Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

Now that the site is relatively stable again I can finally post the artists rendition of the Catcalling-incident for posterity:
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God, Olly is just a fucking recitation of TRA cliches and lies. "Think I'm not a woman? Well I get catcalled, how about that, TERFS?"

Let me guess, were the cat-callers construction workers in white singlets and yellow hardhats, lunch-pails in hand? Why don't you tell us about how hard opening jars is now? Or how some old lady said you reminded them of Old Hollywood glamour with your sexy contralto?
He never said cat-called. He said some men "shouted at him". Which, to be fair, I can believe.

"WHICH WAY IS THE STAG DO MATE? WAHEYYY!!"
 
Oh my god it’s pathetic, the way he desperately chases anyone and everyone on Twitter for clout.
It's absolutely hilarious how desperate Olly is to be The Trans Princess of TERF Island that he has to go out and try to chase for clout, while most people ignore him.

Has anyone kept up with his little play?
 
Has anyone kept up with his little play?
No, but I did a little search right now, and there doesn't seem to be that much buzz around it. The most significant seems to be that The Guardian and The Telegraph posted a review of it. The latter being behind a paywall, but both giving it a 3/5. The Guardian review seems like a bunch of inane praise while ending up giving it 3/5, which makes me think it's above all boring and uninteresting.

I also came across this short video that the theatre posted:
Note that they use a quote from the Telegraph review on their poster without showing the score they got.
 
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No, but I did a little search right now, and there doesn't seem to be that much buzz around it. The most significant seems to be that The Guardian and The Telegraph posted a review of it. The latter being behind a paywall, but both giving it a 3/5. The Guardian review seems like a bunch of inane praise while ending up giving it 3/5, which makes me think it's above all boring and uninteresting.

I also came across this short video that the theatre posted:
Note that they use a quote from the Telegraph review on their poster without showing the score they go

All the reviews basically try to be nice but can’t help but wallop it

Of course, engage seeth…
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(Amusingly, he has now deleted some of his more egregious tweets, like these -
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How dare reviewers not suck the tube entirely. How dare anyone suggest every facet is not note perfect.

In other news Tube has been-

Creeping on his audience and hoping for better things
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Seething at his audience
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(fairly, but it’s bad form and pretty pathetic to call it out like that- it’s clear from his “reviews” that loads of these tards have never been to the theatre before, a simple sign and word from ushers is all commonly that’s needed)

Begging people to come (discount! No guest list sorry babes bit thin on the ground despite being UTTERLY SOLD OUT! Every night apart from 25!
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Crying about muh security, and probably going particularly hard on the “stalker” thing cos he’s seen how much traction it’s gotten Keffals - verified in record time!-lately. Stil no tick for tube, who has been seething about that too
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Link for that article


Bonus
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TUBE FUCK!

Yeah, tube has been going pretty hog wild in what thought was the kiwi free world, also revealing that he reads the thread, lmao, and musing over wether to go through all the things we get wrong.

Tube, we only post what you post. The entirety of our “theory” is that you are an embarrassing coomer and friendless narcissist.
 
No, but I did a little search right now, and there doesn't seem to be that much buzz around it. The most significant seems to be that The Guardian and The Telegraph posted a review of it. The latter being behind a paywall, but both giving it a 3/5. The Guardian review seems like a bunch of inane praise while ending up giving it 3/5, which makes me think it's above all boring and uninteresting.

I also came across this short video that the theatre posted:
Note that they use a quote from the Telegraph review on their poster without showing the score they got.
Yeah, I've had a look and beyond those 2 reviews which reek of trying to big up something mediocre for woke points, the biggest review in the bag is from What's On Stage, 4 stars, but written by a young she/her so that's no surprise. What I do love though, is that even though she praises Olly's writing, she picks out multiple other cast members to specifically fawn over their acting choices, but Olly doesn't get a mention on that front. lol

The few smattering of other reviews are all from low level online review sites which give it 3 stars and clearly hold back on their criticisms; including one on Reviews Hub which has this gem:

"Sadly the play’s central premise of performing Shakespeare roles (Thorn herself acts as a closeted trans woman locked into embodying the hyper-masculine Hotspur) as a metaphor for being trapped in gender identities dictated by society is fairly facile, the performative nature of life now such a well-established idea as to need more complex treatment. ‘Are you coming?’ Jen asks Hotspur when standing at the portal back to our universe. ‘Where?’ ‘Out!’. It is none too subtle. Thorn’s slightly over-mannered performances as Hotspur and Hamlet are designed to show her character’s discomfort in her prescribed sexual identities, but the script does not really give her adequate opportunity to explore with depth her growing realisation that she is a trans woman." source

Dear reviewer, you're thinking too hard! He's just an over-mannered narc who doesn't have any depth to his concept of his own 'transness'. There isn't anything more to it. Unless he decides to paste something new on top to give is a fresh shine once attention wears off (more surgery? Depression arc?)

Also in that promo vid, cackling that despite being in a play full of troons Olly is the most massive unit with his big fridge torso and giant jaw (although blonde troon's jaw is some competition). Why does he look so shiny the whole time when no one else does?
 
No, but I did a little search right now, and there doesn't seem to be that much buzz around it. The most significant seems to be that The Guardian and The Telegraph posted a review of it. The latter being behind a paywall, but both giving it a 3/5. The Guardian review seems like a bunch of inane praise while ending up giving it 3/5, which makes me think it's above all boring and uninteresting.
Read both reviews a few days ago and came here to see what people were saying about his play, only to discover the site was down until today (?).

The fact that the Guardian gave it a middling score suggests it must be pretty bland, even by the standards of the sort of people who believe any cultural product is automatically fascinating if it's about being trans - Guardian readers who go to fringe theatre productions in London are going to be Ollie's most sympathetic audience, so if they're lukewarm about it...

Regarding the little video blurb, I find the comparison to The Matrix funny, because the actual inspiration for his play's structural conceit clearly lies in mid-century post-modernist theatre (Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead; Waiting for Godot; Marat/Sade, etc). All seems a bit tired and corny these days. I guess The Matrix seems a cooler and more up-to-date point of comparison. Plus it's been retroactively established as a TRA parable, no?

Really hoping someone in this thread is willing to go and see it and report back. Asking a lot, I know.
 
Crying about muh security, and probably going particularly hard on the “stalker” thing cos he’s seen how much traction it’s gotten Keffals - verified in record time!-lately. Stil no tick for tube, who has been seething about that too
By jove, you've got it. I was wondering where this 'stalker' had come from.


Am I the only one reading snark in The Guardian review?

in this ambitious not as good as it wishes if slightly feverish disorganized exploration

This is when the fun really starts It was really boring before this

With a majority trans cast, glee oozes from Thorn’s playful juggling of Shakespearean language around identity and performance. But the concept at times lacks clarity. A sidestep into the world of Hamlet builds on the deliberate feeling of chaos but also adds frustrating confusion about the mechanics of the world-building.
= The story is poorly put together and not easy to understand, but Ollie clearly loves his writing

Nevertheless, it’s a romp silly and childish.

The Prince is best seen as a theatrical video-essay. It's PhilosophyTube for the theatre.
Ouch.

There's only one(?) actual compliment given to Thorn. Ollie uses 'intelligent wit'. Else it's, 'playfully questions', 'playful juggling', and 'glee oozes'. Ollie's character is 'played with smouldering dignity' (looks hot, not completely embarrassing), but Mary Malone's is 'played radiantly'.

so if they're lukewarm about it...
Ollie doing what Ollie does best, boring the pants off people.

Really hoping someone in this thread is willing to go and see it and report back. Asking a lot, I know.
Did someone mention an online version, or did I come up with that in recent a nightmare?
 
"Are you coming?"

"Where?"

"Out!"

Ugh, the mental picture of Olly typing out that exchange in Word, smiling smugly as he hit save, before pulling out his phone to post on his (unverified lol) Twitter that he may have just written the best trans allegory ever... It's just given me the worst case of douche chills *shivers*
 
Am I the only one reading snark in The Guardian review?
Perhaps the expression of the reviewer's internal conflict between wanting to kowtow be a good ally to TRAs and her unwillingness to praise what is objectively shit?

Had a look through her (Kate Wyver's) previous articles and, yeah... if anyone was going to give Ollie a four-plus-star review, it was her.

This is the sort of thing she likes:

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We know Ollie's dead against transphobia within the lesbian community for purely selfless reasons.
 
By jove, you've got it. I was wondering where this 'stalker' had come from.


Am I the only one reading snark in The Guardian review?






= The story is poorly put together and not easy to understand, but Ollie clearly loves his writing




Ouch.

There's only one(?) actual compliment given to Thorn. Ollie uses 'intelligent wit'. Else it's, 'playfully questions', 'playful juggling', and 'glee oozes'. Ollie's character is 'played with smouldering dignity' (looks hot, not completely embarrassing), but Mary Malone's is 'played radiantly'.


Ollie doing what Ollie does best, boring the pants off people.


Did someone mention an online version, or did I come up with that in recent a nightmare?
The Gruan review was also the one which used the phrase “wacky new play” if I’m not mistaken..
 
I'm not familiar with All That Dazzles but at least they are capable of recognizing Olly's brilliance bestowing upon him 4 stars.

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“The dialogue is brought bang up to date thanks to our two travellers who are very much in modern times, replying to Shakespearean dialogue with words like “Babe” and “Mood” “​

I'm so happy “babes” made it into the script. It's a shame he's not popular enough for the ebook/pdf to be leaked, but without the cringe acting it probably wouldn't even make the“it's so bad it's good” threshold.

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Pink News also has a fluff piece but not a review – their journalists are actually really good if your standard is putting a bunch of words together that don't really say anything. I'm starting to think that actual writers are becoming obsolete and the new gig will be fine tuning OpenAI parameters to spit out a dozen pieces in a half hour.

Can't wait til it's released on Nebula so we can get the really brutally honest reviews - which will be responded to with something like "you miss so much not seeing it live that the bad opinions don't count!"
 
Off topic, but I'm obsessed with this website.

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This is the font on the about me page, trying to read through gave me a brain aneurism.

"Positive vibes only."
"We'll show you ways to keep your stagey fix going."

Lol.

Designed with the Wix.com website builder. Not even on the premium plan, lol.

....And yet, 10,000 followers on Twitter?!

I genuinely thought this website had been built by an overly eager college student because, well look at it.

Apparently, this middle-aged - never learned what to do with his hands - thespian thinks this is what makes a professional review site.

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Can someone please tell me what's going on with his shirt please? Is it see-through? Why is it red at the bottom? Why does it accentuate his man boobs? Is it meant to do that?

His facebook is a lol if you want to see picture after picture of a man trying desperately to figure out what to do with this hands. (Actually, it says he went to uni in 2008, so maybe he's only mid-thirties and was blessed with old-man genetics?)

Anyway, back on - sort of - topic. This guy obviously chasing clout like a twelve year old chasing TikTok fame, but even he can't be bothered to mention the prince on his twitter page. Even Emojiland the musical got a look in.

If you ignore Ollie's pathological narcissism, I think his relentless perseverance is actually almost admirable. Most talentless wannabe actors give up when they reach adolescence. But Ollie just keeps on going in the face of complete indifference. God, even Ollie London gotta have more fans than him, which is saying something.

Can't wait til it's released on Nebula so we can get the really brutally honest reviews - which will be responded to with something like "you miss so much not seeing it live that the bad opinions don't count!"
Ah, I wasn't sure if I'd imagined it lol. Was there mention of a discord chat or something for when it got released? I'd love an invite though I can't promise I'll necessarily care enough on the actual day to join, depends on whether there's some paint drying around.
 
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