Infected RationalWiki - Whiny hugbox for spergs and a clusterfuck of neverending drama on a rapidly declining website.

[WhoopieDoo]

Mostly Bernie with Adam Morland getting sand in his non-existing vagina about "misogynistic" "Bernie-Bros" (most likely channeling Dlagondlagon) but being pro-Bernie, too.

Was that a joke or being serious?

Also, are you this BoN?

Speaking of "are you ..."-questions, are you Arisboch aka. @systemlord_baal?

 

[fuehrer_dessler]

Was that a joke or being serious?
Also, are you this BoN?
Speaking of "are you ..."-questions, are you Arisboch aka. @systemlord_baal?

No on both.

 

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

Come on @WhoopieDoo, obviously @fuehrer_dessler is FuzzyCatPotato

 

[Hellfire]

David Gerard is monitoring Carpetsmoker's RW fork. http://skepticpages.org/Special:RecentChanges
http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...on_bar&curid=77683&diff=1631879&oldid=1631836
http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...on_bar&curid=77683&diff=1631879&oldid=1631836

Minutes after that went up, FuzzyCatPotato aka @fuehrer_dessler deleted his "List of RationalWiki forks".

(Deletion log); 00:19 . . FuzzyCatPotato (Talk | contribs) deleted page User:FuzzyCatPotato/List of RationalWiki forks ‎

 

[fuehrer_dessler]

Come on @WhoopieDoo, obviously @fuehrer_dessler is FuzzyCatPotato

Congrats, you found me out, you son of shaitan.

 

[Hellfire]

Adam 'bites the bullet early' to warn of people impersonating him at Carpetsmoker's fork. http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...on_bar&curid=77683&diff=1631892&oldid=1631879

Biting the bullet early; If anyone shows up there claiming to be me or claiming to be in cahoots, it's not. Figured it was important to say because we've had trolls try to impersonate me on this very wiki before and I would not be surprised. I've no interest in interfering with anything Carpetsmoker's trying to do here. Ban 'em with prejudice if they show up, I say. - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 00:45, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Gerard is salt. http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...on_bar&curid=77683&diff=1631896&oldid=1631892

I see a fake Ryulong account has already been created. Just imagine the wiki resulting when the kiwifarmers, slymepitters and gators get their wishes - David Gerard (talk) 00:52, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

@Dynastia Cuckstain is back!! Cuckstain had vanished into his cuckshed after having his sysop removed and being put on probation, he has now come back and made an edit, quibbling over Gamergate BS.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_Gamergate&diff=prev&oldid=1631733

 

[AnOminous]

So what chance of anything resembling success does an RW fork have, anyway?

Not that I really give a fork, just idly curious.

 

[WhoopieDoo]

So what chance of anything resembling success does an RW fork have, anyway?

Not that I really give a fork, just idly curious.

This is actually in the FAQ:

In a year this will be to RationalWiki what Citizendium and ASoK are to Wikipedia and Conservapedia.

This could very well be the case. It’s a chance I’m willing to take. At least it’s already better than the Scary Logos Wiki and Battle Klasky Wiki.

 

[APerson]

So what chance of anything resembling success does an RW fork have, anyway?

Not that I really give a fork, just idly curious.

Well, we can draw a parallel from across the political spectrum. A Storehouse of Knowledge was a fork of Conservapedia done by a major Conservapedia editor, Philip J. Rayment, in 2009. Right now, the main page hasn't been edited since 2013 and there has been literally nothing done in the past month. So I'd call a RW fork's chance of success at 0.

 

[WhoopieDoo]

Well, we can draw a parallel from across the political spectrum. A Storehouse of Knowledge was a fork of Conservapedia done by a major Conservapedia editor, Philip J. Rayment, in 2009. Right now, the main page hasn't been edited since 2013 and there has been literally nothing done in the past month. So I'd call a RW fork's chance of success at 0.

But it's not like ASoK never stood a chance. Like Citizendium, it started out with some steam, but had its steam taken away by the founder's questionable behaviour...

But yeah, success isn't guaranteed.

 

[HG 400]

@WhoopieDoo

I support your endeavours insofar as they're clearly making Davo salty AF. You should discuss teaming up with Tallallah she also forked RW.

 

[Hellfire]

David Gerard says he found it via Google Alerts.

How did you figure this out? It's not as if I advertised it to anyone...

I also have some fine-tuning to do, but should be mostly finished from a technical pov.

Carpetsmoker (talk) 01:08, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Uh, Carpet. A crucial flaw: the logo is "SW", as if it stood for "Sceptic Wiki". Even more crucial flaw: the logo is too close to "SJW". Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 01:15, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, this is one of the fine-tunings that needs to be done (the working name was SkepWiki for a long time) before someone decided to be something of a dick and just post an "announcement" here... Carpetsmoker (talk) 01:18, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
It showed up in Google Alerts on "rationalwiki" - David Gerard (talk) 08:23, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

The salt continues to pour over someone (potentially Gerard or Adam Morland) making that Ryulong account: http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Saloon_bar&diff=prev&oldid=1632014

Yeah, insulating that I somehow agree with "gators" or "slymepitters". Great way to poison the well, proving once more that this was the correct thing to do and that you truly do not give a single damn about the truth of things. Carpetsmoker (talk) 01:17, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
You've observably attracted the sort of people who will very first thing create a fake "Ryulong" account - David Gerard (talk) 08:25, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

@WhoopieDoo

I support your endeavours insofar as they're clearly making Davo salty AF. You should discuss teaming up with Tallallah she also forked RW.

He should try to get GethN7 on board, wasn't he interested in non-Gamergate RW topics?

 

[HG 400]

You attracted a troll, and this reflects poorly on you.

- David "Self-Awareness" Gerard

 

[fuehrer_dessler]

- David "Self-Awareness" Gerard

David really said THAT?!?!

 

[chimpburgers]

- David "Self-Awareness" Gerard

He's one to talk. If this RW shit were to go away tomorrow, he'd still be one of the biggest, most arrogant cows to come out of it.

 

[fuehrer_dessler]

He's one to talk. If this RW shit were to go away tomorrow, he'd still be one of the biggest, most arrogant cows to come out of it.

Especially if you keep in mind, that he shielded Dlagondlagon for fuck knows how long.

 

[Hellfire]

Cuckstain and Benjamin John Wright are fighting with The Devil's Advocate over some Gamergate-connected thing. Benjamin decides to block TDA for 9 hours rather than try and discuss it.

The Devil's Advocate (Talk | contribs)
(Undo revision 1632152 by Queex (talk) People should get his side of the story if you are going to insist on mentioning this here)

Castaigne2 (Talk | contribs)
(It's not alleged. He was found guilty. No longer alleged at that point. Also, his excuse was given in court and discarded for lack of evidence. "his side" is irrelevant; only the judgment is relevant.)

23:27, 23 February 2016 Queex (Talk | contribs) blocked The Devil's Advocate (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 31415 seconds (about 9 hours) (account creation disabled) (Boring repetitive reversions)

What they are fighting over:

"Canadian lawyer {{wpl|Harry Kopyto}} who was disbarred 26 years ago for allegedly overbilling Legal Aid, though he contests he was just bad at managing his books and sometimes underbilled Legal Aid to the point that overall he received less money than he earned."

"Canadian lawyer {{wpl|Harry Kopyto}} who was disbarred for 26 years for overbilling Legal Aid."

Adam is chimping out at HuskyHarlot at the saloon bar. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Saloon_bar#Irrelevant_bickering

Spoiler: How Adam Morland is spending his day

What caused these ooks and eeks you wonder? The Jane Foster Thor (or "Whor" according to /co/) storyline in Marvel comics.

You saw the comic I linked yeah? That's a great example, no handwaving here. Is the dialogue idiotic? check. Does it go out of its way to push an ideology? check. See bin (3): SJW go home. – Sarah (HH) 03:41, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't see it going "out of its way". I see it poking fun at the people who got all foamy mouthed at the idea of a female thor even existing. Again, this is a response to the outrage we're talking about, not the source of it. A response to people trying to force their politics down it's mouth, not the other way around. How exactly are they in the wrong here? - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 03:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

 

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

I'm on my phone so I can't properly document this, but Kitsunelaine just tried to coop yet another person (HuskyHarlot this time) and is getting shut down hard.

The drama has moved to Kitsune's talk page which also should be documented but, again, I'm on my phone.

 

[Hellfire]

So the drama from my previous post (Adam arguing with HuskyHarlot over Whor/Gamergate/ideologies) escalated after HuskyHarlot mentioned Ryulong. Adam claims to be writing a "professional VN" - visual novel presumably. (@Adamska has previously collected examples of Adam Morland's artwork and writing in the Michael Cohen/Ryulong thread)

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...on_bar&curid=77683&diff=1632398&oldid=1632396

I am literally writing a professional VN as we speak. Try harder. (Also do we really need to go over why "BJ's for coverage" is more BS? Like that's the most basic debunked claim GG's thrown out. Like, you'd find it in "GG bullshit 101". I don't have to go over this, do I?) - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 05:13, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

No idea what a VN is but good luck with that, sincerely! – Sarah (HH) 05:24, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

look man this is my honest advice to you: maybe you should stop arguing about things you've admitted you have no interest in, know nothing about, and will never partake of? There are better uses of your time. - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 05:28, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

But I've been so successful - no more Ryulong, see? Success! You've got the wrong idea: it's not about video games or comic books, it's ideological and I know that very well. You started this war without realizing how many people you were taking on. Big mistake, but what's done is done, there's no going back. Good luck! – Sarah (HH) 05:51, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Adam couldn't even, got PTSD, and was literally shaking after reading that comment. He immediately went to the Chicken coop to try to get HuskyHarlot banned. http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Chicken_coop&oldid=1632411#HuskyHarlot

I don't think I have to do much except link to this and this user's history here in order to make a case against them. They're a disruptive troll who admit they're only here to wage some imaginary war against other users of this site, and their history is very telling. Ordinarily I would propose a vandal bin, but since this user has stated their motivations outright, I feel like that sort of intent is more than worthy of a ban. I tried engaging with this user constructively, and this is what I got. There's no sense keeping them around when they're this overt about their intentions here. They're only here to spew vitriol ((see: SO many things in their contribs)) and to try and stir the pot and cause more drama, as it were. We don't need that here.

Tielec01 asks which blocking requirement HuskyHarlot has breached.

Harassment. They literally said they're here to wage a war against other users on talk pages. They're a gamergate troll who came here to harass Ryulong primarily, then me when he was gone. And you can find many different things in their user contributions to verify the sorts of things they post. - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 06:19, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Disagreement is not harassment. Tielec01 (talk) 06:24, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

How the hell can you say "I'm here to wage an ideological war against you, we outnumber you" is a simple disagreement? If you'd like, I can go through and list all the bullshit they've said and done, but it honestly seems like more effort than they deserve at this point. - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 06:25, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

AgingHippie tries to take control of the situation and Adam edit wars with him.

• 
  
  Spoiler: "Stop creating drama."

  [*](diff | hist) . . RationalWikihicken coop‎; 06:33 . . (+3,747)‎ . . ‎Kitsunelaine (Talk | contribs)‎ (Undo revision 1632415 by AgingHippie (talk) What the hell, dude? This user has done more than enough to justify a case.)
  [*](Block log); 06:30 . . Kitsunelaine (Talk | contribs) blocked AgingHippie (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 0×π seconds (about right) (autoblock disabled) ‎(NONE of that is hyperbole, either. Look at the linked post in the case. )
  [*](diff | hist) . . m RationalWikihicken coop‎; 06:30 . . (-3,747)‎ . . ‎AgingHippie (Talk | contribs)‎ (Reverted edits by Kitsunelaine (talk) to last revision by AgingHippie)
  [*](diff | hist) . . RationalWikihicken coop‎; 06:29 . . (+3,747)‎ . . ‎Kitsunelaine (Talk | contribs)‎ (Undo revision 1632412 by AgingHippie (talk) I tried that. I got "I'm here to wage ideological war against you and I don't care about the actual topics" as a response. )
  [*](diff | hist) . . RationalWikihicken coop/Archive44‎; 06:29 . . (+3,74‎ . . ‎AgingHippie (Talk | contribs)‎ (more nonsense.)
  [*](diff | hist) . . RationalWikihicken coop‎; 06:28 . . (-3,747)‎ . . ‎AgingHippie (Talk | contribs)‎ (→‎HuskyHarlot: Stop cooping people who piss you off and start ignoring them. It's easier. Stop creating drama. Work out your personal conflicts like a grownup without dragging the whole community into them. Archiving.)

This sperg out continues at Adam's talk page. HuskyHarlot tries to make a peace offer and be blocked for 24 hours, Adam declares he will only be "satisfied" with a permanent ban for her. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Kitsunelaine#Look

Ignore him/her/hir/zhe/whatever is appropriate. There's no need to Coop every user that pisses you off. Edit articles. Don't read posts from people you don't want to hear from. Don't engage in dialogue with people whose opinions you find loathsome and get huffy when they do exactly what you expect them to do. Just don't read the posts, don't talk to them, and, voila --- problem solved. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 06:33, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

The user is here to only start shit. They admitted they're here to only start shit. Moreover, they admitted they're here to wage an imaginary ideological war against me. After I had tried to engage with them constructively. And if you look at their history, they are primarily here due to an earnest obsession with Ryulong, and have left particularly vile comments every which way. I fail to see how this is unworthy of a coop case. - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 06:36, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Seriously man, I said Gamergate was an ideological war. I'm not here to edit video game articles or comics, or anything like that. I hardly even edit Gamergate stuff. I really think you've misunderstood. – Sarah (HH) 06:36, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

[1] "I've been succsessful! No more Ryulong! [...] You started this war without realizing how many people you were taking on! Big mistake! What's done is done, there's no going back!"
For fucks sake dude, the charade is obvious. - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 06:38, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Those were two independent thoughts. (1) You said my time here was wasted, I produced contrary evidence. (2) You seemed to imply Gamergate was restricted to comic and video game enthusiasts - I explained it was not.
Also what AgingHippie said, thank you. I really don't want to waste community time with coop cases though. I was mouthing off at the bar which seemed within the bounds of acceptable bar talk. – Sarah (HH) 06:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

You've done nothing to prove me wrong about you. - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 06:47, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

How about you block me for 24 hours and we call it even? So long as I don't have to defend myself or my savior The Donald I will not unblock (assuming I can unblock, I've never done that before.) Deal? – Sarah (HH) 06:51, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

I'll be satisfied when you're perma'd. But thanks for the offer. - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 06:53, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

"The user is here to only start shit. They admitted they're here to only start shit." And by opening a Coop case, you are giving them EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT, i.e. shit. Be smarter than them. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 06:40, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

What exactly is wrong with wanting to ban people like this? Isn't that what the chicken coop is for? It seems like you're trying to undermine the integrity of the facilities we have to deal with users like these just because I'm the one who's using it, and I've had failed cases. Which, sure, is understandable. But this time, I really don't think the user in question has any ground to stand on. - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 06:41, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

I mean, don't get me wrong. I get the whole "Don't pozload my negholep" mentality. I've been more or less working on avoiding these types for a while now, and been mostly constructive on talk pages. But how long are we going to let the poop stick around? At what point does the poop become too toxic and stinky? Are we just going to let it stay there in the middle of our house and pretend it's not there? It gets tiring looking at all the poop that flows through our sewers. Shouldn't we do something about it? - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 06:59, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Without getting involved in the rights and wrongs, the Chicken coop is not "for" banning people.--Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 07:21, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Adam went quiet for a little, turned out he was editing his user page, no doubt a ploy to further attempt to show he is one of "them" and not a piece of shit that Ryulong brought in. http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kitsunelaine&curid=172818&diff=1632446&oldid=1595150

Hey there! If you're clicking this, you're probably wondering who I am. Outside of a dark wiki SJW overloard here to wage ideological war, I mean. (That was sarcasm). Well, I came here because I was interested in the site and wanted to help, but for the longest time I had no idea what pages to edit. If you're here after hearing people complain about a Ryulong character, I am internet friends with this user who, sadly, doesn't edit here any more, largely due to the stress caused by off-site brigading and the lack of tough enough rules to deal with the resulting on-site activity (Not to mention the resulting on-site drama). I'm still around, though, for the most part.

I have an equal amount of interest in both the realms of skepticism and so-called "social justice" topics. Unfortunately, as this site gets more trolls concerned with the latter rather than the former, I find myself more often than not, trying to put the foot down on concern trolling and general bad faith arguments, despite an equal amount of interest in either topic. As a result, I've come to be known as someone who is only here for that sort of thing, even when that isn't true. Indeed, this isn't reflected in my edits, but my edits are reflective of where the overall site interest appears to be, as opposed to anything related to me as an individual.

I have a low tolerance for bullshit (perhaps a little too low, admittedly), and since there is a magnitude of more pertinent internet activity surrounding MRA's, anti-feminists, Redpillers and the like, they come here in an effort to bend the pages to their will, and have harassed many of this site's editors, and several of them off of this site entirely. So if you're gonna float around that space, my advice to you is to be careful, and know what you're getting into.

On the other hand, you might not be interested in my status here as an editor, but in me as a person. Great! (Well, not so great, if you're the stalker type. We get those. Hence the above warning.) But I feel obliged to share a little.

I make music! As an amateur, but I do. I often upload demos of mine regularly to my soundcloud, and I'm really only just starting to get the hang of composition, and production is a whole 'nother can of worms. Anyway, here are a couple of tracks. Both of them are unmixed, so turn down your headphones or speakers a little.

First, some rock stuff;

MENACE:

https://soundcloud.com/https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fkitsunelaine%2Fmenace-unmixed-ver

INFERNO:

https://soundcloud.com/https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fkitsunelaine%2Finferno-unmixed-ver

Something a few months older and less clean (i.e "mixed and produced badly"), but fully composed, so not quite a demo;

RESURRECTION:

https://soundcloud.com/https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fkitsunelaine%2Fresurrection-unmixed-ver

Something a little slower and more focused on atmosphere;

https://soundcloud.com/https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fkitsunelaine%2Fink-unmixed-ver

Something that's incomplete and a bit rougher around the edges-- a true demo;

GENTRIFICAITON:

https://soundcloud.com/https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fkitsunelaine%2Fgentrification-demo

I also do art, something which has been a much longer practice of mine. Though I'm nowhere near a level where I'd call myself fully competent, I have a lot of kinks to work out still (such as facial construction). Have a drawing. (Just the one, though. Been mostly focusing on practice lately, so I haven't had much time to goof around with fancy shading and the like.) http://i.imgur.com/zFsDGh4.jpg

Adam decides he'll let HuskyHarlot off the hook, for now. http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kitsunelaine&curid=172819&diff=1632450&oldid=1632444

I've decided I'm gonna drop this for now. It's not worth pursuing. I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall with you guys sometimes, and I know y'all mean well, but I feel like we as a community need to put our heads together and do something about our standards on the type of people we let hang around on our talk pages, and what we will and won't let slide. It appears I have a lot of reputation building to do before I can get you guys to trust me on this, so I'mma work on that. For now, though, I'm going to treat it as if the poop doesn't stink up the whole house. I brought a nose clip. - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 08:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...otato&curid=159101&diff=1632451&oldid=1631132

On your views, r.e: politics
I'm curious. Why do you think that politics is the root cause of the drama the site has been facing lately, and not the kinds of people certain topics attract? Explain your stance here a little, if you wish to do so. There's definitely something wrong here, but I'm not entirely sure it's the subjects the site's tackling as opposed to what it does and doesn't let users get away with. Mostly, I think there's a nice common ground the two of us can settle on regarding our difference on this matter. Thanks for your time. - Kitsunelaine 「SJW Illuminati shill.」 09:10, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

 

[Adamska]

So the drama from my previous post (Adam arguing with HuskyHarlot over Whor/Gamergate/ideologies) escalated after HuskyHarlot mentioned Ryulong. Adam claims to be writing a "professional VN" - visual novel presumably. (@Adamska has previously collected examples of Adam Morland's artwork and writing in the Michael Cohen/Ryulong thread)

Oh God, Adamu's doing a VN? The idiot can't even a fucking story or art piece, let alone program something like that. It also proves he's pretty much a terrible pervert considering VNs are very much a porn genre.

And because imgur ate my info dump and Adamu is causing shit again, I'm abusing Mega to show you guys Adamu's writing talent and art talent, since he's done pictures and comics. Hint: It's all shit.
https://mega.nz/#F!dc8y0AaZ!XNS0rJ1Asr3dvVrNb-X--g