saints, clergy, etc. I wonder if they'll pull that entirely from the show. Actually I'd bet on it at this point.
I don't recall a single gay character in either series until close to the end of Bloodlines, though it has been a long time. Or for that matter any Dhampir, never mind Moroi, described as black.