Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Stanley Ipkiss]

How the fuck does he constantly sound like he's never had an actual human relationship ever. Like, he has. He should have some understanding of how interactions with others go. Or maybe, he thinks that everybody else in the world is dumb enough that he can just exaggerate and confabulate as much as he pleases without anyone noticing...

His constant lies about things that can be easily verified indicate to me that this is the case.


Also just as a general note while we're analyzing this "exit interview" malarkey:
Olly is a prolific embellisher, so this exit interview stuff is likely a lie.

Remember the main idea he wanted to get across to the group chat was that he lied about oysters (because he's so relatable and wacky uwu), but then his "friends" were intrigued by the exit interview comment, and (I believe) he just ran with it:
"Oh you guys don't do that? I always do it in all my relationships."

Bullfuckingshit! Remember all of his known past relationships and how none of them seem to even acknowledge he exists now? Remember fucking Contrapoints and his utter disdain for Olly? We're supposed to believe Olly had a "mature and honest" discussion post-breakup with all of em? And yet they all still seem to hate his guts?
Again, bullfuckingshit!!! It's just Olly being Olly again. I don't think "exit interview" says anything about him other than that he loves to exaggerate/lie.


Also, also.....................do you guys think Claire is in that groupchat? Given how much he polices Claire's own social media, it wouldn't surprise me that he keeps [her] out of it. But then again she might be in it and Olly might just be insensitive enough to talk about this kinda stuff with [her] there, and then post it on Twitter for the world to see.

 

[EdiblePanties]

He covered some interesting points that had been written by other people. I'm amused that I managed to call some of the beats of the video.

The video itself was insufferable. Ollie spent a lot of time grifting (the orange dress segment? Barely a segment, he was mostly talking about his play - BTW take a shot every time he says "my play"). He kept trying to force memes in a more annoying way than normal. At one point he mentions people asking him to write down his main points and reading them out without all "this extra stuff" (aka theatrical overproduction), which might have improved the video - although it was pretty rambling. Every explanatory analogy was about his play, his career as an actress, his famous friends (allusions to Contra breaking up with him and also he's waving around a Nabokov book), him being trans and him being a desirable "lesbian".

He also affected his pseudo-vulnerability by talking about being insecure about his ability to interpret art because he used to go out with an art historian, who I guess he decided to skin walk today.

He also had the nerve to just rock up to the Tate Britain and start filming. He ends his segment in front of an unrelated Rothko so I like to think he got moved on from the meditative gallery. He also talked about thinking about his ex-girlfriend and Spiderman 2 when he looked at Rothko, which makes me worried next time I see a Rothko I'll think of Ollie, and he's ruined Rothko for me

Oh and his Picasso "look" is even worse in motion. I'm ashamed to admit I did get a laugh out of the line "People say Picasso is asking the big questions like... what if there was a really fucked up looking woman?"

I'll give him this, he did take a genuine creative risk by praising David Mamet's play Race, which he did do with a lot of caveats but it still is surprising.

JFC I can't believe he put in a commerical for his stupid play in the video.

Does he ever put out a video where he doesn't bring up an ex-girlfriend?

Wat? Seriously? I'm a lesbian but I guess I just don't have enough female friends in order to be aware of this. Maybe this is part of why I don't, I can't stand that kind of thing from people whatsoever, either be candid with me or go home, my relentless overly-literal autism brain will have an aneurysm otherwise.

Also "pansexual" is still a thing, if anything it's way more en vogue than being a cishomo currently is. Having a biological sex preference is passe.

I used to jokely flirt with my lesbian and gay pals - even my straight friends - but now I only do so with the ones who understand its a joke. I stopped in bigger groups due to a trans thinking I was as really flirting and becoming creepy and obsessive towards me.

Who-ever jokingly flirted to Ollie should avoid doing it again as he obviously didn't get it wasn't real flirting.

https://twitter.com/PhilosophyTube/status/1560999926527508480?cxt=HHwWgICqsbTK5KkrAAAA

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Great reporting. I was just about to post these. I had two major thoughts upon seeing these tweets:

1. Olly has zero friends outside of this circle of fellow degenerates that he barely even sees in person. What a sad existence.

2. Where the fuck is the "absolute roasting"?

Olly: I lied about liking Oysters
Everyone else: You deal with breakups pretty well. I am a colossal fuckup.
Olly: Omg y'all are absolutely roasting me.

While this may seem like another example of his poor understanding of normal human behaviour, I think it's him just fishing for compliments, similar to how attention whore thots will post a selfie with a caption like "Having a bad hair day. Feeling ugly af".
Gotta remember our boy is a narcissist first and foremost. He would never willingly post anything that (he thinks) would allow others to mock him. I don't buy that he legitimately believes that a convo where everyone else is praising him for being mature is remotely similar to him being roasted. He just wants some asspats. And judging from the replies, it's working. My goodness his fans are pathetic.

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This reads like he has his partner sign an NDA.
The returning gifts thing is a little weird to me. It's a gift, why would you even ask for it back? Isnt this the same bloke who demanded Contrapoints give back a sweater because he was a pissy asshole about the breakup?
All his exes seem to hate him so I doubt these breakups are as civil as he is pretending they were.

Wtf- in that picture, his eyes ARE literally on different levels now?
How tf does surgery end up botching up THAT ?

I can’t believe all the troons who say he makes them feel shut about their comparative transitions for how good he looks, in his very specifically coordinated pic releases from literal photos shoots. Coke on guys, you must know the game being played right in front of you?


Also- gross, the idea of Olly nudes.
Do you suppose we are the stalkers?
Or he has actual proper ones? He did say soemthing about someone trying to find out where he lived from his PO Box or something ..

Did u notice when the group chat convo veered away for a second “if you heat oysters you die” Tube utterly ignored it so as to firmly and immediately grab the steering wheel back selfwards?

Imagine the sort of person who gets in a relationship with Tube- such as it were..especially now
He’s so odd about even friendships (has seemingly no actual real ones) that even getting into it would be weird- I’m not surpass it’s so contractual sounding actually

The eye thing is something I keep pointing out as its so utterly weird! Most faces are slightly asymmetrical, but his irises are off now too. Its strange and I dontknow if it's a botched surgery or something else hes got going on.
And if he considers us stalkers he is a fool. We jus make fun of the stuff he puts out publiclyAnd - rarely - discus about how claire can do far better and is too good for the Ollie

As for the oyster thing - I wish he hadn't redirected the convo to be about himself again. I need to know the logic on not heating oysters. Do they not cook oysters ever in the UK? Have they never heard of garlic butter baked oysters or oyster soup? Do british people not know how to cook?


Any-ways, it appears the latest video is doing very poorly. Under 200k views in the last 24 hours.
He already changed the title to give it a boost.

The fans are moving on.
Only we remain.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Remember the main idea he wanted to get across to the group chat was that he lied about oysters (because he's so relatable and wacky uwu), but then his "friends" were intrigued by the exit interview comment, and (I believe) he just ran with it:
"Oh you guys don't do that? I always do it in all my relationships."

Almost like some kind of disorder where you read semi-ambiguous social cues as literal and straight-forward.

 

[AfghanBlue]

@EdiblePanties (can’t direct reply cos post too long/quotey)

I think the oyster comment related to reheating them. Or maybe it was a joke about how shellfish are pretty apocalyptically, occasionally deadly ill-making if not handled/cooked properly.

English cooking hs historically not been great -it has vastly improved in the last 30 years. It was bad for a LONG time though.

Spoiler: Exit Wound

In all seriousness, Olly probably does now insist on an NDA- he talks about needing security at public events, lol. Real actual celebrity’s do have NDAs sometimes, so sure as shit mr no-bluecheck will have hopped onto that probably once he got two hundred youtube subs. Lol.

It’s probably partially what his exit-wound end of relationship discussion is mostly about / sparked from too.

Open your mouth and you’ll wish you’d never been born, witch. I’ll sue you and you won’t have a pot to piss in ….

Accccctually, we DID go halfers on that piss-pot, and we can’t very well cut it in half, so how about you just give me half the money for it?
I’ll just tot that up and add ten pounds to the bill here.


I must say, it’s odd how financially he focusses it- at Ollys age, how many relationships will have included big shares purchases eg furniture and stuff? That’s like marriage or at least long term household things.

Unless he’s quibbling about tiny petty shit and he’s been keeping a mental tab on every “I’ll get these, love” at the til in Tesco for the last.. 6 months?

(Seeing as he seems to class his couple month, met once or twice thing with Contra as an actual relationship, I can’t see his things lasting long if that one is to be made so much of.)

The ?presents to be returned? thing too…just EUGH. I think we’re all too secondhand-embarrassed to go over that one again.

In fact his relationship with Claire does seem a pretty Businesslike arrangement doesn’t it?
It started via paid services-voice coaching, they have to organise to book expensive flights to visit..
She had to shut down everything on his immediate say-so…

she sort of acts as his personal unpaid PA/ photographer on his jaunt to get snubbed by Contra-
who was at least alluded to in his little roundup, unlike poor old Claire who didn’t even get throne her occasional bone of /Interchangeable Blonde American prop.

EDIT- oh! The eye thing- he had soemthing fairly significant done to his nose, whcih would have been like, supporting his eye socket as was. Maaaaaybe they did soemthing to his brow ridge too, idk, but the nose done badly woudl be enough to set things off-kilter I should think.

And @AssignedEva - I can give you a wrought-iron garun-fucking-tee, the picasso question joke was stolen from twitter. I am pretty sure I’ve seen that exact joke before, and if not word for word, the same framework he has lifted it from.

Just like Madame XY. If something seems to good for Olly- it is.

 

[The Best of Me]

"I am Fagladriel, Queeng of the Autogynymphos. Peer into my Mirror Dysmorphic, behold thy fate and despair."

So I'm (only) just getting into Discworld (Terry Pratchett was a terf. lol Die mad about it, Shaun!) and the portrayal of Elves in that franchise describes Ol'Lie to a fucking T

 

[Excuzzi]

Finally got bored enough to watch the video/advertisement. Did this Charlie Kirk-faced troon really just skip around an art gallery and then pretend he's traumatised by art galleries?

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

So I'm (only) just getting into Discworld (Terry Pratchett was a terf. lol Die mad about it, Shaun!) and the portrayal of Elves in that franchise describes Ol'Lie to a fucking T

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Remarkably accurate, except for this part:

"Seen as innately beautiful and stylish"

Pretty much every troon has to put an insane amount of effort into looking remotely beautiful or stylish, and the vast vast vast majority of them still fail.

 

[A Dark Day Indeed]

He is like a bad copy of a bad copy of a human. It’s really quite uncanny. That chat log looks like a failed Turing test.

Acting school tends to do that to people to a degree; trooning out on top of that obliterated the remnants of relatable human behaviour and mannerisms he had left.

I low-key want to ask him to describe in single words, only the good things that come into his mind about his mother.

 

[AssignedEva]

His subreddit isn't having it either- only 25 comments two days later.

Some choice selections:



(There was another excellent comment along the lines of "She's wearing that getup and expects us to take her seriously? God" but sadly not archived).

 

[Traummaschine]

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Not saying he isn't copying Contra, but Contra seems to be referencing Baphomet while I think Olly is going for Jesus(?).

 

[AssignedEva]

Not saying he isn't copying Contra, but Contra seems to be referencing Baphomet while I think Olly is going for Jesus(?).

In Ollie's defence, they're all referencing Salvator Mundi ("Saviour of the World"). Jesus holds a globe representing the Earth and raises his hand in the sign of benediction - here's Albrecht Dürer's take from a few years earlier:

Baphomet's pose is a deliberate sacrilegious reference to it. Supposedly the weird hand gesture can be caused by a type of palsy and maybe St Peter (the first Pope) had that palsy so it started meaning something to Christians.

 

[Futaba]

Imagine having a whole sub genre of art dedicated to you and you don't use it as a jumping off point for your latest video essay on the subject. smh

Pooner art - no innate skill to create and yet it cuts deeper to the absurdity of the trans movement than a thousand video essays. Says way more than any Rothko tbh lol

I couldnt stand to watch the whole thing - he is just so grating and pompous. I thought the kanye glasses outfit pose was a reference to satan and the "as above, as below" thing so TIL.

 

[scathefire]

Like I'd feel weird going even mentioning my dumb discord conversations I have with my online friends with my real life friends, its extra weird to share this as publicly as possible.

Remember the main idea he wanted to get across to the group chat was that he lied about oysters (because he's so relatable and wacky uwu), but then his "friends" were intrigued by the exit interview comment, and (I believe) he just ran with it:
"Oh you guys don't do that? I always do it in all my relationships."

The oyster conversation is just yet another form of online humblebragging on his part, this time about his dedication to healthy relationships and his great social life. Basically all of his tweets that aren't announcements (and oftentimes even those) are just him humblebragging about something or other. About his play, his podcast, his acting career, his friend group, his obviously-shooped face, etc...

 

[ghjoigcbn]

@EdiblePanties
The not heating oysters thing to me reads like a snobby comment about how raw oysters are tbe best and anyone who eats them cooked is a pleb. It's considered a high class thing to eat or serve raw oysters. Maybe originating from the fact that oysters need to be very fresh to be served raw and of a high quality.

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“What if I get invited to a party (you won’t) and I say the wrong thing about Mark Rothko (you will) and I make a fool of myself (you do everyday already by being ‘Abby’). “

I was so distracted by his thin lips in the Picasso outfit. And the “jewelry” he wore in the Picasso outfit looked so cheap. It literally looked like it was made of felt.

I can’t believe he called “Paris” one of his best friends! He literally just tweeted with surprise about Paris’s apartment (like it was the first time he’d been there) and how Paris cooks. Like two months ago. Paris better speed dial Contra for tips on dealing with a clingy skinwalker.

Gosh he looks rough. Doing the classic troon move of just wearing hair down and slapping on lipstick, because he lacks femals socialization and/or can't tell he looks like crap.
Pro tip: When being seen in public, women like to part and brush their hair. Even style it, especially if its a frizzy mess. Also makeup is applied to flatter the face, not just make lips stand out. If we were going to be filmed, more effort would be applied.

I get that he's too lazy for all that, but he couldn't spring for hair and makeup help when filming this part of yhe video?? Tough times, tough times indeed.

 

[narcissistic injury]

I think he’s changed the video title TWICE now?!?

 

[A Dark Day Indeed]

I think he’s changed the video title TWICE now?!?

He said he does that when a video is “underperforming”.
Is it just me, or is his viewership crashing? 227k views on a two day old video feels underwhelming, especially for a channel that should, going by its description, have a 99% subscriber overlap with Contra. Can someone who has been following his numbers more closely chime in?

I’m living for this skinwalker gallivanting around a museum as if that would do anything but remind people of the time Contra did it first and more appositely. Just like with the fast cuts between him and Madame X, he seems oblivious to the fact that he is only succeeding in inviting unflattering comparisons.

 

[nickname required]

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why did they felt this was an interesting thing to share?
It looks like all this conversation is made from tweets, no content, only talking like you're ready to being screenshotted and quoted like a funny meme.
It's so fucking boring, I don't even get what is the point of this.
I genuinely think these are the only friends left for her. Or, even better, these are the cool people that deserve to be known as abi's friends.
What an insufferable prick.

 

[Shotgun Badger]

He said he does that when a video is “underperforming”.
Is it just me, or is his viewership crashing? 227k views on a two day old video feels underwhelming, especially for a channel that should, going by its description, have a 99% subscriber overlap with Contra. Can someone who has been following his numbers more closely chime in?

I’m living for this skinwalker gallivanting around a museum as if that would do anything but remind people of the time Contra did it first and more appositely. Just like with the fast cuts between him and Madame X, he seems oblivious to the fact that he is only succeeding in inviting unflattering comparisons.

His videos seem to cap out at about a million views, which I think any youtuber would be more than happy with to be fair. I think his videos have a long 'tail', they pick up most of their views over the course of months and he's really trying to work the algorithm with stuff like constantly changing the title.

 

[EdiblePanties]

EDIT- oh! The eye thing- he had soemthing fairly significant done to his nose, whcih would have been like, supporting his eye socket as was. Maaaaaybe they did soemthing to his brow ridge too, idk, but the nose done badly woudl be enough to set things off-kilter I should think.

You are probably right and it might be a result of surgery. As much as I dislike him I don't wish ill on anyone so it would suck if it was a medical issue or botched surgery.

 

[Owner of a Lonely Hole]

He'd have to have anything to fondle for that.

I continue to believe that Ollie isn’t taking estrogen, because he is fully prepared to “detransition” once the tides of troon political expediency change.