Aug 11 2022 - Case updated with "Waive right to indictment" and "transportation order" - Review scheduled for next year

[Phalanges Mycologist]

In the Netherlands there it's a kind of cargo bike called bakfiets (literally "box bicycle") that is a daily driver for people who carry groceries, etc. or to transport their kids around town. In cities it's the most common way to transport small children.

It would be the perfect vehicle for Chris to cart his sonichus and rosechus around.

I've got a Bike with a Trailer and been considering a Bakfiets after my Collage bought a few for general use and they are a great short distance (3 miles is my longest ride on one on country lanes on a non electric version) and it's a viable option for Chris especially if he had a e-bike version.

They are easy to ride even if your moderately fit (I'm a tall not exactly svelte guy, who smokes far more than he should and I can ride them without issue as I said) so Chris would only have to put in a bit off effort and there in lies the stumbling block - Effort is something he will only put in if he REALLY desires something and he will try an cut corners where ever he can, the next is cost those things are not exactly cheap a non e-bike version can start around £1k and go up drastically from there.

He'd be better off with a normal bike, panniers, front rack and backpack for cargo I know a guy who lives in a Rural area and uses it as his main mode of transport with that kind of set up.

/bike sperging.

To dissuade Chris from doing shitty things, starving him will not work. It has to be an immediate, sharp consequence, applied with such surety that he reflexively avoids the behavior even after that surety is gone years later.

Yep you have to have an immediate negative reinforcement applied constantly and consistantly and he would have to be punished for trying to game the system or actions he's been asked to carry out or he will try and get creative.

I wonder if Chris has ever gotten a real betting in his life, you know the kind that leaves you in the floor coughing up teeth & and unable to remember what happened, all you know is that is happened.

Nope never, the closest he's ever had was a scuffle on the bus that made him take the short bus from then on, BUT an I have to stress this a beating wouldnt get him to behave - he's already got stock excuses handy like "they hate me because im {fill in the blank}". He never got into worse in school as even kids have standards and nobody wants to be the guy known for kicking the Tards head in and he was also self segregating for the most part and hung around safe locations i.e. ones with teachers or his galpals to reduce that risk even more.

Yeah, you ain't kidding. I mean, with a little knowledge of Deutsch this sentence from the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle is almost readable: "Ond þon ilcan geare worhte se foresprecena here geweorc be Liggean .xx. mila bufan Lundenbyrig." (AD 896) By contrast, Middle English is almost always readable (although you'll invariably fuck up the pronunciation).

Oddly enough working and and around old trades gives you a real education on old English, lot's of words and terms are still used from Old and Anglo-Saxon English.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

This pic is great, euro wammin get shit done, they can look hot while driving their kids around on a bike,
however I do hope that bulge in her pants in the bike seat

It's mostly a Netherlands/Denmark thing. Those are the countries that adopted biking-as-everyday-transportation the most. Other Northern European countries do it to varying degrees.

The Finns proved that you can bike in the snow.

American think that to ride anywhere you have to be a spandex warrior. The helmet thing is mostly because the bike infrastructure sucks, as biking at a normal speed without hazards doesn't really require a helmet. The helmet comes more into play when you're biking at high speeds or risk being thrown across someone's windshield (though in a direct hit from a car anything short of a full brain bucket isn't gonna save ya).

Nope never, the closest he's ever had was a scuffle on the bus that made him take the short bus from then on, BUT an I have to stress this a beating wouldnt get him to behave - he's already got stock excuses handy like "they hate me because im {fill in the blank}". He never got into worse in school as even kids have standards and nobody wants to be the guy known for kicking the Tards head in and he was also self segregating for the most part and hung around safe locations i.e. ones with teachers or his galpals to reduce that risk even more.

Handy excuses only work for rationalizations.

Immediate cause and effect pain bypasses all of that. If you get seriously wounded being bitten by a dog, you can rationalize about leash laws all you want, but your monkey brain will still make you more careful around dogs.

Any consequences Chris has faced in his life are sociological. Behavior modification from that requires rational thought. Having your pain nerve endings fire uncontrollably does not.

Going back to the dog bites, you can rationalize all you want about "this is a friendly dog, the owner has told me he's a sweetheart". Primal instinct from the trauma kicks in and you will still be afraid of that dog and give it a wide berth.

Training Chris would involve relying on that. If he got his shit kicked in anytime he tried to serve his desires he'd stop being so self-serving. That also means he wouldn't be self-serving even when society would be perfectly okay with it (like petting the friendly dog), but that would still be an improvement.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

It's mostly a Netherlands/Denmark thing. Those are the countries that adopted biking-as-everyday-transportation the most. Other Northern European countries do it to varying degrees.

The Finns proved that you can bike in the snow.

American think that to ride anywhere you have to be a spandex warrior. The helmet thing is mostly because the bike infrastructure sucks, as biking at a normal speed without hazards doesn't really require a helmet. The helmet comes more into play when you're biking at high speeds or risk being thrown across someone's windshield (though in a direct hit from a car anything short of a full brain bucket isn't gonna save ya).

Most other EU countries and the UK have always been more bike friendly than the US, the UK is building more miles of dedicated cycle paths and road lanes than anywhere else (or so it's claimed) and it's always made me wonder why Americans seem so hostile to Bikes in general you guy's have the space for an amazing cycling infrastructure where outside of City's Cars and Bikes need not meet often.

I'd say everyone should ware a helmet though, I'd rather be safe than risk wacking my noggin on something should I come off it but thats just me.

Handy excuses only work for rationalizations.

Immediate cause and effect pain bypasses all of that. If you get seriously wounded being bitten by a dog, you can rationalize about leash laws all you want, but your monkey brain will still make you more careful around dogs.

Any consequences Chris has faced in his life are sociological. Behavior modification from that requires rational thought. Having your pain nerve endings fire uncontrollably does not.

Going back to the dog bites, you can rationalize all you want about "this is a friendly dog, the owner has told me he's a sweetheart". Primal instinct from the trauma kicks in and you will still be afraid of that dog and give it a wide berth.

Training Chris would involve relying on that. If he got his shit kicked in anytime he tried to serve his desires he'd stop being so self-serving. That also means he wouldn't be self-serving even when society would be perfectly okay with it (like petting the friendly dog), but that would still be an improvement.

We already know how Chris would handle it he's go running to mummy crying call animal control and have it put down (or so he claims) like that cat.

The problem is though it needs to be a lesson that's renforced regularly or Chris forgets it or ignores his past experiance, so he would put himself back into that situation time and again, just look at how many "Theioretical Ex-Girlfriends" he's bene through doing the exact same stuff over and again Chris rationalises and justifys things to himself with incredible speed.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

The problem is though it needs to be a lesson that's renforced regularly or Chris forgets it or ignores his past experiance, so he would put himself back into that situation time and again, just look at how many "Theioretical Ex-Girlfriends" he's bene through doing the exact same stuff over and again Chris rationalises and justifys things to himself with incredible speed.

Again, that hurt Chris, but it was social pain. The pain came entirely from his thoughts, and Chris forgets the thoughts. There was also a big lag time between when he first started talking to them and when he actually got hurt.

If every time he talked to a girl online, and if said girl turned out to be right outside 14BC and rushed in and tore off his fingernails, he'd be a lot more fearful. Immediate cause and effect, and simple stimuli rather than social stimuli that Chris can easily forget.

That's the kind of shit you don't forget even if you're not thinking about it.

 

[ThatOneAsshole]

Again, that hurt Chris, but it was social pain. The pain came entirely from his thoughts, and Chris forgets the thoughts. There was also a big lag time between when he first started talking to them and when he actually got hurt.

If every time he talked to a girl online, and if said girl turned out to be right outside 14BC and rushed in and tore off his fingernails, he'd be a lot more fearful. Immediate cause and effect, and simple stimuli rather than social stimuli that Chris can easily forget.

That's the kind of shit you don't forget even if you're not thinking about it.

He has a goldfish's memory ability

 

[Pointless Sperg]

He has a goldfish's memory ability

You can train a goldfish. You can train Chris.

You can't *reason* with either of them.

 

[anti SJW]

Didn't Chris have a bike, but never used it because according to Him. It was too much work to petal?

 

[ChooChooChooseMe]

This pic is great, euro wammin get shit done, they can look hot while driving their kids around on a bike,
however I do hope that bulge in her pants is the bike seat

The Dutch just do trannies better than we do. No shame in giving credit where it's due

 

[Jon Osterman]

Training Chris would involve relying on that. If he got his shit kicked in anytime he tried to serve his desires he'd stop being so self-serving. That also means he wouldn't be self-serving even when society would be perfectly okay with it (like petting the friendly dog), but that would still be an improvement.

What kind of force can they legally use on Chris in the tard home? They can't just beat the shit out of him every time he tries to sneak in a new toy right?

 

[axeltrite]

What kind of force can they legally use on Chris in the tard home? They can't just beat the shit out of him every time he tries to sneak in a new toy right?

I can only imagine they would send him back to jail or make him homeless if he refuses to do any chores around the home or if he harasses any other residents. As for toys, I can't imagine they would give too much of a shit.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Didn't Chris have a bike, but never used it because according to Him. It was too much work to petal?

Going theory is he stopped riding it because he fell off an got a scrape - Personally I think that he just aged out of his last bike (that he didn't use often) and when he lived in Midlothian had no where to put one or a real need for one so just stopped riding it and then got a Car negating any use he'd have for a bike.

What kind of force can they legally use on Chris in the tard home? They can't just beat the shit out of him every time he tries to sneak in a new toy right?

If it's anything like in the UK it's to protect him, and others if he becomes violent, and limited self defence if he just flat out assaulted them, and they are supposed to call the police, they will also call the legal team responsible for his case and get him sent back to prison or a more secure facility.

They are prevented from just slapping him because he's not doing what he should be doing, or if he's just being a uncooperative idiot.

 

[A-№1]

Mentioning someone's name isn't "doxing" them

But it does make them subject to doxxing.

It would be the perfect vehicle for Chris to cart his sonichus and rosechus around.

That one is not statically stable. His poor sonichus and rosechus would get dumped out every time he got off it. He would need one of the tricycle models.

I find it amusing that we're already working out details for the inevitable bag lady saga.

Hunger is a good motivator to do something that you know will get you food. It is a terrible punishment to prevent a behavior. When you want to punish a dog, starving it will not do any good as it can't associate its lack of food with the action that caused it. It does not prevent negative behavior.

I'm not talking about specific behaviors, but more about general demeanor.

There's an old saying: A hungry dog is an obedient dog, and a tired dog is a well behaved dog.

The point is not to starve Chris, just that he should earn his own food. In his entire life he has never, ever had to. Not even once. So let hunger motivate him to work, and the work will make him tired.

FWIW, we've seen how effective Borb was at training dogs.

It's mostly a Netherlands/Denmark thing. Those are the countries that adopted biking-as-everyday-transportation the most.

Those countries are also very, very flat. Biking in, say, San Francisco is a whole different experience to biking in Amsterdam.

The Finns proved that you can bike in the snow.

That's not saying much. Finns do everything in the snow.

Everything.

it's always made me wonder why Americans seem so hostile to Bikes in general

Too many cities implement bike infrastructure stupidly. Very stupidly. Instead of creating all new paths and routes for bikes, they instead take away existing car infrastructure and hand it over to bikes. This is bound to cause resentment in drivers and also is a shitty deal for cyclists. For example they'll take a major four lane road and convert two lanes into exclusive bike lanes. This causes unnecessary congestion (and resentment) on the now two lane road while directing bicycles onto a major artery. How does that help anyone? Instead they should make the bike route one or two streets over on quieter side streets where bicycles neither impact car traffic or are impacted (literally) by it (and don't have to breath all that exhaust). But bicycle minded city planners somehow think that's not "fair", so they throw bicycles and cars together like idiots.

What kind of force can they legally use on Chris in the tard home?

They deny him privileges like television etc. If he chimps out because of this, they call the police. Then the deferred disposition ends and it's off to Marion with Chris.

 

[Lancelot]

The prevailing opinion among psychiatric professionals is that being trans is not a mental disorder. Or if it is, the treatment is to go along with it. Note I said “prevailing opinion.” We’ve all heard the opinions to the contrary.

Chris’s duck isn’t welcome among women, but no one is going to force him to live as a man.

" prevailing opinion" even thats not exactly clear. Remember transexuality was still considered a mental disorder up until a few years ago. It's not like a switch flipped and suddenly 99.999 percent of the field changed their opinion.

The change in definition came in the wake of an onslaught of political pressure. If you look rawly at what constitutes a mental disorder ; gender dysphoria clearly fits it.

 

[Shovel Mech Pilot]

I think we're right I think it's related to some kind of suspended or deferred sentence.

No way. The case information online doesn't indicate any suspended or deferred sentence. He's still in custody.

 

[Blue Miaplacidus]

Then Chris started carrying around a baseball bat

He never learns that assault is wrong just assault with certain weapons is wrong. There's no doubt in my mind that if I were to switch the order of things and give him a baseball bat at GameStop instead of pepper spray he would have swung at the guy.
It is because of this I truly do believe Chris is a danger to himself and others

He was planning on bringing it to everfree too. He think's it's completely socially acceptable and normal to walk around with a baseball bat in public gatherings for protection. Then again, he also believed a demon possessed retarded faggot was going to be there conjuring evil to destroy his imaginary toon town and rectum.

I'm pretty sure he was carrying around some kind of bat as well, though that could be some bleeding from what I recall of ADF's trans arsenal. Fuck we've been following these weirdos for so long.

Yes, he brought it to toomanygames IIRC, and was planning on bringing it to everfree. He upgraded after the pepper spray.

 

[ChooChooChooseMe]

But it does make them subject to doxxing.




That one is not statically stable. His poor sonichus and rosechus would get dumped out every time he got off it. He would need one of the tricycle models.

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I find it amusing that we're already working out details for the inevitable bag lady saga.




I'm not talking about specific behaviors, but more about general demeanor.

There's an old saying: A hungry dog is an obedient dog, and a tired dog is a well behaved dog.

The point is not to starve Chris, just that he should earn his own food. In his entire life he has never, ever had to. Not even once. So let hunger motivate him to work, and the work will make him tired.

FWIW, we've seen how effective Borb was at training dogs.




Those countries are also very, very flat. Biking in, say, San Francisco is a whole different experience to biking in Amsterdam.



That's not saying much. Finns do everything in the snow.

Everything.




Too many cities implement bike infrastructure stupidly. Very stupidly. Instead of creating all new paths and routes for bikes, they instead take away existing car infrastructure and hand it over to bikes. This is bound to cause resentment in drivers and also is a shitty deal for cyclists. For example they'll take a major four lane road and convert two lanes into exclusive bike lanes. This causes unnecessary congestion (and resentment) on the now two lane road while directing bicycles onto a major artery. How does that help anyone? Instead they should make the bike route one or two streets over on quieter side streets where bicycles neither impact car traffic or are impacted (literally) by it (and don't have to breath all that exhaust). But bicycle minded city planners somehow think that's not "fair", so they throw bicycles and cars together like idiots.




They deny him privileges like television etc. If he chimps out because of this, they call the police. Then the deferred disposition ends and it's off to Marion with Chris.

I want to see him with a Filipino jeepney just to see how absolutely gaudy he can make it plus plenty of room for toys. They're built like tanks, but mercy on any poor people who get confused and hop in for a ride not knowing the terrors within

 

[A-№1]

Yes, he brought it to toomanygames

How the fuck did they let him in with that? They throw shitfits over even foam rubber cosplay swords.

I want to see him with a Filipino jeepney

It would be a rusted out frame by the side of the road in short order. As would anything requiring maintenance.

Maybe a rickshaw for his toys? Actually, who are we kidding? It'll be a shopping trolley for Chris. filled with toys and crap. Why deviate from the classics?

 

[Blue Miaplacidus]

How the fuck did they let him in with that? They throw shitfits over even foam rubber cosplay swords.

He had contact with the AVGN/The Room guy who was an organizer who let him slide because autism, but with a warning

 

[Penis]

He had contact with the AVGN/The Room guy who was an organizer who let him slide because autism, but with a warning
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Jesus Christ Chris is a fucking idiot

 

[A-№1]

He had contact with the AVGN/The Room guy who was an organizer who let him slide because autism, but with a warning

That guy should not be running a con.