Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Icterus]

He was very self conscious about the fact that this video “underperformed.” He had a litany of excuses. One being that the previous video over performed, so that’s why this one didn’t do as well. Yeah, okay. And that people were outside because it’s August and not watching online content. You can see in real time how his narc tendencies won’t allow him to grapple with setbacks or ego bruises. I think he also said it was because he didn’t say “hi, I’m Abigail Thorn” like he normally does in the beginning. Seriously, there were tons of excuses.

That the previous video would have "over performed" is blatantly false. As displayed in the image below Mr. Tubular's growth in viewership has been essentially 0 these past 2 years. (Disregarding the two notable exceptions the view count has been very stable)



It does really look like the new video is "under" performing according to his usual standards though.

I'm excited as well. Does Nebula offer free trials?

No free trials

 

[AfghanBlue]

Did you know that Trey Parker and Matt Stone were both tripping balls on acid in that photo? It’s a pretty funny story actually:

Choob could never lmao

The description of coming out of the limo into the waiting press gave me sympathy cold sweats.
It’s enough just walking out of your own front door on acid

 

[Norwegian Woo]

You can see in real time how his narc tendencies won’t allow him to grapple with setbacks or ego bruises. I think he also said it was because he didn’t say “hi, I’m Abigail Thorn” like he normally does in the beginning. Seriously, there were tons of excuses.

Tubey schizo arc in the future?
If he's willing to blame not saying "hi" in the beginning, and anything besides the fact he made a boring-ass video, then I wonder what he'll have to come up with when all his videos underperform.

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

The description of coming out of the limo into the waiting press gave me sympathy cold sweats.
It’s enough just walking out of your own front door on acid

Can't even imagine the potential anxiety in a crowd like that...you'd have to be in a good mood going in to pull that off, lol.

Tubey schizo arc in the future?
If he's willing to blame not saying "hi" in the beginning, and anything besides the fact he made a boring-ass video, then I wonder what he'll have to come up with when all his videos underperform.

"Contra has been hacking the YouTube algorithm, hiding my videos in suggestions and replacing them with her own."

 

[narcissistic injury]

Can't even imagine the potential anxiety in a crowd like that...you'd have to be in a good mood going in to pull that off, lol.

"Contra has been hacking the YouTube algorithm, hiding my videos in suggestions and replacing them with her own."

Omg his psychosis would totally revolve around contra hahahahhahahaha

 

[AfghanBlue]

Omg his psychosis would totally revolve around contra hahahahhahahaha

The best will be when his popularity/reach gets even lower- like he’s already below where he was a year and a half ago- probably before when he trooned out actually, because at least he was on somewhat of a projectory prior to then- could still carve out a niche for himself as a high-school level, maybe kids TV sociology/ philosophy concepts guy.. before he went full AGP, dive in quality, fetish jokes content..

but me made his steering choice and has now rammed himself into MtF Cul-de-sac, where there’s nowhere really to go, and he’s dedicated himself to arguing about none existent trans inequalities online.

He’s kind of gone where he can go with that- there’s no more press to be squeezed from it, he is a crap actor and sucked in the one or two hype-moment parts he had .. the STP will naturally suck.

Yeah, the descent into majority anonymity will be maddening- although as we see (RE his “brand” of being unverified) he will try to reverse and self style himself as more the rebel.. which doesn’t really gel with also being a beautiful stylish rich biological woman, but oh well, it hasn’t bothered him before.
It will just be on a slightly lowering level, consistently.
He has said he doesn’t have friends.
His new crop are new, and if he couldn’t keep them before, I don’t see much hope of him succeeding this time around.

It could get very dark in that vast cranium. When all your light must come from the adulation of those you don’t care about, and swat away the affection (a la tumblr, reddit) of those fools who do try to genuinely like you.

 

[Puddleduck]

To those who know how to find such numbers, how is his Patreon doing? Did he get more numbers from his recent begging?

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

To those who know how to find such numbers, how is his Patreon doing? Did he get more numbers from his recent begging?

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Basically, he got a big boost when he first came out as trans, but has consistently been falling for quite a while (all Patreons fall at the start of the month as subscriptions end, but he never regains the same level). He's not quite back at the levels he was at pre-troon out but he's not far off. I wonder how many of his old fans will have left - I suspect a lot of people just find "Abigail" creepy. While his pre-troon graph was moving slowly, it was at least upwards if a bit stagnant.

 

[admiral]

I'll give this fan one thing:

It actually looks like Olly in every single pose. There's obviously some slightly flattering editing to make him look better (like the hips on the middle one and the reduced jaw on all of them), but that's unmistakably Olly.

At least they didn't warp him into some hot curvy woman that looks nothing like him as his other fanartists do.

The piccasso and the AGP smirk with the hat look like him, but the others don't. The artist made his eyes bigger and his nose smaller and, as you say, shrunk the jaw. I still can't get over how much of a narc you'd have to be to depict yourself as Madame X considering the history of the painting and what it did to her. He obviously chose it because he though it'd make him look sexy and mysterious but he fails to realise that dressing up as a woman and putting yourself into a position where you can be closely scrutinised in the same pose and posture only highlights all the ways that his mannish features betray him. Madame X is so pale and almost transluscent like marble, her waist is tiny like it's being held by invisible hands. She looks unreal and as light as sea foam, wheras Ollie looks unavoidably large and solid. It's maybe work if the person presenting was more relaxed and self-aware, but Ollie is trying so painfully hard to look feminine and alluring that it just comes across as pitiful.

Yuck at the lesbian colour scheme also.

 

[Tombigbee]

I’m sorry, I have to revisit this portion of the live stream. I wish I knew how to clip it. 1:09:20 to about 1:11:35.

Spoiler

A chatter named Diana Rivera leaves a large superchat donation, which this person has done several times before. Oliver feigns like he’s going to cry, and asks if Diana is taking care of themself? Cause what, he actually thinks this person is foregoing their food, shelter, and bodily needs so they can support his channel??? And if he does think that, is it ethical to accept a donation like that from someone who is clearly unwell mentally?

He’s just so insufferably cringe and phony. He’s done this routine many times but he really kicked it up a notch with this one.

A normal person would either assume that Diana is wealthy and just say thank you for the donation or if one did have an inkling that this Diana is unwell, you should return the donation privately, or check in with them to make sure it wasn’t a typo or a mistake or someone who is not mentally well.

Oliver made a big deal in this stream about whether or not he could do meet and greets after the performances of thr play. He said it was because of security risks, (specifically involving him, like he’s Beyoncé.). I mean I agree a nutter with an anti trans agenda could threaten him but virtually the entire cast is trans, so they are all at some risk of that. Really anyone is who deals with the public. Oliver wants to imply that he’s unique though. But my point is if he’s so concerned about those types of issues you’d think he’d be more tactful with the Diana Rivera donation. Maybe Diana is a potential stalker or obsessive or whatever.

But AS ALWAYS, his narc ways can’t be resisted and he puts on this insanely phony act of crying and pretending to care about this rando who just (once again) threw a huge chunk of cash at him. Oliver thinks it’s possible that Diana is eating cat food in order to support PhilosophyTube and all Oliver can do is pretend to bat his false eyelashes and act like he’s going to cry and speak in his most disingenuous Jackie Kennedy-esque troon voice. Creepy, narcissistic, and selfish. AGP freak![\SPOILER]

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

I’m glad that even when I liked a lot of BreadTube (oh my God, total power-level, exaggerated embarrassment, etcetera) I’d never gotten around to Olly’s stuff. I imagine him turning into Abigail would’ve been a precise emotional analogue to those parents who thought their child had been replaced by fairies. It almost seems like a social hostage situation. The person whose content you’ve enjoyed suddenly becomes a bad piece of 24 hour performance art, and if you admit it’s not a good change, you’re a bigot.

 

[narcissistic injury]

Holy fuck listening to the livestream. 16 mins in and he’s STILL talking about underperforming

You guys weren’t kidding

Narc injuried again

 

[ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes]

I’m sorry, I have to revisit this portion of the live stream. I wish I knew how to clip it. 1:09:20 to about 1:11:35

I got you, fam

(I just use the screen record function on phone or tablet and then trim the length and crop the image)

Olly is is shit actor. Really shit. It’s so insincere, you’d have to be *really* autistic not to see right through him.

 

[narcissistic injury]

I’m sorry, I have to revisit this portion of the live stream. I wish I knew how to clip it. 1:09:20 to about 1:11:35.

Spoiler

A chatter named Diana Rivera leaves a large superchat donation, which this person has done several times before. Oliver feigns like he’s going to cry, and asks if Diana is taking care of themself? Cause what, he actually thinks this person is foregoing their food, shelter, and bodily needs so they can support his channel??? And if he does think that, is it ethical to accept a donation like that from someone who is clearly unwell mentally?

He’s just so insufferably cringe and phony. He’s done this routine many times but he really kicked it up a notch with this one.

A normal person would either assume that Diana is wealthy and just say thank you for the donation or if one did have an inkling that this Diana is unwell, you should return the donation privately, or check in with them to make sure it wasn’t a typo or a mistake or someone who is not mentally well.

Oliver made a big deal in this stream about whether or not he could do meet and greets after the performances of thr play. He said it was because of security risks, (specifically involving him, like he’s Beyoncé.). I mean I agree a nutter with an anti trans agenda could threaten him but virtually the entire cast is trans, so they are all at some risk of that. Really anyone is who deals with the public. Oliver wants to imply that he’s unique though. But my point is if he’s so concerned about those types of issues you’d think he’d be more tactful with the Diana Rivera donation. Maybe Diana is a potential stalker or obsessive or whatever.

But AS ALWAYS, his narc ways can’t be resisted and he puts on this insanely phony act of crying and pretending to care about this rando who just (once again) threw a huge chunk of cash at him. Oliver thinks it’s possible that Diana is eating cat food in order to support PhilosophyTube and all Oliver can do is pretend to bat his false eyelashes and act like he’s going to cry and speak in his most disingenuous Jackie Kennedy-esque troon voice. Creepy, narcissistic, and selfish. AGP freak![\SPOILER]

That person donates a large amount every single time. I wonder if it’s Olly himself. I’ve noted it here before. I’m serious. Every single live stream this individual does a huge super chat so Olly can feign humility and gratitude.

These streams are such a farce. They’re so deliberately planned out

 

[ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes]

Maybe Olly gets his johns to pay for sexual services through superchats for money laundering purposes?

 

[The Best of Me]

I’m sorry, I have to revisit this portion of the live stream. I wish I knew how to clip it. 1:09:20 to about 1:11:35.

Spoiler

A chatter named Diana Rivera leaves a large superchat donation, which this person has done several times before. Oliver feigns like he’s going to cry, and asks if Diana is taking care of themself? Cause what, he actually thinks this person is foregoing their food, shelter, and bodily needs so they can support his channel??? And if he does think that, is it ethical to accept a donation like that from someone who is clearly unwell mentally?

He’s just so insufferably cringe and phony. He’s done this routine many times but he really kicked it up a notch with this one.

A normal person would either assume that Diana is wealthy and just say thank you for the donation or if one did have an inkling that this Diana is unwell, you should return the donation privately, or check in with them to make sure it wasn’t a typo or a mistake or someone who is not mentally well.

Oliver made a big deal in this stream about whether or not he could do meet and greets after the performances of thr play. He said it was because of security risks, (specifically involving him, like he’s Beyoncé.). I mean I agree a nutter with an anti trans agenda could threaten him but virtually the entire cast is trans, so they are all at some risk of that. Really anyone is who deals with the public. Oliver wants to imply that he’s unique though. But my point is if he’s so concerned about those types of issues you’d think he’d be more tactful with the Diana Rivera donation. Maybe Diana is a potential stalker or obsessive or whatever.

But AS ALWAYS, his narc ways can’t be resisted and he puts on this insanely phony act of crying and pretending to care about this rando who just (once again) threw a huge chunk of cash at him. Oliver thinks it’s possible that Diana is eating cat food in order to support PhilosophyTube and all Oliver can do is pretend to bat his false eyelashes and act like he’s going to cry and speak in his most disingenuous Jackie Kennedy-esque troon voice. Creepy, narcissistic, and selfish. AGP freak![\SPOILER]

Ahahahaha!
At around 1:06:00 he claims to think his smirking 'fan' art resembles "Marco[sic] Robbie as Louis Lane".................

 

[Tombigbee]

He was confused for a minute. He goes on to clarify that he thinks he looks like Margot Kidder when she played Lois Lane in 1978.

Spoiler

Uncanny

[\SPOILER]

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

Olly's grandiosity is really impressive. He really thinks he'd be in danger at meet and greets lmao. Does he imagine some crazy stalker trying to stab him or something? How about get more than 60 people to show up first eh Olly?

And Margot Kidder . You can really see that he has no friends from these random statements he makes. All of them have you going "Who even says that?"
Well, someone who has no friends, that's who. Friends would cut down your ego by brutally insulting and laughing at you for sharing such dumb thoughts.

 

[narcissistic injury]

I got you, fam

(I just use the screen record function on phone or tablet and then trim the length and crop the image)

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Olly is is shit actor. Really shit. It’s so insincere, you’d have to be *really* autistic not to see right through him.

What a fucking retard. He’s not stunned. This exact same user donates to the cause of chube via livestream super chat EVERY SINGLE TIME. And he must know it (because it’s probably him doing it himself) so why doesn’t he ever make a note of like this dedicated fan rather than feigning surprise as though it’s a brand new experience every time?

Also you can see the beard shadow beautifully in this clip.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

I bet he picked Margot Kidder because she had a husky voice. Because remember, a woman who even slightly diverges from the most specific of gender standards=a man in a dress.