Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[Neurotypical Mantis]

Those are proboscises. They are supposed to be noses but they didn’t form correctly.

well i think they formed perfectly. little evolved proboscis monkeys

 

[Jeep1971]

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This is how different degrees of holoprosencephaly (when the brain hemispheres don’t fully divide) cause the facial feature to not fully spread out.

I think cleft palate surgery has been very much improved over the years. I know an older person born with one and the scars are very obvious.
I've also seen a little girl locally who was born that way and you can't even tell unless you know.
I wonder how they dealt with it before modern surgery was a thing?

 

[Oracular Slug]

I think cleft palate surgery has been very much improved over the years. I know an older person born with one and the scars are very obvious.
I've also seen a little girl locally who was born that way and you can't even tell unless you know.
I wonder how they dealt with it before modern surgery was a thing?

Depends if the baby could suckle, which isn’t a given when the nose hole is also the mouth hole. If not, dead baby.

 

[AnOminous]

I think cleft palate surgery has been very much improved over the years. I know an older person born with one and the scars are very obvious.

Most cleft palates aren't because of holoprosencephaly, though, they're just cosmetic and isolated. With holoprosencephaly, the baby is fucked inside and out, from a very early stage of development before the neural crest becomes fully differentiated. Luckily most of these miscarry long before birth.

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

Depends if the baby could suckle, which isn’t a given when the nose hole is also the mouth hole. If not, dead baby.

just squirt it in there

 

[swiggety_swoogitty]

CDD is so fucking spooky. Sometimes I wonder if run of the mill autists have the same thing; they just got it as babies instead of preschoolers, so they couldn’t let anyone know. The early developmental progress could be explained as autistic scripting, like you said. Severe autism is bad but I think it’s easier to stomach when thinking of them as always being in their own autistic world and not as normies gone horribly wrong.

This is basically correct: they are born with autism. They don’t really “regress,” or suddenly develop it. they just stop meeting certain developmental milestones. An untrained eye can see the baby as making normal progress, because the child does appear to hit some or many milestones, but people who know what to look for can spot it quite early.

One of the biggest early tells is a lack of reciprocal attention sharing for non-utilitarian purposes. In other words, a typically developing baby will direct your attention to things it wants or needs (I want a cookie) but they will also try to share attention with you just for the sake of sharing an experience (wow, look at this toy!), and they will respond to your bid to share attention. Babies with autism do the latter much less often. They share attention when they want or need something, and they don’t really want to engage in that joint attention otherwise. They might show you the toy because they want you to do something with it for them, but not because they just want to marvel at this toy with you. Also, more severe autism is recognizable much earlier. There are other early tells too that vary from person to person (sensitivity to touch or noise for example).


it’s why it’s easy to convince people that vaccines cause autism…the vaccine schedule coincides with the age where missed milestones/autistic behavior is more obvious. People attribute the “regression” to the vaccine but they haven’t really regressed. They either never met a milestone at all and it’s clear now thst it’s not just regular variation (eg completely nonverbal) or they appeared to meet the milestone but didn’t really (eg the child is hyper verbal and therefore appears to have exceeded the milestone, but as they age it’s apparent the verbal abilities are characteristic of autistic speech.)

 

[booklover]

I think cleft palate surgery has been very much improved over the years. I know an older person born with one and the scars are very obvious.
I've also seen a little girl locally who was born that way and you can't even tell unless you know.
I wonder how they dealt with it before modern surgery was a thing?

To this day, people who have gone to Third World countries tell stories about seeing facial differences like this that in America, or even any other developed nation, may well have been remedied before the baby left the hospital as a newborn. I know someone who in recent years adopted 3 girls from China, and one of them was a toddler with an unrepaired cleft lip and palate, and after they left China, they could tell that the people who saw her didn't know what they were looking at, because they had never seen anything like that before. They went to a pediatric plastic surgery center, and they'd never operated on an American child that old with that disorder, either. Now, she just has a slightly flat nose and a scar on her lip, and that's it. Anyway, if the people who have those differences are asked about them, in many cases they may not even know that they CAN be repaired! This is one of the duties performed by Operation Smile.

One of the other girls started regressing in her behaviors several years ago, and tests revealed that she had a blood vessel abnormality/brain tumor called Moyamoya syndrome after the doctor who discovered it. Naturally, she found this much more amusing than her parents did, and even renamed one of her stuffed animals "Moyamoya." The tumor was successfully removed, and she regained her lost functions and as of now can expect to live a normal life.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

This one looks like one of those garbage pail kids.

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

This is basically correct: they are born with autism. They don’t really “regress,” or suddenly develop it. they just stop meeting certain developmental milestones

Do you mean for autism only, or for CDD also? Because it seems from the articles shared that CDD definitely has a period of acute regression where previous skills are lost.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

That story is BEYOND fucked. Louisiana also voted that abortion has no constitutional protection. so people, more than the courts, decided that.

There have been several articles I've showed others - to snide mockery - on how one women was left to bleed NINE DAYS from a botched Miscarriage in Missouri. Abortion is banned there. Despite it being a miscarriage, they refused to give her the medication to end it. Why? Because they still view it as murder despite their insistence it isn't. The hospital refused to help her.

Another Texan woman, whose child was wanted, had a fetus with no cardiac activity. Three ultrasounds were demanded of her. Abortion refused, despite it being a dead baby. They wanted her to give birth to a dead child.

Another woman had a dead fetus and instead of an abortion...they induced labor. This woman was screaming in agony over giving birth to a dead baby. Knowingly. At least in ancient times you had a vague hope it was alive.

They do this to raise birth rates. Traumatizing women causes birth rates to crash.

I'll accept them too. You cannot be a follower of Christ while demanding a woman give up her labour for a dead fetus. They did this during the stem cell thing in the early 2000s: they got it banned because pro lifers were crying about fetal tissue. The WI-38 cell line also used fetal cells, yet those fetuses died to save HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS. Maybe billions. They weren't flushed away.

The men who sign these bills all have one thing in common: they all want healthy babies. The MOMENT a spud is born they are the first to strike down any maternity care or help, citing "it's too expensive."

Well, they can fucking take it then. Since you wanted it born so badly.

Some pro life people are women because they think women who get abortions are sluts who get what’s coming to them. They seem unaware of all the potential ways a planned pregnancy can go wrong.

Some CDD researchers think it’s totally unrelated to autism and it’s only that it seems superficially similar.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

This is basically correct: they are born with autism. They don’t really “regress,” or suddenly develop it. they just stop meeting certain developmental milestones. An untrained eye can see the baby as making normal progress, because the child does appear to hit some or many milestones

Chris didn’t say “monkey” when he was an infant. He made a noise that sounded like Monkey. He was speaking in the sense that a parrot can speak. Babysitter incident was his vaccine.

 

[Oracular Slug]

Oh good, it’s back, the one place I can freely say that that kid absolutely does look like a cabbage patch doll

 

[jimothyleery]

I understand why some of these disability moms create accounts and share every minute of their unique lives: they are lonely, socially isolated and in desperate need of any sort of attention.

But I am curious to see if or how this evolves in the decades to come. The semi-'cute' disabled kids, like the Cabbage Patch boy from a few posts ago, are going to be a lot more awkward when they are still drooling at age 17 -- and there's no longer any longshot hope that they'll wake up one day as a normal-ish kid.

 

[Oracular Slug]

I understand why some of these disability moms create accounts and share every minute of their unique lives: they are lonely, socially isolated and in desperate need of any sort of attention.

But I am curious to see if or how this evolves in the decades to come. The semi-'cute' disabled kids, like the Cabbage Patch boy from a few posts ago, are going to be a lot more awkward when they are still drooling at age 17 -- and there's no longer any longshot hope that they'll wake up one day as a normal-ish kid.

Hm, I was gonna say they’ll just end up neglected in an underfunded understaffed home, but maybe their terminally online mothers will actually do some good if they expose nursing homes for the (too often literal) shitshow they are.

Holy run-on sentence Batman! Sorry not sorry

 

[swiggety_swoogitty]

Do you mean for autism only, or for CDD also? Because it seems from the articles shared that CDD definitely has a period of acute regression where previous skills are lost.

Just autism

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Some pro life people are women because they think women who get abortions are sluts who get what’s coming to them. They seem unaware of all the potential ways a planned pregnancy can go wrong.

Some CDD researchers think it’s totally unrelated to autism and it’s only that it seems superficially similar.

CDD and autism are a bit outside my area of research, but for what it's worth, I also believe that they are two distinct disorders. My suspicion is that CDD is a neurometabolic disorder, the underlying cause of which has not been identified yet.

 

[GenociderSyo]

CDD and Autism are considered 2 seperate disorders.

CDD tends to hit later by about four and is globally destructive almost always involving epilepsy as well. They can have a rapid decline in days and lose all skills. Due to it happening later the children are aware of the changes and most are terrified. Their is also beleif that hallucinations occur during and after the decline.

I have worked with an adult with CDD. It was hard because she truly was living in her own world yet at same time was here. I had to guide her down steps because she had no idea of where her body was in space and would not step down. She would make full eye contact and just start rambling in nonsense words (Aphasia). One of the sweetest people I worked with, but harder then the autistic children because she was there yet so far away. And she seemed almost desperate to be understood.

 

[Android raptor]

Yeah CDD sounds like some kind of unidentified metabolic disorder or something, where they can't make or process certain molecules and the damage builds up over time.

Meanwhile the 'tism is a brain wiring you're born with that's highly genetic. A shitton of autistic people have at least one autistic parent, even if neither of their parents have been diagnosed. Autistic moms especially often miss being diagnosed, or are only diagnosed after one of their kids is, due to the issues with underdiagnoses of autistic girls and women.

 

[ZsaZsaBinks]

Going to disagree with everyone here. I believe vaccines are linked to ASD and that many a normal infant became autistic afterwards. It isn’t genetic, but it has a genetic predisposition as people with mutations in the MTHFR are more prone to developing ASD. ASD isn’t just a brain thing but affects the digestive, immune, and mitochondrial systems as well. ASD is more common in males as males have fewer oxidative fighting properties than females.

 

[booklover]

That story is BEYOND fucked. Louisiana also voted that abortion has no constitutional protection. so people, more than the courts, decided that.

There have been several articles I've showed others - to snide mockery - on how one women was left to bleed NINE DAYS from a botched Miscarriage in Missouri. Abortion is banned there. Despite it being a miscarriage, they refused to give her the medication to end it. Why? Because they still view it as murder despite their insistence it isn't. The hospital refused to help her.

Another Texan woman, whose child was wanted, had a fetus with no cardiac activity. Three ultrasounds were demanded of her. Abortion refused, despite it being a dead baby. They wanted her to give birth to a dead child.

Another woman had a dead fetus and instead of an abortion...they induced labor. This woman was screaming in agony over giving birth to a dead baby. Knowingly. At least in ancient times you had a vague hope it was alive.

They do this to raise birth rates. Traumatizing women causes birth rates to crash.

I'll accept them too. You cannot be a follower of Christ while demanding a woman give up her labour for a dead fetus. They did this during the stem cell thing in the early 2000s: they got it banned because pro lifers were crying about fetal tissue. The WI-38 cell line also used fetal cells, yet those fetuses died to save HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS. Maybe billions. They weren't flushed away.

The men who sign these bills all have one thing in common: they all want healthy babies. The MOMENT a spud is born they are the first to strike down any maternity care or help, citing "it's too expensive."

Well, they can fucking take it then. Since you wanted it born so badly.

The WI-38 cells were obtained from a 4-month-old female fetus who was legally aborted in Sweden in 1962, from a mother who was trying to flee an abusive marriage. The cells were obtained without the mother's consent, which at the time was not a breach of medical ethics, and the mother, who last I heard is still alive and wishes to be identified only as "Mrs. X", knows about all this, and is grateful that her tragedy (she wanted the baby but just felt that she couldn't have it) has led to so much good.

Rumors have floated that the fetus was aborted to obtain those cells, and nothing could have been further from the truth.