"sometimes people in power abuse that power and no organization or disciplinary proceeding can be reasonably treated as free of taint"
- The Devil's Advocate
Which I'm not seeing in the case of Kopyto, sorry.
"but you didn't seem to understand that Kopyto was not convicted in any court of law as there was never any court case"
- The Devil's Advocate
I understand it quite well. Doesn't matter. He was disbarred by the Canadian version of the bar association. Good enough for me, since it's the correct procedure for such an issue.
"he makes a pretty compelling argument for why Koptyo's intentions matte"
- The Devil's Advocate
And that's something you don't understand. Intentions never matter.
Intentions never matter. Intentions never matter. So it doesn't matter how compelling the argument is. There is only what was done, and can it be proven. This is called being "evidence-based".
"Carey's point is that he also would have done so knowing he might be asking for less than he owed and the circumstances made it impossible for him to know for certain exactly how much time he had worked necessitating estimates that might not be precise. Were there no intent to gain money and it resulted in a net loss on his part then their only argument for misconduct falls apart."
- The Devil's Advocate
Nope, sorry, still doesn't matter. It was against the rules. He broke the rules. He was punished for breaking the rules. That is
all that matters. It's the only thing I care about. --
Castaigne2 (
talk) 06:42, 26 February 2016 (UTC)