US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Gehenna]

Care to explain the raids on trump supporters?

See below:

If there is a TDS faction in the FBI, who genuinely believes he has done something that they can find, why would they wait to get smoked out - if they can just find the evidence then they'll be safe and vindicated for all their actions. Better to go down fighting, and they already crossed the Rubicon against trump, its much easier to repeat against prominent supporters.

This more or less covers it. No way they wanted to go right into going after Trump supporters so soon after the raid on Trump and before they gained anything from it. It's too premature and reeks of desperate acceleration of a plan.

I'm going to have to see a lot more evidence than one anonymous source making what could be reasonably construed as an exasperated complaint to have me somehow believe that the FBI are their own entity interested in more than serving as lapdogs of the establishment that they are embedded in, and are capable of the kind of autonomy it would take to "clean house"... whatever that means.

I'll believe it when I see signs that the alphabet boys are cracking down on the 'fa.

I should note since it can be blurred sometimes. The "FBI cleaning house" theory is a pet theory of mine. Right now I'd say it's where my intuition is pointing more than something I could back up with hard evidence beyond things leaking and coming out which generally aligns with the pet theory. That being said I can definitively say the intelligence agencies are part of their own autonomous group and are not the lapdogs of the establishment. To explain:

The intelligence agencies are high on their own power and want to ever expand it. The Establishment promised them basically no oversight, bills that keep them amply funded, and absolute impunity to do as they please. So, the intelligence agencies took that deal. All they have to do is devote comparatively minute amounts of its resources to what the Establishment wants and they in return get that sweetheart deal. The intelligence agencies and the Establishment are separate but highly interlinked factions that mutually benefit each other. Neither is subservient to the other, though the nature of their agreement also means either can really exist in their current form without the other.

 

[9Style]

https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1570793517915738114

Biden White House just put out a framework on regulating crypto — here’s what’s in it

The framework outlines ways in which the financial services industry should evolve to make borderless transactions easier, as well as how to crack down on fraud.

www.cnbc.com

Biden is going after crypto with all of the authortarians in there saying you wouldn't need crypto if the american banking system was all digital. Also don't forget green energy.....just don't tell them that over 50% of mining is done via solar.

There are several commentators online that hate crypto. Why? Because it gives a financial platform to the "far right".

If the Fed created a crypto I expect them to accept their media programming and immediately disavow their stance.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

the US Right is complacent because shit hasn't hit the fan.

It's because 80% of them are Rinos who serve the uniparty.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

It doesn't matter if there's proof or not. Hirono has the magical D next to her name and toes the party line, which, as we all know, is a Get Out of Jail Free card for all matter of scandals.

I want proof because if that vapid thing can hold power even with that kind of history, it is solid proof that the Dem rigging machine has blackmail of the highest caliber on Hawaiian officials.

 

[Meat Target]

I want proof because if that vapid thing can hold power even with that kind of history, it is solid proof that the Dem rigging machine has blackmail of the highest caliber on Hawaiian officials.

Not necessary. Dems do not allow themselves to be encumbered by quaint, plebian concepts like ethics or the law.

I've said it before: conservatives aren't necessarily cucks. They just have consciences. Liberals, who are apex Machiavellians, know this, and use it to their advantage.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

Not necessary. Dems do not allow themselves to be encumbered by quaint, plebian concepts like ethics or the law.

I've said it before: conservatives aren't necessarily cucks. They just have consciences. Liberals, who are apex Machiavellians, know this, and use it to their advantage.

Give me my puzzle pieces. I want details, dammit. lol

If there’s evidence of hardcore blackmail running through Hawaii it might be what’s needed to make the state vote red for a brief time again.

 

[SBG]

Love how much seething there is over this case by assholes that feel corporations have an honored right to censor people.

Every argument by them is based on the notion that corporations get to decide what goes on in the public square on these utilities, and they're so often dripping with disgust over a court going "no?".

 

[pwnest injun]

You forget that it’s legal when THEY do it

To be fair, there are things that are legal for the federal government to do that aren't legal for a state government to do. Particularly when it comes to interstate actions.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Tucker covering the aftermath to DeSantis's stunt.

And Newsom being butthurt.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

I've heard that Hawaii has a real problem with homeless and people living out of vehicles because the weather is nice enough all year there's not much to discourage it. Given how shitty native Hawaniians can be, I'm not sure it bothers me that much. Evil whitey brought in an all you can bang buffet of white and asian beach goers on top of running water and indoor plumbing, that must be so fucking terrible.

Off topic:

it warms the cockles of my cold sterile heart to see my fellow politispergs trickling back in. Even HH made his way back to lay down the smack.

On topic:

Homelessness in Hawaii is out of control. I was there only a few months before the lock downs and I saw whole cities if people living out of shipping containers the guberment had lay out to keep them out of the way of the Chink tourists. Stacked 3 layers high...it was like a smelly, drunken, drug fueled zoo.

 

[derpherp2]

It's hilarious you guys still believe the claims of a career conman over the actual election officials, judges and lawyers in the court cases.

So was TOR really that hard for you to comprehend or something?

Also bit funny coming from the guy sucking corpo cock immediately before corpos decided to fuck over the website you posted at. Good job.

 

[namvata]

Was there any more news on the FBI raids on Trump's supporters, tried watching Dim Fool's podcast that mentioned it but had to stop when NPC Dave Smith started ranting about Trump nearly starting a war by droning the Austere Scholar

I think it's fair to criticize the guy who made John Bolton the national security advisor, compromised WAY too hard on gun control, drone striked syria twice over phony unproven claims of chemical weapons attacks made by ISIS collaborators, helped Saudi Arabia perpetuate a humanitarian disaster in Yemen, got the fed to start printing money like it's going out of style, and kept fauci on all throughout 2020 (especially from a libertarian perspective).

never mentioned anything about being undermined by his military not telling the true troop numbers in Syria and that Biden was actually the one who deserved credit for ending Afghanistan.

The deep state's hatred of Trump and the deep state in general is something he talks about on his show constantly. Tbh I didn't even watch the timcast episode because I can't fucking stand Tim's sensationalism, overdramatic cadence, and midwittery. The only guy in his crew I actually like is Luke Rudkowski, he seems like a genuine dude and he's been around for a long time. Dave's appearance on Joe Rogan was way better imo

 

[LurkTrawl]

The intelligence agencies are high on their own power and want to ever expand it. The Establishment promised them basically no oversight, bills that keep them amply funded, and absolute impunity to do as they please. So, the intelligence agencies took that deal. All they have to do is devote comparatively minute amounts of its resources to what the Establishment wants and they in return get that sweetheart deal. The intelligence agencies and the Establishment are separate but highly interlinked factions that mutually benefit each other. Neither is subservient to the other, though the nature of their agreement also means either can really exist in their current form without the other.

First, I reiterate what I said: I need actual evidence to the contrary at this point. Not conjecture and opinion. Not that I thought this explanation ever really made that much sense, but in the face of what's been happening the past few months it takes more leaps in logic to believe that they're not lapdogs than it does to believe your assertion as to how things are currently operating.

The feds having some measure of power, sure, I can get that, but ultimately their power is downstream from that of the politicians they're working for, and unless you're going to tell me with a straight face that the FBI/CIA/etc would straight-up kill or extort a politician who is part of the current power structure of the U.S. and somehow get away with it.

Second, I cannot believe that a part of the entrenched establishment that very importantly is completely unelected ever under any circumstance barring a military junta or similar extreme scenarios would ever serve in any capacity to undermine their own power in such a way. You even admit here, that they are high on power and want to expand it. Going against those who not only would but are serving them to that end makes no sense. Undermining them or their authority in any way would work against that.

Now, am I willing to believe there's people who aren't complete tools working there? Sure. None of them have power, again by your own admission in earlier statements on this topic that they would be people who are rank-and-file. And that tweet can be read, and I did read it on first scan, not as someone trying to dogwhistle about how there's no racists but someone who is disappointed that they're not finding more, as in "I know they're out there but we just can't find them".

 

[Failed Lurker]

I think it's fair to criticize the guy who made John Bolton the national security advisor, compromised WAY too hard on gun control, drone striked syria twice over phony unproven claims of chemical weapons attacks made by ISIS collaborators, helped Saudi Arabia perpetuate a humanitarian disaster in Yemen, got the fed to start printing money like it's going out of style, and kept fauci on all throughout 2020 (especially from a libertarian perspective).

The deep state's hatred of Trump and the deep state in general is something he talks about on his show constantly. Tbh I didn't even watch the timcast episode because I can't fucking stand Tim's sensationalism, overdramatic cadence, and midwittery. The only guy in his crew I actually like is Luke Rudkowski, he seems like a genuine dude and he's been around for a long time. Dave's appearance on Joe Rogan was way better imo

Criticism is one thing, no issues with genuine criticism but when the talking points being used are just rehashing the same attack points that have already been widely evidenced to be bullshit in mainstream media of all places even if it takes a year and half after the story first broke, then shitlib is still a shitlib

 

[namvata]

rehashing the same attack points that have already been widely evidenced to be bullshit in mainstream media of all places even if it takes a year and half after the story first broke

So none of the grievances I just listed are real because MSNBC and Con Inc. said so?

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Off topic:

it warms the cockles of my cold sterile heart to see my fellow politispergs trickling back in. Even HH made his way back to lay down the smack.

I'm glad to see people coming back too, even HHH, it just wouldn't be the same without him and his utterly predictable bait.

On topic:

Homelessness in Hawaii is out of control. I was there only a few months before the lock downs and I saw whole cities if people living out of shipping containers the guberment had lay out to keep them out of the way of the Chink tourists. Stacked 3 layers high...it was like a smelly, drunken, drug fueled zoo.

That's one way to deal with it. It's shitty, but I guess we don't want unpleasant chinamen to have to deal with the homeless.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

Welcome back.... wonder if Biden had nordstream taken out?

Q+A What is known so far about the Nord Stream gas pipeline leaks

Unexplained gas leaks detected in the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines from Russia to Germany have prompted investigations by European countries into the cause, including possible sabotage.

neuters.de

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Welcome back.... wonder if Biden had nordstream taken out?

Q+A What is known so far about the Nord Stream gas pipeline leaks

Unexplained gas leaks detected in the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines from Russia to Germany have prompted investigations by European countries into the cause, including possible sabotage.

neuters.de

Starting to look like it, especially considering that the US Navy was just there at the time of the sabotage.

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1574758898086694912

 

[tehpope]

Here's the tweet and clip making the rounds from Feb.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1490792461979078662

 

[ForTheHoard]

Starting to look like it, especially considering that the US Navy was just there at the time of the sabotage.
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https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1574758898086694912

I deployed on the Kearsarge once a long time ago. The ships and the MEU attached to that strike group are enough to take over most small countries. That being said, they don't traditionally deploy like you might think. MEU are constantly deploying even during peacetime and just float around the world waiting for something to pop off. There's at least 1 sub and 1 destroyer attached, and the carrier would have helicopters, VSTOL jets, V-22's, armored amphibious vehicles, and about an entire regiment of Marine infantry.