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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Also putin feared the army so spent decades purging anyone competent.
That's not a surprise. Standard practice in any dictatorship or wannabe-dictatorship. The military is where the most obvious threats to a dictator will emerge. It's also the norm in Russia, as far back as the Tsars, to periodically purge the officer corps of anyone too competent, for similar reasons.



Meanwhile:


Ukraine war: Questions over France's weapons supply to Kyiv​

If France wants to lead Europe to a new era of military self-reliance, how come its contribution to the war effort in Ukraine is so small?

That is the awkward question being posed by some of the country's top strategic thinkers, who are pushing President Emmanuel Macron to make an urgent decision on more arms to Kyiv.

Recent analysis conducted on the ground in Poland and Ukraine shows that the French share of foreign arms deliveries is less than 2%, way behind the US on 49%, but also behind Poland (22%) and Germany (9%).

"I was concerned about the reliability of the statistics which showed France low on the list of contributing countries," says François Heisbourg, who is perhaps France's most influential defence analyst.

"So I went out to the main distribution hub in Poland to see how much in tonnage was actually being delivered, rather than just promised.

"Unfortunately the figures bore out my fears. France is way down the list - in ninth position."

The official reaction to this in Paris is: "Yes, but..."

Yes, the aid statistics are unflattering, but there are other factors at work.

First, defence officials say the true measure of military help is quality not quantity. Some countries are delivering masses of outdated equipment. France has given 18 Caesar self-propelled artillery units, which are now celebrated along the Ukrainian front-line.

France, they add, is like other Western countries in having run down military stocks as part of the post-Cold War peace dividend.

Ukraine's Caesars are fully one quarter of France's entire mobile artillery. It cannot offer much more without making itself vulnerable in regions where it is already committed, like the Sahel and the Indo-Pacific.

"It might look like we are behind other countries, but France has every intention of playing its part," says Gen Jérome Pellistrandi, editor of the National Defence Review.

These arguments are not without merit, says Mr Heisbourg. The problem is that by not being more present in theatre, France risks writing itself out of the plot.

"When I was in Kyiv, everyone was very polite. I had no sense that the Ukrainians disapproved of us," he says. "In a way it was worse. I had the distinct feeling we were becoming irrelevant."

For Mr Heisbourg the equation is simple. Ukraine will talk to countries who it knows are likely to deliver the weapons it needs. France at the moment is not one of them.

But there is another danger for France. Its relative absence in Ukraine undermines its bid for leadership in the cause of European defence.

Already many countries of eastern Europe are wary of President Macron, who they believe was far too indulgent towards Russia's Vladimir Putin in the first months of the war. A narrative has taken root according to which France still feels ambivalent about an outright Ukrainian triumph.

For Pierre Haroche, who lectures on international security at Queen Mary University of London, this narrative is unfair - and is not the reason for France's low levels of arms deliveries to Ukraine.

However, he is firmly of the view that France should beef up its contribution as early as possible, in order to reassure eastern European countries like Poland that "we are all on the same page".

"France's goal of strategic autonomy for Europe is focused primarily on building up our defence industries via joint procurement. But if you want joint procurement, you have to demonstrate to other countries that you have the same vision about our common security," he says.

"In order to make our objective of European co-operation viable, we need to show eastern European countries that co-operating with France and buying the idea of strategic autonomy is not a strategic risk."

Dr Haroche is calling for France to send 50 Leclerc main battle tanks. Mr Heisbourg would prefer air defence systems, which he says Ukraine is more in need of.

"It is like a fire extinguisher," says Dr Haroche. "If there is a fire in a neighbour's house it is better to offer your extinguisher straightaway, and not wait till the fire reaches your own home.

"It's not just generosity. It's also for your own protection."

It is an interesting debate. France has one of the most independent militaries in Europe; The French have been at the forefront of promoting a European unified military (jokes about the Single European Tank go here), but they've never really been cooperative with the practicalities of the idea. They famously abandoned NATO in the late 60s, for a variety of reasons, including territorial integrity (and not coincidentally the shadow that NATO membership threw over their ongoing control of their colonies), and only rejoined in 2009 - doing so primarily because to promote the creation of the European Rapid Reaction force, which would consist almost entirely of NATO members, without France also being a NATO member, would have been both hypocritical and impractical.

Simply put, France wants to eat its cake and have it as well. It wants to remain militarily independent, whilst also benefiting from NATO membership. It wants the single european army, but wants no part of it. It wants to virtue signal about Ukraine, but doesn't want to actually participate in sending arms.

There's eminent logic in the position that French resources should be used to defend France first, but Macron is neither willing to articulate that, nor to commit wholeheartedly to one position or the other.
 
Before the war, France also wanted to ramp up their military influence, particularly in the Pacific. So helping Ukraine by sending them weapons and vehicles should be a no-brainer for a decent marketing, since this war has now also become a huge showcase for western military industries, especially since now countries will race to change their Soviet/Russian armaments with the Western ones. The fact that they're not doing anything is weird, to say the least
 
And FYI, since I do just want to say this, that Dave Smith guy was on Rogan very recently and while he missed a few things about this whole situation it was a decent interview with someone who kind of knows the history on this shit going back to the formation of NATO. If it hasn't already it's going to shoot a decent-sized hole in support for Ukraine in the american public.
Since I mentioned it, I figured I'd put it here now that a clip of it has gone up.
Almost 3 million views now.
 
Poland won't do anything because Poland is cuck central

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Poland has sheltered over 1 mil refugees and has provided almost their entire useful stock of updated and maintained T-72s, artillery and other systems. Poland's aid particularly triggers poo tin if his propagandists are any guide. It has now a large and effective NATO standard military. Poland's strength and Russian weakness is the present reality and something to savour given what Russia did to Poland. Perhaps as a nod to history, Russia could end up having Polish peacekeepers when the Ivans start cutting each up. Almost of Russia's neighbors are working to fuck it over now, thanks to the bald manlet and the shit he tried. Azerbaijan sells gas via Bulgaria or will soon. Kazakhstan's Pres publicly insulted poo tin's FSB statelets and left the now worthless Russian security umbrella. Russia is basically now one of Xi's third world vassals, except PRC is doing little to help except buying massively discounted mineral resources.
 
So uh... Russia hasn't invaded Ukraine under dubious pretenses in an attempt to expand its empire? We're a bit beyond wringing our hands about consequences considering a nuclear power is currently attempting an active land-grab of a non-nuclear neighbor.
You guys still shilling for further escalation and a Polish Empire?
Amazing stuff
 
Poland has sheltered over 1 mil refugees and has provided almost their entire useful stock of updated and maintained T-72s, artillery and other systems. Poland's aid particularly triggers poo tin if his propagandists are any guide. It has now a large and effective NATO standard military. Poland's strength and Russian weakness is the present reality and something to savour given what Russia did to Poland. Perhaps as a nod to history, Russia could end up having Polish peacekeepers when the Ivans start cutting each up. Almost of Russia's neighbors are working to fuck it over now, thanks to the bald manlet and the shit he tried. Azerbaijan sells gas via Bulgaria or will soon. Kazakhstan's Pres publicly insulted poo tin's FSB statelets and left the now worthless Russian security umbrella. Russia is basically now one of Xi's third world vassals, except PRC is doing little to help except buying massively discounted mineral resources.
Yes Poland sheltered a lot of those poor hohols that were allowed to flee before Zelensky sent the poor ones into the meatgrinder, i see them here in austria too, driving bentleys and mercedes. I always wanted to ask one of these old degenerate old cat ladies on twitter if it gives them a hardon calling politician they don't like some weird pet names but i guess you answered that question. Poland is still a shithole country only known for in Europe for stealing cars and going to the UK to work.
 
We can't all focus on important stuff like anti-sodomy.
Yes, why is the EU bureaucracy focusing on degenerate "rights" and is trying to bully Poland, when Poland is such a great ally against the imperial Russian ambitions?
Why can't the western yuropids fuck butts and parade their axe wounds on the streets of Paris and Amsterdam, and leave us in East Europe the fuck alone?
 
Yes Poland sheltered a lot of those poor hohols that were allowed to flee before Zelensky sent the poor ones into the meatgrinder, i see them here in austria too, driving bentleys and mercedes. I always wanted to ask one of these old degenerate old cat ladies on twitter if it gives them a hardon calling politician they don't like some weird pet names but i guess you answered that question. Poland is still a shithole country only known for in Europe for stealing cars and going to the UK to work.
I get it that the zigger like you is weeping because your pedophile hero is slipping badly in a a mess of blood and shame. It made you happy that a pedo was once so powerful is now a figure of ridicule. Now poo tin will soon be raped in hell like one of his little boy victims. Get help.

The fall of Kherson should be good.

Gen Petraeus says the US would destroy Putin's troops if he uses nukes:

 
Poland has sheltered over 1 mil refugees and has provided almost their entire useful stock of updated and maintained T-72s, artillery and other systems. Poland's aid particularly triggers poo tin if his propagandists are any guide. It has now a large and effective NATO standard military. Poland's strength and Russian weakness is the present reality and something to savour given what Russia did to Poland. Perhaps as a nod to history, Russia could end up having Polish peacekeepers when the Ivans start cutting each up. Almost of Russia's neighbors are working to fuck it over now, thanks to the bald manlet and the shit he tried. Azerbaijan sells gas via Bulgaria or will soon. Kazakhstan's Pres publicly insulted poo tin's FSB statelets and left the now worthless Russian security umbrella. Russia is basically now one of Xi's third world vassals, except PRC is doing little to help except buying massively discounted mineral resources.
Well Poland has a quite competent army but they just started to rearm as all Euro nations. A Polish army offical stated in the beginning of the war that they are in a worser condition than the Ukrainian army.

Their shopping list seems quite impressive ngl. 180 K2 MBTs plus 250 Abrams adding to their already existing 140 Leos. They also plan to build 820 K2s with a loicence....kinda overblown with the additional plan to buy 500 HIMARS. I mean if they want to stock them up with just one MLRs they already need to invest 75.000.000 (one MLRS costs 150k bucks a 500 launchers yeeks). I'm really curious on how the Polish army turns out in the next 10 years. Giving the fact that Russia will be completly knocked out for the next 30 years they will probably drastically cut this ambitious plan.
 
I get it that the zigger like you is weeping because your pedophile hero is slipping badly in a a mess of blood and shame. It made you happy that a pedo was once so powerful is now a figure of ridicule. Now poo tin will soon be raped in hell like one of his little boy victims. Get help.

The fall of Kherson should be good.

Gen Petraeus says the US would destroy Putin's troops if he uses nukes:

Ah yes, the walls are closing in on Putin, i heard that for the last 5 months. Better send more money to the hohols to prolong a war they can't win.

The hypocritical virtue signaling is fun to observe tho. Russia could fight in Ukraine for another decade and it would not cause the devestation the US caused on this world in the last few decades but go off on muh putin. Maybe tell your government to stop funding regime changes in countries like Ukraine and there would be no war because Ukraine and Russia would be getting along like they did for decades prior to 2014.
 
Ah yes, the walls are closing in on Putin, i heard that for the last 5 months. Better send more money to the hohols to prolong a war they can't win.

The hypocritical virtue signaling is fun to observe tho. Russia could fight in Ukraine for another decade and it would not cause the devestation the US caused on this world in the last few decades but go off on muh putin. Maybe tell your government to stop funding regime changes in countries like Ukraine and there would be no war because Ukraine and Russia would be getting along like they did for decades prior to 2014.
Faden stink übel nach serbischen Gammelfleisch
 
You guys still shilling for further escalation and a Polish Empire?
Their are no non-escalating scenarios. About what we should dispute?

And, well- Friedman (i.e. The Next 100 Years: A Forecast for the 21st Century) is also sure that Poland, Turkey and Japan will use the fall of Russia. Turkey is on their road to rule on Caucasus, Japan is still silent, and Poland is the one in best position to do something funny in next months.
 
Ah yes, the walls are closing in on Putin, i heard that for the last 5 months. Better send more money to the hohols to prolong a war they can't win.

The hypocritical virtue signaling is fun to observe tho. Russia could fight in Ukraine for another decade and it would not cause the devestation the US caused on this world in the last few decades but go off on muh putin. Maybe tell your government to stop funding regime changes in countries like Ukraine and there would be no war because Ukraine and Russia would be getting along like they did for decades prior to 2014.
Russia could fight in Ukraine? Are you joking? Their army is collapsing. They've been forced to draft randos and prison bitches into their army. Their society as a whole is falling apart with many Z-retards who originally voiced support for the war picking up sticks and getting the fuck out. That is not a healthy society. That's like imagine America during the Vietnam War, but even worse. Way worse. Even if America peaced out at this point, Russia won't be able to retake shit. The most they'll be able to do is cause a bit of trouble on the border, but with how their army is now, they won't be able to make any serious gains.

At this point, we're just giving the Ukrainians enough to finish the job.
 
Russian faggots die to UAV while blowing each other.
I have returned from the abyss to laugh my fucking ass off at this shit right here



That the farms were being ram ranch'd for the last few weeks while the entire russian line just fucking collapsed and they pushed the "MASS CONSCRIPT FUCKING EVERYONE NOWNOWNOWNOWNOW!!!!" button and proceeded to turn that into an even *bigger* fucking trainwreck is something I shall eternally mourn, as I had to keep my manic cackling and gibbering about it to myself and away from polite conversation.....but the farms returns in strength just in time and for just long enough to have "russian conscripts suckin eachother's cawks and then get blowed up by a drone that was filming the whole thing" happen for all of us to enjoy as a family together.

I mean....fucking jesus christ how much more can russia possibly fucking humiliate itself?!
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Clearly this should have been posted in the happenings thread. Hilarious!
"Lol NATO globohomo cucks dont comprehend the obvious fact that this was simply another feint! Here is a 10 hour bitchute stream by Scott Ritter on the advantages of flex tape in restraining a terrified preschooler why highly trained and mechanised russian cumchugger conscripts are feared the world over for their skills on the battlefield and in the bath house...."
 
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