Debate Japanese statistical data with Byuu thread posters

[Big Bang]

There's that logical leap again.

2021 data could be used to discredit 2021 data.

Using 2020 data was just Hector grasping at straws.

2019. Explain why there are three missing suicides from the US Vital Statistics. Why is there only one transport accident mentioned when there was two documented from Japan? Where are all the other accidents that are mentioned on the Japan list? And why are there four mentions of drowning from the Vital Statistics when Japan claims there was only one drowning incidence? (This alone would discredit the validity of Japan's vital list from being used as evidence, too)

2019 has discrepancies as well. Because this is not a one-off event, the US Vital Statistics is not reliable as a source to confirm Byuu's death, as Byuu's death may not be recorded for 2021. I can say this with certainty because there are suicides and other deaths missing from the Vital Statistics page that was recorded by Japan. So shut up. In conclusion, neither list should be used to contribute to evidence confirming Byuu's death (or lack thereof).

 

[ScooterL]

2019. Explain why there are three missing suicides from the US Vital Statistics. Explain why there's no falls documented from the US Vital Statistics? Why is there only one transport accident mentioned when there was two documented from Japan? Where are all the other accidents that are mentioned on the Japan list? And why are there four mentions of drowning from the Vital Statistics when Japan claims there was only one drowning incidence? View attachment 3670598
2019 has discrepancies as well. Because this is not a one-off event, the US Vital Statistics is not reliable as a source to confirm Byuu's death, as Byuu's death may not be recorded for 2021. I can say this with certainty because there are suicides and other deaths missing from the Vital Statistics page that was recorded by Japan. So shut up.

Can't wait until you have some 2021 data.

 

[Big Bang]

Can't wait until you have some 2021 data.

The Japan vital list for 2021 will no longer matter as its statistics do not line up with the USA with confirmed types of death. It's not a valid source because of those discrepancies (US: 4 drowning deaths; Japan: 1 drowning death). Unfortunately. I don't like Hector but I'm not going to prop up bullshit to try to make him look bad. You should be looking for the truth, not to 'win'.

 

[ScooterL]

I am only interested in truth. That's why I questioned your silly claim.

 

[Big Bang]

Not sure where your other message went. But you're right, it is the DOS. I misspoke saying DOJ. :/

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I am only interested in truth. That's why I questioned your silly claim.

"Interested in truth" says the person ignoring every information he doesn't like

Not sure where your other message went. But you're right, it is the DOS.

Deleted to avoid the double post that happened as the result of stuff being moved to this thread.

But the DOJ is the one who responded to my initial inquiy, not DOS.

Weird. Thank you for the info.

 

[Big Bang]

"Interested in truth" says the person ignoring every information he doesn't like

Deleted to avoid the double post that happened as the result of stuff being moved to this thread.

Weird. Thank you for the info.

Misspoke. It was Department of State. I don't know why I thought it was DOJ (currently in a service dog case of smashed pitbull deformities with the DOJ so my wires crossed I guess). Hence the edited message.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Misspoke. It was Department of State. I don't know why I thought it was DOJ. Hence the edited message.

Yes, that makes more sense

 

[Noebel]

So, previous year also has some discrepancies. I wonder if we stumbled upon a secret organ trade, or a society of rich esoteric cannibals. It's most likely something mundane, but if this Byuu business led us on a trail of esoteric cannibals, that would be cool.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

So, previous year also has some discrepancies. I wonder if we stumbled upon a secret organ trade, or a society of rich esoteric cannibals. It's most likely something mundane, but if this Byuu business led us on a trail of esoteric cannibals, that would be cool.

Breaking news! One autist at Kiwi Farms, website known for mass autism, single-handedly dismantled CIA's organ trade operations to cannibals living in the famine destroyed parts of the former Soviet Union. The operation, seemingly a successor to Operation Keelhaul, was discovered in a debate on whether not the Farms actually killed a man named Byuu, the situation being quite similar to the occasion where KGB investigated themselves to find out whether or not they killed JFK.

 

[Noebel]

Breaking news! One autist at Kiwi Farms, website known for mass autism, single-handedly dismantled CIA's organ trade operations to cannibals living in the famine destroyed parts of the former Soviet Union. The operation, seemingly a successor to Operation Keelhaul, was discovered in a debate on whether not the Farms actually killed a man named Byuu, the situation being quite similar to the occasion where KGB investigated themselves to find out whether or not they killed JFK.

Narrator: After China-Canadian Confederacy declassified all the relevant documents, this incident became known as Operation NESWalker

 

[St.Davis]

I am only interested in truth. That's why I questioned your silly claim.

Are you just trolling? If so; it's been fairly successful.
The crux of these arguments is that the data from 2019 and 2020 appears to be inaccurate, which casts doubt onto the reliability of the entire system.

Prior years have had errors, it is not at all a leap in logic to conclude that 2021 may also have erroneous data. I'm not sure what your issue with this is exactly: do you believe there is something inherent in 2021 data that would make it unable to be subject to the same types of errors that 2020 and 2019 were?

That said: Byuu didn't kill himself.

 

[Keine]

The data sheets on the Japanese site have tables for delayed registrations of deaths in Japan, ie deaths that occurred a previous year that were reported in 2020 (albeit only for Japanese nationals that I can find) so that could possibly explain the discrepancy between the two sets of data. Of course, this plays into Hector's hand potentially but if we follow his story then law enforcement was aware of Near's death fairly quickly so I don't think it would work as a defense in this case. It does suggest that such things do happen but infrequently. The 2020 data says only about 1500-ish deaths were delayed in reporting, and if the trend is similar for 2021 it's not impossible but highly improbable.
It doesn't give the month of those deaths, only the year. I wouldn't be too surprised if the deaths reported late were from November or December and not reported until January or something which would still be considered as having happened the previous year.

 

[SPhobos]

Aiu ri... aui riiikkkeee... aui rike...

Aiu rike hambagaa.

 

[timewave0]

I expect this post to be poorly received, but I have a feeling that he really did an hero. I have no rational argument to support this claim, it’s just my intuition. Of course, supposing he did kill himself, KF isn’t even in the top five reasons why. I see his statements about KF as nothing more than a parting shot taken so he could feel that his death had meaning.

It’s conceivable that the database isn’t entirely accurate. A while back I tried cross checking some of the incident reports with news stories (mostly US servicemen deaths) and iirc there were some apparent inconsistencies with dates, etc.. It seems very out of character for Japs to mess up record keeping though so I might’ve just fucked up the comparison.

My alternative theory is that he’s alive and only the Near/Byuu persona committed suicide. Considering he told Null that “this [internet persona] is all I have,” the end of his former life and internet presence would represent a true death to him.

 

[Justtocheck]

Okay, we still have to look at the bigger picture.

a) Byuu had faked suicides before.
b) Hector somehow got a confirmation from the police despite not being in the immediate family. Never showed any documentation. Just "verbal confirmation". No idea of the crime scene.
c) No primary sources appeared. No links to any Jap site.

The lack of documentation is what gets me the most. Also, no certificate of death from a doctor, no pictures of a funeral, no documentation of the cremation process. Nothing.

 

[ScooterL]

it’s just my intuition

Your intuition is just as good as any of the speculation that gets posted in the Byuu threads.

 

[Shadow Man Dingo]

Misspoke. It was Department of State. I don't know why I thought it was DOJ (currently in a service dog case of smashed pitbull deformities with the DOJ so my wires crossed I guess). Hence the edited message.

The big one has made more information on the thread than anyone else.

As far as I have found, David is back with Patrick in Ohio and has an active cell number. I called the Japanese police and got nothing from them so I doubt hector got shit from them either so whatever he says is bullshit. If you hire a PI in Japan for searching government posted documents, it will cost you over 10k as they need approved access to government records.

I called a repatriation funeral home about the process of repatriation and it is the normal procedure. David's family would have to relinquish their rights to disposition and the documents be sent to the state department to deal with, this process would not be quick as a Japanese funeral home would require proper authorizations for a cremation to take place. Average time for repatriation would be about 3 weeks or more. Average time for relinquishment of rights of disposition with the federal government involved would take about 3 weeks or more as you need papers signed and an apostille from the state signed and sealed.

 

[Markass the Worst]

As far as I have found, David is back with Patrick in Ohio and has an active cell number.

Source for this? Would also be interested to know how this lines up with Japan's travel restrictions around the same period of time (which I can't find good information on either).

 

[Shadow Man Dingo]

Source for this? Would also be interested to know how this lines up with Japan's travel restrictions around the same period of time (which I can't find good information on either).

It is on the thread go find it. I would reference it but with all the gayops going on I dont want to get an aneurysm trying to link it everytime this shit goes down every 10 seconds. it is unconfirmed as I am not calling that fake dead faggot. The phone numbers were recent info as of march 2022 I think for both Patrick and David. Just search the site for my posts, I am sure you can find it... sorry.