Aug 11 2022 - Case updated with "Waive right to indictment" and "transportation order" - Review scheduled for next year

[XYZpdq]

That guy should not be running a con.

seriously how in the fuck does "autism" count as an excuse for a con
that's the standard to get in, not the exception

 

[Yksi_Toveri]

The Finns proved that you can bike in the snow.

That's not saying much. Finns do everything in the snow.

Suomen kesä se on kaunis mutta vähäluminen. "The summer in Finland is beautiful, despite so little snow."

Maybe we should send Chris to Finland. The whole country is autistic and has a personal space requirement of 6 meters. If a stranger gets any closer than that, they get stabbed. Even 6 year old girls carry knives in Finland.

(Actual Finnish bus stop)

 

[My Name is Mud]

I just wanna say FUCK YOU JUDGE for blueballing us and making us turn this perfectly fine legal thread into a discussion about bikes.

 

[GypsyBard]

On a side note are we going to have a little celebration here for when Chris reaches 400 days in jail?
Just saying we all missed the whole one year mark maybe we should have at least one celebration thread or something when he reaches the big milestone of 400 Days

 

[Yksi_Toveri]

I just wanna say FUCK YOU JUDGE for blueballing us and making us turn this perfectly fine legal thread into a discussion about bikes.

Helkama and Pole are two top notch and sustainable bicycle makers with proven designs that can handle harsh winters in Tampere. The chain grease will seize in Ivalo around November to March, though.

 

[Blue Miaplacidus]

PoV you're a state employee and you tell jesus to stop shitting on his prayer rug.

ThEy hELd Me DoWn AnD ReCoRdEd My ScReAmS

 

[purpleflurp]

That's not saying much. Finns do everything in the snow.

Everything.

Can't really blame them when their country is nothing but snow and depression

 

[Super Guido]

Jesus Christ Chris is a fucking idiot

Also arrogant as hell. It blows my mind that he had the audacity to not just blame the dude who got him in, but give him a rating because of his own autistic inability to read between the lines.

 

[A-№1]

seriously how in the fuck does "autism" count as an excuse for a con
that's the standard to get in, not the exception

It's not like the lawyers (or the underwriters) give a fuck if a guest gets beaten with a bat held by an autist versus a normie. Liability is liability, and cons have enough of that already given even their better attendees.

Just allowing Chris to attend is a stretch, but letting him bring in his fucking baseball bat? And none of the organizers realized this was a bad idea? How the hell did Chris even justify it? Why would he need to bring a bat to a con? Is it his emotional support club?

Seriously, anyone who feels a need to bring a baseball bat to a con¹ should not be at the con. That should be basic knowledge for con organizers.

Maybe we should send Chris to Finland.

I would very much rather not piss off the Finns, thank you. That's a lesson the Russians learned the hard way.

Can't really blame them when their country is nothing but snow and depression

With an iron core of batshit insanity hiding just under the surface. They even have a word for it: "Sisu." It means: "Don't fuck with the Finns."

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Imagine if all that was cocaine.

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¹ That is not part of some baseball related cosplay, and even then it should be a wiffle bat.

 

[LiquidKid]

My brother has autism and he works at Wendy's
My cousin has down syndrome and she works on an assembly line at a factory
If you were to ask their coworkers about them they would say they're always on time work really hard and never miss a day
If anyone here were to meet them I'm sure everyone here would say but good hard working people

Does your brother impersonate Donald Duck to scare children?

 

[Yksi_Toveri]

Can't really blame them when their country is nothing but snow and depression

You forgot Death by Snu-Snu for Ivans.

Death by knife for Chris if he ever goes there and tries to befriend one of them.

And all the greatest memes.

So you need to:

 

[Deborah "Debbie" Grayson]

PoV you're a state employee and you tell jesus to stop shitting on his prayer rug.
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ThEy hELd Me DoWn AnD ReCoRdEd My ScReAmS

I can smell this photo and I don’t like it.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

That one is not statically stable. His poor sonichus and rosechus would get dumped out every time he got off it. He would need one of the tricycle models.

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The two wheeled ones have a large two-legged kickstand under the box, but it's Chris, so you're right.

There's an old saying: A hungry dog is an obedient dog, and a tired dog is a well behaved dog.

The point is not to starve Chris, just that he should earn his own food. In his entire life he has never, ever had to. Not even once. So let hunger motivate him to work, and the work will make him tired.

You're absolutely right. This would encourage Chris to do positive things.

Those countries are also very, very flat. Biking in, say, San Francisco is a whole different experience to biking in Amsterdam.

So is much of the US, and usually settlements are built in flat places even if the area is hilly, though yeah in hilly towns it's not really practical without ebikes.

Instead of creating all new paths and routes for bikes, they instead take away existing car infrastructure and hand it over to bikes. This is bound to cause resentment in drivers and also is a shitty deal for cyclists. For example they'll take a major four lane road and convert two lanes into exclusive bike lanes. This causes unnecessary congestion (and resentment) on the now two lane road while directing bicycles onto a major artery.

Cities in those countries have done precisely this. They had a big car buildout with multi-lane roads in the mid-20th century, but then in the late 20th they started to revert this and intentionally slow down roads to keep the towns friendly for human beings.

The compromise is that there is usually a large route for cars that lets you get somewhat close, usually skirting the area, leaving the local streets intentionally nerfed to cars. (For instance a lot of streets that used to be multi-lane were converted to single-lane streets just wide enough for cars to slow down and carefully pass each other). Or just remove the auto traffic entirely.

 

[A-№1]

Trying to move this back into this thread from the JailFAQ.

Cities in those countries have done precisely this. They had a big car buildout with multi-lane roads in the mid-20th century, but then in the late 20th they started to revert this and intentionally slow down roads to keep the towns friendly for human beings.

Sort of. Those cities were originally designed (or grew organically) for pedestrian and equestrian traffic, then were heavily modified (sometimes by German artillery) to accommodate cars. Changing them back to their original state is not the same as taking a city designed around automobiles and forcing it to accommodate bicycles alongside the cars.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Sort of. Those cities were originally designed (or grew organically) for pedestrian and equestrian traffic, then were heavily modified (sometimes by German artillery) to accommodate cars. Changing them back to their original state is not the same as taking a city designed around automobiles and forcing it to accommodate bicycles alongside the cars.

Most US settlements from the great plains east (and some to the west, not every place is Phoenix) were also designed before common automobile ownership. They then took classic towns took their own non-German artillery to them (in the form of bulldozers) and new growth attached suburbs to them. This happened in Europe too, post WW2, it's just many places in Europe chose to reverse that trend in the 90's.

To bring this back around to how this relates to Chris, Charlottesville could be reverted to a place that Chris could get around by bicycle easily and safely, with the post-WW2 parts refitted.

 

[Jon Osterman]

Just allowing Chris to attend is a stretch, but letting him bring in his fucking baseball bat? And none of the organizers realized this was a bad idea? How the hell did Chris even justify it? Why would he need to bring a bat to a con? Is it his emotional support club?

Chris justified it with the delusional idea that trolls would try to assault him (I don't remember if he said in that case specifically, but he has talked about having others for protection when going to other cons). Considering the hair trigger he showed in the Game Stop incident, the organizers should feel very lucky that no weens approached him yelling JULAAAAY or he may have preemptively swung.

 

[Nurse Ratchet]

How the fuck did they let him in with that? They throw shitfits over even foam rubber cosplay swords.

He got away with a lot more than the plastic peacemaker at this thing.

He was given a real long leash at this event, & some of that was prearranged. He knew this, so of course, it empowered him to ramp the creeptarding up to 11 & run around the venue & parking lot pretending he doesn't know "the rules" about inappropriate physical contact (I'm not asserting that he understands or cares why they exist, just that he's well aware where most of them are), & I guess one designation of the people he got kissy/handsy with were unbothered, not offended, or they just shook off their douche chills because he's a mental defective. Others set him up to get him to slobber on them in Twatter selfies, or (more likely) just lied to the runners to try & get him thrown out. But then you had the people who (rightfully) felt molested to a point where they felt it best to tell the people in charge.

He probably did a host of other obnoxious & entitled shit that I've long forgotten, but they let him run rampant for like.. maybe a whole day? Day & a half? Before they were like yeah fuck this shit & yeeted him. (I'm not fucked to go back & look but @Mariposa Electrique probably remembers some of the non groping-related highlights he shat out that weekend.)

And that picture is what happens when you try to tell that gigantic mantoddler that he can't have his toy. It was fucking rad. One of the VERY few things he ever did that I got to see in realtime within the time I paid any attention to him that ever actually made me laugh.. The shortbus of lulz had long left the bus stop by the time I hopped on. My constitution came to a screeching halt when he started in with the ultra megalomania deity trash. Too irritating for my delicate sensibilities.

And then he serial raped his octogenarian mother.

 

[A-№1]

Most US settlements from the great plains east (and some to the west, not every place is Phoenix) were also designed before common automobile ownership.

Only in what are now the very central cores of the modern American cities, and a lot of them were still designed in the 1800s around streetcars and wagon traffic. It's a shame most streetcar systems were ripped out last century. Apart from a very few examples like New York, hyper urbanization came very, VERY late to North America, and didn't really kick off into the big leagues until the mid 20th century. Modern American suburbs (which have supplanted most city cores) developed alongside automobiles, and largely would not have even been possible without them.

Compare that to some European cities that are literally thousands of years old.

Chris justified it with the delusional idea that trolls would try to assault him

But you'd have to be equally insane to go along with that and let him bring his bat into the con. I mean I know cons can have low standards, but there are limits. Or at least there should be.

Were they really that desperate to have him attend?

he may have preemptively swung.

I would like to think they would have at least had the sense to have handlers watching him constantly, and that they would have tackled Chris while he was still struggling to pull the bat from his back. He's hardly likely to be a master of iaibatsu. But then we're talking about idiots who would let him bring in a bat in the first place.

He got away with a lot more than the plastic peacemaker at this thing.

Plastic? It looks like a metal bat in those pics. Trust Chris not to do the right thing and use a wooden bat.

 

[Jon Osterman]

But you'd have to be equally insane to go along with that and let him bring his bat into the con. I mean I know cons can have low standards, but there are limits. Or at least there should be.

Were they really that desperate to have him attend?


I would like to think they would have at least had the sense to have handlers watching him constantly, and that they would have tackled Chris while he was still struggling to pull the bat from his back. He's hardly likely to be a master of iaibatsu. But then we're talking about idiots who would let him bring in a bat in the first place.

Found this DM from Silverman on the Farms. At the bottom it says he thought Chris would be an issue, but also thought it'd be fine because of how he conducted himself at Magfest. And to be fair, TMG was the only time Chris acted like that at a con (he got close before but no kissing). Main takeaway is that they probably didn't have anyone watching him, least not on the first day. Why they let him have the bat is still anyone's guess, maybe they too thought trolls would attack him or that he'd be too stupid to use it properly.

 

[A-№1]

And to be fair, TMG was the only time Chris acted like that at a con (he got close before but no kissing).

Chris' bad behavior always escalates. All you can count on is his behavior at a con will be worse than his behavior at the last one. Eventually he would have done something to get ejected, or worse. Why risk that happening at your own con? The organizers were taking a hideous risk.

Why they let him have the bat is still anyone's guess, maybe they too thought trolls would attack him or that he'd be too stupid to use it properly.

ANY use of the bat, trolls or not, properly or not, would have landed them and the con in extreme hot water. Surely their attorney or insurer would have told them that, but they must have been too stupid to ask.

I doubt even today they understand just how lucky they were.