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Question to anyone with any broader knowledge: how well intertwined are these different instances? I don't mean in terms of federation but rather in the sense of how many of them are bedfellows with one another? I hear multiple names thrown around, and take it whichever direction you like, but other than different staff members and rules then what really separates them in this regard? I guess the even more broad question would be: what separates one instance from the other? Poa.st is being painted as a "loli nazi pedo hugbox" of sorts but how would you describe the others as different from the other?

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There's literally nobody gayer than graf on fedi, and it annoys me that she's ruining it for everyone with her pedo antics. Although tbh, there aren't many good instances now that kfcc is down, but shitposter.club is probably the best option for most people (that aren't autistic spergs).
Saw this response. Thanks. I just wanted to know what characteristics they have and mostly if it's a "just depends on who is doing the jannying" factor or not.
 
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Deleted my account, only really used it for when KF was down for the initial week but yeah no need for loli's if it meant I never saw people like Null or Jims posts I don't care its bad enough hanging around animes but I draw the like on loli fags who need to die fast.
You can just follow them from any instance. I follow them on a work safe tech instance on the old mastodon side of the fediverse. Just search @josh@poa.st and @jim@poa.st from anywhere.
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Why would they ban innocent, angelic Eris though? These people are monsters.
Free my nigga Eris. Where is he now?
 
Question to anyone with any broader knowledge: how well intertwined are these different instances? I don't mean in terms of federation but rather in the sense of how many of them are bedfellows with one another? I hear multiple names thrown around, and take it whichever direction you like, but other than different staff members and rules then what really separates them in this regard? I guess the even more broad question would be: what separates one instance from the other? Poa.st is being painted as a "loli nazi pedo hugbox" of sorts but how would you describe the others as different from the other?

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Saw this response. Thanks. I just wanted to know what characteristics they have and mostly if it's a "just depends on who is doing the jannying" factor or not.
There's some intertwining between the administrators of big instances, but right now they're conglomerating on Poast. We'll see how long Poast lasts. If it lasts forever, then the fediverse is basically dead and it's just the grafverse.
 
There's some intertwining between the administrators of big instances, but right now they're conglomerating on Poast. We'll see how long Poast lasts. If it lasts forever, then the fediverse is basically dead and it's just the grafverse.
Not even Graf wants that.
 
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Question to anyone with any broader knowledge: how well intertwined are these different instances? I don't mean in terms of federation but rather in the sense of how many of them are bedfellows with one another? I hear multiple names thrown around, and take it whichever direction you like, but other than different staff members and rules then what really separates them in this regard? I guess the even more broad question would be: what separates one instance from the other? Poa.st is being painted as a "loli nazi pedo hugbox" of sorts but how would you describe the others as different from the other?

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Saw this response. Thanks. I just wanted to know what characteristics they have and mostly if it's a "just depends on who is doing the jannying" factor or not.
There's the pro tranny mastodon side, and then the pleroma + soapbox side. On the pleroma + soapbox side, things are a lot more open, but it then divides based on obvious pedophilia (baest, varishangout, youjolove, etc) in increasing order. The strongest fedi connections on that side are graf (poast), sjw (baest), and p (fse). There's a lot more to it though.
 
So is Null officially through with the transgender lobby's assault on freedom and democracy or is this shit still ongoing? Because if it is, then Null is strong enough to take them head-on because the motherfucker self-hosts.
 
There's the pro tranny mastodon side, and then the pleroma + soapbox side. On the pleroma + soapbox side, things are a lot more open, but it then divides based on obvious pedophilia (baest, varishangout, youjolove, etc) in increasing order. The strongest fedi connections on that side are graf (poast), sjw (baest), and p (fse). There's a lot more to it though.
Graf has also donated to FSE and bae.st and some other instances if I recall correctly.
 
So is Null officially through with the transgender lobby's assault on freedom and democracy or is this shit still ongoing? Because if it is, then Null is strong enough to take them head-on because the motherfucker self-hosts.
His current strategy is to have a bunch of services host the farms and see which ones survive the onslaught of tranny complaints
 
masochi.st
beefyboys.win
posting.lolicon.rocks (I think, although the admin of that, s8n, bans lolicon)

A bunch more iirc.
Cross-referencing that with the list, it's alleged to be "dox" / "dox" / a specific pedo respectively. Do you have some context for those for those who aren't familiar with non-Bardfinn janny drama?

I joined someone else's node and they defederated me personally for ban evasion.
I guess I don't really get your argument here. You annoyed Poast users until you got banned, then you made an account elsewhere, which is still banned from Poast. You should still be able to interact with Poast objects, but nobody on Poast can interact with yours. I don't think people accumulating on a single instance is healthy because it provides an opportunity for censorship, but graf has been frequently reposting a long note essentially saying to please make your own instance.

He posted images you can find on google by literally searching his name.
They do have this in the rules though:
Do not post content that identifies anonymous or pseudonymous people unless they have willingly and publicly published that content themselves.

I don't think the rule is really productive, but it seems clear enough to me.
 
Cross-referencing that with the list, it's alleged to be "dox" / "dox" / a specific pedo respectively. Do you have some context for those for those who aren't familiar with non-Bardfinn janny drama?


I guess I don't really get your argument here. You annoyed Poast users until you got banned, then you made an account elsewhere, which is still banned from Poast. You should still be able to interact with Poast objects, but nobody on Poast can interact with yours. I don't think people accumulating on a single instance is healthy because it provides an opportunity for censorship, but graf has been frequently reposting a long note essentially saying to please make your own instance.


They do have this in the rules though:


I don't think the rule is really productive, but it seems clear enough to me.
None of these grifters are anonymous, randbot has streamed with his facecam yet you will get banned if you post clips from those streams or screenshots.
 
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So is the no doxing rule what determines between federation and defederation? Is that the over-arching rule about this? I'm just trying to understand how much of this is a "not in my backyard" policy and/or if there's some mutual agreement between multiple instances. Is kf.cc the outlier in all of this or rather, how do other instances/admins view it? Problematic?
 
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They do have this in the rules though:
Graf has posted a dox bounty for $100,000 shekels on poast, and allows doxing if it's people they don't like. She also changed her rules recently to hide the fact that they allow drawn child p*rn. Ask her yourself about how her rules used to state that you can post cp if you "don't mention their ages".
 
Graf has posted a dox bounty for $100,000 shekels on poast, and allows doxing if it's people they don't like. She also changed her rules recently to hide the fact that they allow drawn child p*rn. Ask her yourself about how her rules used to state that you can post cp if you "don't mention their ages".
I'm confused now, "she?" Graf or Gräfin? Doxed as a dude. What am I missing?
 
Graf has posted a dox bounty for $100,000 shekels on poast, and allows doxing if it's people they don't like. She also changed her rules recently to hide the fact that they allow drawn child p*rn. Ask her yourself about how her rules used to state that you can post cp if you "don't mention their ages".
Are you some kind of retard or... what's your deal?
 
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Question to anyone with any broader knowledge: how well intertwined are these different instances? I don't mean in terms of federation but rather in the sense of how many of them are bedfellows with one another?
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There are a few different corners of the fediverse. Like @cutest said it basically breaks down between the OG Mastodon vs Pleroma sides. The mastodon side is the oldest side and thats where the tranny/leftwing and freetard tech instances are. The Pleroma side is newer and is mostly the shitpostings/anime/porn/freedom side.
Things don't naturally flow between the 2 sides, but you can still manually follow someone and pull their posts across the iron curtain.
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You can see the Mastodon vs Pleroma split here. 2 different accounts 1 on each side of the split.
On the Mastodon side I can see jim because I manually followed him (I had to type in his full address, he doesn't come up in the search) but I can't see any of the other reply's except for the 1 guy who is on my side of the wall. On the Poa.st side I can see the 32 Plenoma side reply's but not the 1 guy who is on the mastodon side. But Jim can see him because the reply automatically @'ed him.
 
His current strategy is to have a bunch of services host the farms and see which ones survive the onslaught of tranny complaints
It seems he's already found the right ones. It took the Daily Stormer 6 months from Aug. 2017 - Feb. 2018 just to find a fucking host + CDN provider. And the same CDN provider refused to host 8kun and the other refused to host KF. BitMitigate is now owned by Rob Monster of Epik. He was the same faggot that ruined Gab. And Voxility keeps them up. Nick Lim - former owner of BitMitigate, now owns VanwaTech. Jim Watkins later became owner of the servers and he is a senile boomer who promised to buy KF so he got laughed at. So as of now he's using open source tools to fend them off along with a new captcha for every login after hCaptcha left and so far they're far more affective than vanwashit. The Tor website and the .st domain can finally stay online for more than 5 minutes despite the seething trannies who want this website gone.
 
Yeah. The site keeps going down, and during it, Null got into an exchange with a user that confirmed he wasn't talking about me.

I apologize for jumping to gay retard conclusions.
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That's not a random Kiwi user. That's the former Poast admin who convinced Graf to allow loli, a decision Graf says he regrets and is considering changing. It was the source of a disagreement with Josh a year ago, when Crunklord420 mediated between the two instances to clear things up.

And before some of you retards swoop in on your high horses about how obviously a bad decision it was, remember that this is the same arc Josh himself followed from 8chan and 9chan. "All anime is degenerate" wasn't his original determination either, he had to lose two websites to lolicon faggots to learn the hard lesson. Graf is still on his first and learning fast. You can't have an "anime instance" but ban loli without hiring a dozen jannies whose sole job is to argue the distinction with assholes, and even when you allow it you still have to argue with a different group of assholes, i.e. you guys.

I've lurked on Poast for a year now, there's almost no loli on the home timeline at all. There's a handful of posters and once you mute them, it's gone. The fediverse kind of naturally shuffled the real spammers off to their own identfiable instances. You have to mute a lot more people if you venture onto the whole fediverse timeline.

(Maybe you're getting loli in DMs from people you piss off, but that's no different from the time-honored tradition of sending goatse and Lemon Party in whispers on other sites. The messages functionality on here has been a constant source of mod headaches and bans too.)

And you aren't saying anything new. A few people from kiwifarms.cc group constantly brought this argument up with anyone stupid enough to respond to them, over and over, in every thread even when off topic, for months before the Keffals DDOS. Threads about everything from coffee to pics of cute birds were derailed by The Loli Question. KF.cc had multiple users defederated for being shit-flinging morons, and you're copying them all over again.

It's been argued to death a thousand times, and you aren't adding any insight. You're jumping into the end of a conversation trying to shove your bullet points in everyone's face, then wondering why the previous participants call you retarded.

So if you all would kindly stop acting like white niggers and literally lurk moar, like we tell the newfags here on KF itself, that would be greatly appreciated.
 
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