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5t3n0g0ph3r said:
That's just lunacy. She has all the right opinions in LA and I don't see her going anywhere.
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Ever heard of the Purity Spiral? Sometimes just having the "right opinions" isn't enough. One thing about radical and extremist groups is that they do a lot of purity spiraling to ensure that one of their own don't become descenders or if they decide that they want to go rouge later on.

I mean look what happened to J.K. Rowling, I remember back in my day she was considered one of the edgiest people of the 2000's because she pissed off the Rightoids at the time for her left-wing views. Now she's considered "far-right" and it's simply because she made remarks about how transwomen are not biological women because no amount of chopping their wieners off will change their genes to female and because of that J.K. Rowling was labeled a "thought criminal" for saying such a thing and so the Leftoids threw her under the bus for not being as radical as they are despite that she's still technically part of the left-wing side of the political spectrum.

So if Stephanie Sheh is going to get replaced, the purity spiral of that lefty West Coast culture demands that she must be more radical than she already is in order to not get kicked out from the in-group and if it means shitting on Vic then so be it.

This is how dictators and cult leaders control their people using fear and moral grand standing to have an iron grip on who they want to control, it's a vicious cycle anyway.
 
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"I hope you're aware that statutory rape is a thing, right? Because that is what Michele is describing."
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"start defending actual rapists like Vic Mignogna"
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I've probably asked this before, but how do you go through all of these tweets and not go insane from the amount of lunacy in them?
 
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Was Stan's affidavit in the second amended pleading? I could've sworn it was.

In this paragraph, the court says:
Rial described in her deposition a2007 incident involving Mignogna at Izumi con during which he had forcibly kissed her, pushed her onto the bed, and got on top of her after she accompanied him to his hotel room so he could show her a fan film before a dinner with Dahlin, the convention chair. Rial testified that when Dahlin came to the hotel room’s door, Mignogna jumped up and answered it.Rial recounted that Dahlin had asked her if she was okay as they were leaving and that she had told him she was fine because she was “in shock the whole time.” In his affidavit attached to Mignogna’s TCPA response, Dahlin stated that he had no recollection of the November 2007 incident. Dahlin also stated, “If I had noticed Monica Rial being distressed leaving Victor Mignogna’s room, I am certain that I would remember it.” [Emphasis added.] This statement is mere speculation .See Field tech Avionics,262 S.W.3dat833 (“Speculation is not evidence.”).
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Now from how I'm reading it, it seems like they know Dahlin very clearly doesn't remember what happened to Monica from actually happening, contradicting her. They then say his "I would remember it" statement is just speculation. But that doesn't make his preceding statement speculation. However, if his affidavit is in the second pleading shouldn't they say that despite what Dahlin says it doesn't matter cause the court didn't consider it. They cite case law for his "speculation" but they don't cite anything for him not corroborating Monica's story.
 
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Was Stan's affidavit in the second amended pleading? I could've sworn it was.

In this paragraph, the court says:


Now from how I'm reading it, it seems like they know Dahlin very clearly doesn't remember what happened to Monica from actually happening, contradicting her. They then say his "I would remember it" statement is just speculation. But that doesn't make his preceding statement speculation. However, if his affidavit is in the second pleading shouldn't they say that despite what Dahlin says it doesn't matter cause the court didn't consider it. They cite case law for his "speculation" but they don't cite anything for him not corroborating Monica's story.
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So what now? This just seems like the silver bullet KV can use to say Vic SA’d Monica.
 
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Was Stan's affidavit in the second amended pleading? I could've sworn it was.
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I assume not. The court said it was proper to not consider anything from the second amended petition, while also saying the depositions, Erica McCord's declaration, and Stan's affidavit were properly in the record. Ergo, it wasn't in the second amended petition.

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Your bringing up the whole "I would remember it" = speculation thing makes me wonder. This opinion reads a lot different from the other TCPA opinions that we've looked at while waiting for this one. It just feels different if that makes sense.

I can only assume the court was so annoyed with Ty's bumbling and the general mountain of shit in the record they kind of just stopped caring.
 
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TheClappening said:
I assume not. The court said it was proper to not consider anything from the second amended petition, while also saying the depositions, Erica McCord's declaration, and Stan's affidavit were properly in the record. Ergo, it wasn't in the second amended petition.

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Your bringing up the whole "I would remember it" = speculation thing makes me wonder. This opinion reads a lot different from the other TCPA opinions that we've looked at while waiting for this one. It just feels different if that makes sense.

I can only assume the court was so annoyed with Ty's bumbling and the general mountain of shit in the record they kind of just stopped caring.
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Looks like the appellate court is writing an explanation for the Chuppening that gets them to this outcome. As I recall, it was not clear from Chupp's opinion if he considered the 2AP or not. Am I misremebering? I seem to recall that, or was part of the appeal that Chupp DIDN'T consider it--and should have? Been 2 years boyos, I can't hold every detail...

This might explain the difference in tone?
 
What is KV even fucking arguing about anymore? It's clear they don't like Vic, but now you can't even openly say you like the guy without the fucking court case being brought up. On top of that, they have been playing this long game of telephone where now he's somehow straight up a rapist/pedo/whatever other slur they have made up inserted here, and if you support him you're a piece of shit.

Throughout the entirety of this whole thing Vic has publicly stayed professional, to the point, and consistent. Monica, Jamie, etc, have constantly stoked the fires, laughed like a pair of hyenas and changed their story multiple times. How the fuck do more people not come to terms with what's happening? When you try to point out anything about the facts, they'll hyperfocus on one minor thing you (or someone else) mention and then use that to obfuscate the whole severity of what went down. I'm a former KV, and I feel like such a piece of shit for even being a part of that whole movement after realizing too long after the point what was happening behind the scenes.

I don't think it's hard to imagine that anyone should be able to have a turnaround of opinion, but these inhuman shitheads really push believability out the window. How do they not see the hypocrisy in their quest of being 'pure, unlike you Vicstans :)' while putting snake venom inside other people?
 
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KimpleShielder said:
What is KV even fucking arguing about anymore? It's clear they don't like Vic, but now you can't even openly say you like the guy without the fucking court case being brought up. On top of that, they have been playing this long game of telephone where now he's somehow straight up a rapist/pedo/whatever other slur they have made up inserted here, and if you support him you're a piece of shit.

Throughout the entirety of this whole thing Vic has publicly stayed professional, to the point, and consistent. Monica, Jamie, etc, have constantly stoked the fires, laughed like a pair of hyenas and changed their story multiple times. How the fuck do more people not come to terms with what's happening? When you try to point out anything about the facts, they'll hyperfocus on one minor thing you (or someone else) mention and then use that to obfuscate the whole severity of what went down. I'm a former KV, and I feel like such a piece of shit for even being a part of that whole movement after realizing too long after the point what was happening behind the scenes.

I don't think it's hard to imagine that anyone should be able to have a turnaround of opinion, but these inhuman shitheads really push believability out the window. How do they not see the hypocrisy in their quest of being 'pure, unlike you Vicstans :)' while putting snake venom inside other people?
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Cause they know they're lying and think they're super duper smart. Like a certain two ton.
 
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Himedall All-seeing Waifu said:
Looks like the appellate court is writing an explanation for the Chuppening that gets them to this outcome. As I recall, it was not clear from Chupp's opinion if he considered the 2AP or not. Am I misremebering? I seem to recall that, or was part of the appeal that Chupp DIDN'T consider it--and should have? Been 2 years boyos, I can't hold every detail...

This might explain the difference in tone?
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I'm fuzzy on the lore of 2019 too, but if I remember you're about right. He just simply ignored the second amended petition without ruling on whether it should be admitted or stricken.

In retrospect, Ty should have gotten an objection into the record, but I don't think he ever challenged the non-decision on the second amended. Then again, the 2DCOA clearly didn't like how that was handled, so any objection would have been "Fuck your Tylphone notary, retard."
 
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My darlings,

I came to check on you and I am genuinely sorry to see you all so hurt and upset.

It hurts to realize you've been conned. We all want to think we're better and smarter than that, that we can spot a con, and it's human nature to deny we can be fooled, to search for any other explanation.

But I'm afraid you've been had, angels. It's long past time to face it.

1. Under the smiles, Vic is every inch the bitter, mean, vain, plastic creep he's reputed to be. Just go look up the earliest posts about him here, back in February 2019.

2. Nick hyped up the case and took $300,000 of your money and gave it to his family's estate attorney. He used Vic to advance his own career.

Also, no one has ever said where that money went or what it was spent on. It vanished.

3. Law doesn't work how you think it works, and it never did. You had dozens of lawyers telling you so, and you ignored them in favor of the one telling you what you wanted to hear.

Accept you were fooled because you wanted to be fooled. Be brave and don't turn away, possums. Pain is part of growth.

xoxo
 
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LawTwitter Cheer Squad said:
My darlings,

I came to check on you and I am genuinely sorry to see you all so hurt and upset.

It hurts to realize you've been conned. We all want to think we're better and smarter than that, that we can spot a con, and it's human nature to deny we can be fooled, to search for any other explanation.

But I'm afraid you've been had, angels. It's long past time to face it.

1. Under the smiles, Vic is every inch the bitter, mean, vain, plastic creep he's reputed to be. Just go look up the earliest posts about him here, back in February 2019.

2. Nick hyped up the case and took $300,000 of your money and gave it to his family's estate attorney. He used Vic to advance his own career.

Also, no one has ever said where that money went or what it was spent on. It vanished.

3. Law doesn't work how you think it works, and it never did. You had dozens of lawyers telling you so, and you ignored them in favor of the one telling you what you wanted to hear.

Accept you were fooled because you wanted to be fooled. Be brave and don't turn away, possums. Pain is part of growth.

xoxo
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Alright lets go through this retarded post by LawlTwatter groupies.

1. There has been ZERO fact finding on what he was accused of, everything still falls apart when slightly questioned, Vic has been the only one consistent in his stories and in what happened.

2. This has only been explained hundreds of times on the GFM, on Nicks streams in where that money went and where it was going to and what its use was. It is being used for its intended purpose and will help Vic with legal fees, that is all.

3. Losing an appeal doesn't make everything automatically true, you can lie and change what the 2COA wrote in their decision (which seems to agree he has a case, just Ty utterly fucked it up by not getting things in on time)

But thanks for the free entertainment and seeing how sad it is you still have to lie even after getting everything you want.
 
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Funny they mention QF, his harasser and her autism squad never stopped their harassment campaign even after she went to court the first time. Now that it coming close to court time again for her, she's changing statements to save face so she probably continue to get her fellow tards to keep attacking him. I'm sure a lot of the kv/leftoids still consider him a bad guy despite "getting into some mess and people forgave him."

Seraphic_Vishnal said:
Ahh the weasels are still twisting words and omitting statements.
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Has always been their creed.

5t3n0g0ph3r said:
Why would KickVic move on? They got their taste of blood and they want more.
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That's a thing with leftoids. They never move on, even after death. Look at Stan Lee and Kobe (I think it was him). After they died, they brought forth even more assault against them. It may quiet down at some point but it never ends until whatever it is, is 1000% destroyed.

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What is KV even fucking arguing about anymore? It's clear they don't like Vic, but now you can't even openly say you like the guy without the fucking court case being brought up. On top of that, they have been playing this long game of telephone where now he's somehow straight up a rapist/pedo/whatever other slur they have made up inserted here, and if you support him you're a piece of shit.

Throughout the entirety of this whole thing Vic has publicly stayed professional, to the point, and consistent. Monica, Jamie, etc, have constantly stoked the fires, laughed like a pair of hyenas and changed their story multiple times. How the fuck do more people not come to terms with what's happening? When you try to point out anything about the facts, they'll hyperfocus on one minor thing you (or someone else) mention and then use that to obfuscate the whole severity of what went down. I'm a former KV, and I feel like such a piece of shit for even being a part of that whole movement after realizing too long after the point what was happening behind the scenes.

I don't think it's hard to imagine that anyone should be able to have a turnaround of opinion, but these inhuman shitheads really push believability out the window. How do they not see the hypocrisy in their quest of being 'pure, unlike you Vicstans :)' while putting snake venom inside other people?
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First off, congrats on doing something kv seems to never do: use your head and ask questions. Second, kv seems to consist of everything they claim to hate under the guise of virtue signaling. It's how the left runs, like a bunch of simps.

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My darlings,

I came to check on you and I am genuinely sorry to see you all so hurt and upset.

It hurts to realize you've been conned. We all want to think we're better and smarter than that, that we can spot a con, and it's human nature to deny we can be fooled, to search for any other explanation.

But I'm afraid you've been had, angels. It's long past time to face it.

1. Under the smiles, Vic is every inch the bitter, mean, vain, plastic creep he's reputed to be. Just go look up the earliest posts about him here, back in February 2019.

2. Nick hyped up the case and took $300,000 of your money and gave it to his family's estate attorney. He used Vic to advance his own career.

Also, no one has ever said where that money went or what it was spent on. It vanished.

3. Law doesn't work how you think it works, and it never did. You had dozens of lawyers telling you so, and you ignored them in favor of the one telling you what you wanted to hear.

Accept you were fooled because you wanted to be fooled. Be brave and don't turn away, possums. Pain is part of growth.

xoxo
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And speaking of the fat, sweaty, and all around retarded. Here comes the pretenders showing how off how degenerate and retarded they. Stay mad you sweaty simp.
 
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quickthrowaway said:
Was Stan's affidavit in the second amended pleading? I could've sworn it was.

In this paragraph, the court says:


Now from how I'm reading it, it seems like they know Dahlin very clearly doesn't remember what happened to Monica from actually happening, contradicting her. They then say his "I would remember it" statement is just speculation. But that doesn't make his preceding statement speculation. However, if his affidavit is in the second pleading shouldn't they say that despite what Dahlin says it doesn't matter cause the court didn't consider it. They cite case law for his "speculation" but they don't cite anything for him not corroborating Monica's story.
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That's some genuinely baffling reasoning that apparently is precedent in Texas which sounds like something their Supreme Court should take a look at (not that it would change the outcome of this case). Stan is saying he didn't remember anything like that happening because he'd have remember it if it did, but the court is reading it as speculation?

However, that's still on Ty/his team since the proper procedure is eliminating ambiguous statements like that in affidavits to whatever degree possible. It's pretty clear what Stan's perspective on the incident is, but there's potential ambiguity in his affidavit.
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My darlings,

I came to check on you and I am genuinely sorry to see you all so hurt and upset.

It hurts to realize you've been conned. We all want to think we're better and smarter than that, that we can spot a con, and it's human nature to deny we can be fooled, to search for any other explanation.

But I'm afraid you've been had, angels. It's long past time to face it.

1. Under the smiles, Vic is every inch the bitter, mean, vain, plastic creep he's reputed to be. Just go look up the earliest posts about him here, back in February 2019.

2. Nick hyped up the case and took $300,000 of your money and gave it to his family's estate attorney. He used Vic to advance his own career.

Also, no one has ever said where that money went or what it was spent on. It vanished.
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Stop projecting. Just because you are a bitter, mean, vain, plastic creep and your money vanishes toward the fatty foods stuffing your face doesn't mean money normally vanishes like this.
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3. Law doesn't work how you think it works, and it never did. You had dozens of lawyers telling you so, and you ignored them in favor of the one telling you what you wanted to hear.
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So what was Lawtwitter right about again other than Ty being terrible in both his filings and in submitting evidence to the court? And I guess Vic losing? You'd think Lawtwitter would support the right of people to petition a court for grievances but apparently they like cases being thrown out because of procedural issues.
 
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