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Somehow I knew earlier when that Silvervale quote was posted it was going to get nitpicked to the extent that people just miss the point and get defensive over it.

What she said is, generally speaking, true, and not really much of an insult or shot taken at Hololive. it's more just noting a difference.

When the Vtuber boom happened in 2020 in the west, it was more or less Hololive front and center. A lot of western viewers entire idea of what a vtuber is came from hololive (even though in reality hololive's way of doing things isn't representative of the majority of even Japanese vtubers)

What that interview response is saying is just that there was a point of realization of "oh you don't have to do everything like hololive does you can talk about anything without having to make it a big deal or a concern"

like yeah there's some examples of hololive talking about family, or kobo about her ex, but the point being made wasn't "heh we talk about this and they don't" it was "we don't have to worry about talking about that" which, sorry if anyones in denial on that front, but hololive does, every person you've seen have their mom on in hololive probably went through several steps of managerial approval to do so, Kobo's manager probably shit the bed when Kobo talked about her ex, and just imagine the shitshow that would ensue if a JP girl did that. They have their moms on but notice how it's still kept a unicorn sanctuary and no ones ever had their dad on? closest thing might be Matsuri at one point having her littler brother on alongside her mom once.

Either way all that worrying about subject matter, managerial hoops and bureaucracy, that's what Silver's addressing in that comment, If nyanners wants to stream with her bf, she just does, of someone wants to have family members in stream or break the fourth wall of their character setting freely, they just do (and if you think hololive doesn't get told to stick to kayfabe to some extent, I assure you Calli doesn't avoid saying she taught English instead saying "scythe swinging lessons" without there being some kind of instruction to avoid such topics, it's just not in her personality to obfuscate that way without a reason and comes off exactly like the thin vaneer of Demondice talking about her "restaurant job"). Just imagine the meltdown that would occur if one day unannounced and uncleared by her manager, Pekora fired up her stream with a male voice alongside her and she just said "hey guys this is my dad, today we're going to talk about a funny story about him and my ex boyfriend" she'd be put on break from streaming within hours whereas for Vshojo it would just be another Tuesday.

At any rate, It's not a big deal to note those differences between the companies, about the only real criticism I could give for the comparison is that it's usually bad form to name drop that company you're comparing yourself to and she probably should have avoided outright saying Hololive because it sparks things like the discussion happening here taking her as attacking hololive in some way, and it's usually just unwise to do that sort of stuff with companies you may want to work with in the future.
She could just have regurgitated the stupid "talent freedom" nonsense without taking direct shots at a competitor, no matter how true or untrue something is, this kind of shit will only fan the flames of tribalfaggotry and get on the bad side of everyone who likes hololive (which is a big percentage of the western fanbase), i would not defend this shit if it came from gura, vox or any other big names in the industry. Also, half her statement is bs, the only part which is even somewhat true is the relationship part.
You know you fucked up when even reddit (who mostly sided with vshojo in the nux drama) is unanimously against your point, i do think it's a nothingburger but i don't think it's "well and good because she has a point".
 
I don't watch Lia, so I only knew about her drinking streams through the thread. Based solely on that, it's no surprise. We joke about Phase being a sad girl company and all the talents being menhera, but she really takes the cake.
Fishman only steps in if it's causing problems with the talent or the company, otherwise they can do whatever within reason. The drinking streams weren't good for her.

But it's okay. If she keeps falling down the Chris Chan hole, there'll still be more nuked streams to come. I'm sure the drinking streams are still archived somewhere.

She could just have regurgitated the stupid "talent freedom" nonsense without taking direct shots at a competitor, no matter how true or untrue something is, this kind of shit will only fan the flames of tribalfaggotry and get on the bad side of everyone who likes hololive (which is a big percentage of the western fanbase), i would not defend this shit if it came from gura, vox or any other big names in the industry. Also, half her statement is bs, the only part which is even somewhat true is the relationship part.
Probably doesn't help that hololive are fine with vshojo collabs (minus veibae and Melody) so they feel fine to name drop them thinking there's no consequences.
 
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Also in regards to the recent vshoujo interview, hasn't Altare talked about having an ex a couple of times?
 
or relationship because kobo talk about her ex in detail,yes she is ID but still the "hololive" what she talk about.
They're the big name in the industry, and people love jerking off over underdog stories. They're a Jap company that operates on Japanese business culture, which at times is absolutely retarded, but people refuse to accept that different regions and cultures do things differently, and generally don't have any perspective outside of US/Western European culture. People also really love falling for the "talent freedom" meme, because they haven't actually seen a Hololive stream beyond like 30 seconds of Gura, and for whatever reason assume they all behave like either pure JP idoru uguuu, or nuns.
i believe each branch has its own rule to adjust, such as EN to NOT ABLE COLLAB WITH NIJISANJI EN for some dumb reason. aside of that, its just the talent try not to push their luck to do something new or not want their audience gone wild.

Kobo probably that I know so far in Holo, to freely talk about her ex, her boy type (although it ends up her ideal type is edgy sasuke like) and her audience actually fine with it, even most dono try to bait her to say something like i love you in ID or tease her. and i think management doesn't bonk her because the audience take it positively.

Then again besides "talent freedom" there is a lot shit we don't know behind the scene unless the talent talks about it. because most just said "i have to work on something" and you can't see the result until like 3-6 months after they talking about it.

Personally, just take it as "VTuber" is an introduction to each talent, if you like it, and later the talent left the agency and goes indie, you know what to expect
 
Pippa messed up the audio in multiple different ways, off to a good start already.

Pippa also sounds much more mumbly than before, I bet all the stress on her mouth from streaming is starting to show.
 
Good news, kiwibuckos. Amiya isn't a furry :story:
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Of course she isn't.
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And Pippa shot her own dick off already.

And she killed a rando just doing his day job before being merc'ed.
 
Also, half her statement is bs, the only part which is even somewhat true is the relationship part.
I wouldn't even give her that. Cover was really clear that the only relationship they forbid is with management, which is just a standard business practice. They were completely fine with Rushia being in a relationship and even backed her on that with a public statement.

They have their moms on but notice how it's still kept a unicorn sanctuary and no ones ever had their dad on? closest thing might be Matsuri at one point having her littler brother on alongside her mom once.
Pretty sure Irys has had her dad on
 
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