Mega Rad Gun Thread

People who buy Century guns or turkshit are retards, people who buy both and expect them to be good, reliable guns are Chris Chan tier delusional retards. I've seen people buy Caniks that immediately broke firing pins within their first range trip and we've all heard stories about the ammunition quality roaches put out among other things.

Ap5 issues do sadden me a little. HK53s are the best looking roller guns and it was announced Century was considering restarting their importation.

I guess I'm a triple retard, because I own two Caniks and a Wasr. My SFX Rival is the nicest out-of-the-box handgun I've ever shot in it's price range, and I'll defend it's good name until my dying breath. I agree on the ammo though. The things people will risk to save an extra two cents a round...
 
I've been reading on HKPro that apparently the CAI AP5 (MKE MP5 imports from Turkey) are having a ton of issues. Lots of people posting threads about their $1500 gun fucking up on the first range trip.

How is it statistically possible for CAI to fuck up this much for so long and still be in business?
IDK why people don't just go real HK with the SP5 or go with a nice 9mm AR platform, CMMG makes a realy nice delayed blowback 9mm AR upper imho, I love mine.
 
Today, there was a hearing for the ban on regular ARs in Commiefornia.

The state asked for a delay till March 2023 so that they could research laws from history and tradition that prove gun control laws are a thing outside of racism.

The judge gave the state only an extra 45 days to file their briefs.

Calguns and Caguns are still doompilled cuckolds who will just not put regular AR furniture on their rifles since the state is a lawless shithole each passing day and they deserve being beaten by Newsom for being cucks.
 
During the downtime, i got almost everything for my Aero M5 build in and put together - I seem to have misplaced the barrel nut shims that came with the handguard (and need a couple to time the nut correctly) and my chosen muzzle device didn't come with a crush washer, so those are the last bits still in transit.

Full.parts list:
- Aero Precision M5 upper/lower receiver, 15" Atlas S-One handguard, LPK, CH and BCG
- 18" Ballistic Advantage Hanson profile SS .308 barrel with pinned GB
- CMC 2.5# single stage trigger
- KVP AR-10 buffer assembly kit and linear compensator
- BCM Mod 1 stock and B5 Systems Type 23 grip

Still debating optics, but it'll either be some flavor of 4-16-ish scope or a LPVO.
 
@Null any comment by one of the nation's largest gun control groups targeting payment processors to destroy 2A rights.

https://twitter.com/GiffordsCourage/status/1563961112126754820 (Archive)

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https://www.gunsdownamerica.org/campaigns/credit-cards/ (Archive)

WHY ARE CREDIT CARD COMPANIES EMPOWERING MASS SHOOTERS?
Between 2007 and 2020, the killers in at least five major mass shootings used credit cards to finance their deadly rampages. These individuals exploited the banking system to purchase large quantities of firearms and ammunition – and the financial industry has the power to stop them.

But Visa, MasterCard, and American Express are blocking an effort to track suspicious firearm and ammunition purchases and preventing law enforcement from identifying and stopping gun crimes.

Since 2018, Guns Down America and our partners have urged the financial industry to prevent bad actors from abusing the banking system to obtain large quantities of firearms and ammunition and using the firepower they purchase on bank credit to take innocent lives. These killers often follow known patterns of suspicious behavior:

In 2012, the shooter who killed 12 people in Aurora, CO charged $9,000 on credit cards to purchase guns, ammunition, and body armor in just 2 months.
In 2016, the shooter who killed 49 people in Orlando, FL charged $26,000 on credit cards to purchase guns and ammunition in just 12 days.
In 2017, the shooter who killed 60 people in Las Vegas, NV charged $94,000 on credit cards to purchase guns and ammunition over a period of 12 months.
Banks can and must flag such suspicious activity in the same way that they report known patterns of identity theft, fraud, or human trafficking to law enforcement officials.

But to do so, the nation’s nearly 9,000 stand-alone gun and ammunition stores must be categorized under a new and unique Merchant Category Code within the financial system. Since no such code currently exists and gun stores are sometimes classified as “sporting goods” retailers, banks have no way of knowing that bad actors are suspiciously purchasing thousands of dollars of firearms and ammunition over a short period of time.

Guns Down America is working closely with Amalgamated Bank and Giffords to establish the necessary Merchant Category Code. But Visa, MasterCard, and American Express are actively blocking our efforts and standing in the way of life-saving reforms.

As Amalgamated Bank CEO Priscilla Sims Brown put it, the financial industry has "an obligation to address crime that is being facilitated through our system.”

Urge Visa, MasterCard, and American Express to stop empowering mass shooters and do their part to keep us safe from preventable gun violence.


 
I've been reading on HKPro that apparently the CAI AP5 (MKE MP5 imports from Turkey) are having a ton of issues. Lots of people posting threads about their $1500 gun fucking up on the first range trip.

How is it statistically possible for CAI to fuck up this much for so long and still be in business?
I got my AP5, functions flawlessly so far (200rnds). Reading of other people having problems made me apprehensive, but I cannot argue with a machine that never failed during this break-in period.

IDK why people don't just go real HK with the SP5 or go with a nice 9mm AR platform, CMMG makes a realy nice delayed blowback 9mm AR upper imho, I love mine.
Basically, I can buy two or more clones for the price of another real HK firearm, and I already have one 9mm AR in the vault.

Over 20 years ago. I bought a Century Arms HK91 clone with cast aluminum receiver from a pawn shop. Took it to a range immediately, and whenever I pulled the trigger, it never ignited a cartridge. I explained my problem to the pawnbroker, who had an identical rifle in stock, and accepted a swap. The second rifle would fire - but I learned, after cleaning, that a bunch of aluminum shavings were being generated by the steel bolt carrier eroding the receiver from the inside with each shot.

I sold the rifle as soon as I figured that out.
 
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HK snobs refuse to acknowledge that HK is a garbage company that makes mediocre products. I'd buy a Turkshit VPoor9 clone from Sarsilmaz over an HK product, that's just my stance.
HKs are decent, they are just overpriced and overrated, like everything on the internet with a cult fanbase. Roller locks are my favorite mechanism, the way they work is so fucking cool, but I wouldn't call them mediocre.

Turkshit is hit or miss. I've seen good and I've seen terrible.
I got my AP5, functions flawlessly so far (200rnds). Reading of other people having problems made me apprehensive, but I cannot argue with a machine that never failed during this break-in period.


Basically, I can buy two or more clones for the price of another real HK firearm, and I already have one 9mm AR in the vault.
I'm glad yours has no issues. What sucks though is if you ever develop one, you are way better off seeking out a HK certified armorer than you are sending it back to CAI. CAI is known for fucking up guns worse than they got them.
 
this is nothing new. for the last couple decades the gun/ammo industry has been pushed out of normal commercial channels unless you're really really big. i've had to change banks 3 times and pretty much entirely stop dealing with Square, Stripe, or Clover since they (and their partner banks) lump me in with casinos and brothels as a "high risk" business, so i have to pay a ridiculous 6% per transaction for online stuff. closed my web storefront because of it. there's also the local stuff i have to contend with that waste state time investigating, or giving me grief when renewing stuff. even had to close up and move a rented warehouse because it didn't like my business, despite me only storing chairs, tables, and random extra retail stuff in it. god help i store a heat shrink wrap table in there, it could influence children into repackaging opened products!
 
this is nothing new. for the last couple decades the gun/ammo industry has been pushed out of normal commercial channels unless you're really really big. i've had to change banks 3 times and pretty much entirely stop dealing with Square, Stripe, or Clover since they (and their partner banks) lump me in with casinos and brothels as a "high risk" business, so i have to pay a ridiculous 6% per transaction for online stuff. closed my web storefront because of it. there's also the local stuff i have to contend with that waste state time investigating, or giving me grief when renewing stuff. even had to close up and move a rented warehouse because it didn't like my business, despite me only storing chairs, tables, and random extra retail stuff in it. god help i store a heat shrink wrap table in there, it could influence children into repackaging opened products!
Operation Chokepoint, The Federal Program which caused all this shit, was/is a real bastard.

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Gun question for you Ruger 10/22 nerds. I know there is a pretty strong aftermarket. Is there anything out there that is really worth the cost for an already decent plinking rifle?
 
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