Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[draggs]

The only advantages they have is in manpower, intelligence and morale and as far as their victories go, they never managed to encircle or destroy a significant amount of Russian manpower.

Those same tactics didn't work when faced with a wall of artillery and significant Russian resistance back in the first days (maybe the deadliest days for the Ukrainian military) of the Kherson offensive.

The Russians have proven many times that they can deal a bloody nose to Ukrainian offensives when they have sufficient manpower and supplies in the area.



You're only making presumtions, Russia still has tons of equipment and those that are being sent are reservists, not armed civilians.

Morale is difficult to put in a metric and you have to go through 10 filters of propaganda to know what the hell is going on so tell me next year if your presumtions on morale are ultimately correct.

So the hohols went around by targeting Russian logistics and now the Russian artillery hasnt been able to stop them in Kherson anymore. And the vaunted Russian artillery has been totally incapable of neutralizing the hohol big guns and rockets, whether it be their handed down Soviet artillery or the new Western stuff

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

I'm so fucking amused when people say "Durr US lost in Iraq and Afghanistan"

the fucking sandniggers got plowed on day 1 on both and in both they hid behind civilians, tortured, beheaded and enslaved, only emerging like cockroaches when big daddy USA got tired of fucking both countries as they deserved it solely for existing. If you count this as victory of the people or a US defeat, then you are a fucking faggot who should be executed in a Republic of Gilead or rightfully raped to death by invading Chinese or castrated under Globohomo Belgian Caliphate

I like how a bunch of Vatniks have used it as a catcha in recent months, forgetting the Soviets lost to those same sandniggers even though they bordered them and wasn't on the opposite side of the globe.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

they never managed to encircle or destroy a significant amount of Russian manpower.

And that's why Russia's mobilization is just a 6D hologram on a 7th dimension chess board.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The only advantages they have is in manpower, intelligence and morale

Oh really? Well thank god for Russia that Ukraine has the advantage in ONLY these theaters...

 

[draggs]

The hohols only have an advantage in manpower, intelligence, and morale?

So only three of the five most important things in a war? Oh and they have the advantage in the fourth too, superior weapons. That "modernized" Soviet tech is getting assraped with no lube by the Western stuff. And the fifth, their logistics are way better than Russia's. Five for five

 

[potato fan]

more russian mobiks, unhappy about being left outside with no food

russian POW treated by Ukrainian medics, his wounds infested with maggots

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Don't feel bad. Vatniks felt bad for Ukre conscripts back in June when they were losing hundreds of men a day. Now, they're experienced soldiers that are plugging gaps on the front and are letting more experienced soldiers to participate in offensive actions. Those same experienced soldiers pass on knowledge to green hornets in their units and increases the effectiveness of offensive units and this same dinamic will also happen in the Russian army in a couple of months from now.

This war is just starting.

They’re literally mobilizing old men

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

This war is just starting.

It's not a war it's a special military operation

 

[JosephStalin]

more russian mobiks, unhappy about being left outside with no food

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russian POW treated by Ukrainian medics, his wounds infested with maggots


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The top video doesn't represent an army that's winning, or, frankly has any chance of winning conventionally. These men, who could have been home working and contributing to the Russian economy/war effort, are being wasted.

In the bottom video, the maggots are actually helping the wounded man, eating any infected flesh/pus. "Clean" maggots are, at times, used in "regular" medicine to treat certain wounds. Yet the look on this young man's face is that of someone who's been used up and discarded. This fellow may well, after treatment, volunteer to fight for Ukraine against Russia.

Putin will pay for this, one way or another. He apparently doesn't realize, understand, or care that he hasn't the manpower the old Red Army had available. Robbing Peter to pay Paul, all he is doing. Can't do that forever, or even for very long.

But this isn't solely a Putin-era thing. During my namesake's time, hundreds of thousands of Soviet troops fought with the Germans against their own country. Don't know of any other country where this happened, to such an extent.

 

[AgendaPoster]

more russian mobiks, unhappy about being left outside with no food

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russian POW treated by Ukrainian medics, his wounds infested with maggots


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Absolutely ZERO surprises here for anyone from the former Eastern Bloc.
This is how things work.
Machines and technology are precious. Men are not. Men are many, stupid and to be used as cannon fodder until the enemy gets bored and demoralized.
Life has no real value in these areas. It's one of the main reasons we in East Europe wanted to get the hell away from it as much as possible.
One can always criticize the West, which I very often do, but you cannot complain that the Western soldiers have no value and are thrown in suicide waves at enemies.
Instead, they get equipment, training, rest, and medical care.

 

[UVB-76]

What non-NATO countries did the Russians invade since the 11 day war in Georgia, of which there was no landgrab or annexation by Russia? What stopped Russia from invading non-NATO countries like Finland? Or other countries to the east when all they apparently want is expand? Oh right. They are not warmongers like the US.

Excuse me? Have you read a history book?

Im pretty sure neither you nor any other hohol defender knows the arsenal of the banderites during the 2014 coup or what ammo they used. I remember arguing with a retard on here who vehemently denied that anyone on the Uke side was using old outdated M16 rifles from the US and that the weapon smuggling video must have been a fake.

It was me.
I never said there were no outdated M16s. The argument presented was that M16s were being manufactured in Ukraine, and I looked it up and it was just ARs in 7.62x39. But a know-nothing journo typed "M16". How is it my fucking fault that people read articles written by journos who famously know nothing about guns and don't even look up the "sources" they're presenting?
Some Assadist cocksucker took some M16s and FN FALs to pretend he bought them from Ukraine. Even though those weapons are commonly found in Syria already. I've already demonstrated that sites like "Thief" fake weapons sales websites on the dark web as a psyop. Guess what - Russia is getting buttfucked by Western weapons so they have created stories and "evidence" of Ukraine selling weapons so that the West stops sending stuff.
That's why they lied about the French CAESAR sale. That's why they lied about the HIMARS sale.
Did the Russians also show off the bioweapons they found on the labs? Did they fish out the two French generals out of the Azovstal cum pit? No. It was all a fucking lie. You can literally go back and read the first thread - we discussed all the crazy conspiracy theories about the invasion and none of them were true.

Blaming the russians is consistent with usual Ameritard behaviour.
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It would be nice to hear about this evidence.

8 Years after the coup the Ukraine ranked the poorest country in europe despite being almost twice the size of germany. Even poorer than Moldova.

8 years of war tend to do that.

 

[DumbDude43]

In the bottom video, the maggots are actually helping the wounded man, eating any infected flesh/pus. "Clean" maggots are, at times, used in "regular" medicine to treat certain wounds.

his arm looks stiff and kind of dead from the elbow on down. can't tell for sure from this clip but it's possible that it is dead and they have to amputate it.

Machines and technology are precious. Men are not. Men are many, stupid and to be used as cannon fodder until the enemy gets bored and demoralized.

this approach was viable in the past
but in the age of sub replacement birth rates it basically means putin is genociding his own people
depopulate russia to own the hohols

 

[introvertedobserver]

It's not contextually wrong at all, if you try and take the West and its actions in a vacuum then you are correct - but we don't live in a vacuum, we exist in the international system, I am appreciating things within their actual context. The invasion of Ukraine is a direct assault on this system that has been in place for decades, and Putin has intimated as much himself.

Defending Ukraine through material support, is defending that system and thereby the nations in it, which includes all of NATO.

If and until NATO, the West or whoever takes things over and above where they are currently, or expands into different theatres, then the West is reacting with kind, or in this case with less, not escalating the situation. It has been Russia that has consistently escalated things.

Crying "escalation" because one side has increased measures in reaction to one side actually escalating, because they're losing, is someone who is basically arguing we should roll over. Great idea, worked with Crimea.

Your viewpoint would be valid if we had an alliance with Ukraine like we do with other NATO countries. We don't, and so your viewpoint is completely invalid.

Your viewpoint is that "if any country, anywhere, attacks any other country, than every uninvolved country can freely enter the conflict in some way and it's not an escalation". That's flat out bullshit and now how international politics work.

Those countries may justify their escalation into the conflict, and in many cases may be justified, but it's still an escalation.

Crying "escalation" because one side has increased measures in reaction to one side actually escalating, because they're losing, is someone who is basically arguing we should roll over. Great idea, worked with Crimea.

That's a fucking logical leap that requires a pole vault.

One can point out that it is, in fact, an escalation and also not be opposed to it. You're argument here is that "stating a fact is the same as having X opinion". No dude, that's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.

 

[JosephStalin]

his arm looks stiff and kind of dead from the elbow on down. can't tell for sure from this clip but it's possible that it is dead and they have to amputate it.


this approach was viable in the past
but in the age of sub replacement birth rates it basically means putin is genociding his own people
depopulate russia to own the hohols

Not sure re losing the arm, since the maggots were eating the bad flesh/pus/etc. He could well lose some function in the arm, though.

 

[make_it_so]

Your viewpoint would be valid if we had an alliance with Ukraine like we do with other NATO countries. We don't, and so your viewpoint is completely invalid.

Your viewpoint is that "if any country, anywhere, attacks any other country, than every uninvolved country can freely enter the conflict in some way and it's not an escalation". That's flat out bullshit and now how international politics work.

There was a point back in the Cold War, hell most of history, that we wisely recognized that intruding directly into another major power's sphere of influence was a very bad move.

But as I've pointed out elsewhere, the geniuses in charge think it's eternally 1999, and the unipolar world paradigm of that particular moment means you can ignore those old rules without any consequences.

 

[UVB-76]

Also, it doesn't matter if they get shot down, their purpose is to overwhelm AA defences and they're doing a good job at that.

Then Ukraine is smarter than Russia, because they went and bought Aliexpress drones.
Holy shit, imagine paying Iran the big bucks for loitering munitions while Ukraine probably just straps radar reflectors to the cheapest piece of garbage that can fly.
Also, Ukraine will get Western AA to replenish theirs. Does this plan sound like Russia is acomplishing something?

Now, they're experienced soldiers that are plugging gaps on the front and are letting more experienced soldiers to participate in offensive actions

The experienced soldiers are done. They've been fighting for 7 months with no rotation and taken massive casualties.
The initial invasion force took massive losses.
They plugged the gaps with instructors and troops from other bases. They took losses.
They gangpressed the Donbabweans and Lugandans. Those took pretty bad losses.
They called the reservists to form the BARS units, they called SOBR, etc. More losses.
There's a reason why 300k were mobilized. They ran out of fucking manpower. They're taking sailors and troops from the strategic rocket forces. They wouldn't be doing this if the "experienced soldiers" were just waiting on reinforcements.
And by the way, the experienced troops are trapped in fucking Kherson. They can't run away and can't be reinforced. Again, does this sound like a plan? They're gonna deliver the troops by helicopter? By parachute? Can't wait for the VEH DEH VEH meme to come back.

The Russians have proven many times that they can deal a bloody nose to Ukrainian offensives when they have sufficient manpower and supplies in the area.

Part of warfighting is creating advantages like "manpower" and "supplies".
Russia can beat Ukrainians when they have the advantage? Groundbreaking. You better write that down. Maybe publish a book. I'm thinking "the art of war" as a title but we can workshop that better down the line.

You're only making presumtions, Russia still has tons of equipment and those that are being sent are reservists, not armed civilians.

All men in Russia can be called reservists because there's a year of mandatory service. Unless a country has a system to mobilize such people (Russia doesn't, as evidenced by the mess they've done) and regularly give them refreshers, they are civilians. Conscription is known in Russia as a wasted year as they don't actually do useful training.

There was a point back in the Cold War, hell most of history, that we wisely recognized that intruding directly into another major power's sphere of influence was a very bad move.

The Cold War was a bunch of intrusions into spheres of influence.
I don't think they recognized that.

 

[mindlessobserver]

more russian mobiks, unhappy about being left outside with no food

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russian POW treated by Ukrainian medics, his wounds infested with maggots


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Honestly that Russian kid should be counting his blessings about there being maggots in that wound. They are eating all the necrotizing flesh. It's probably going to save his arm. Probably hurts and itches like a mother fucker though.

Also, it has to be pointed out. All the footage coming out showing the Russian Troops vs. The Ukrainian Troops. It really can't all be just a psyop at this point. The Russian Army looks like the very dregs of their society and when you see them right next to the Ukrainians the difference is really striking.

I am sure some of it is probably deliberate propaganda framing, but it can't be ALL of it...

 

[draggs]

There was a point back in the Cold War, hell most of history, that we wisely recognized that intruding directly into another major power's sphere of influence was a very bad move.

But as I've pointed out elsewhere, the geniuses in charge think it's eternally 1999, and the unipolar world paradigm of that particular moment means you can ignore those old rules without any consequences.

What point was this lol?

The Cold War, and all history before it, was one group encroaching on what another group felt was its rightful sphere of influence, from both sides

 

[make_it_so]

The Cold War was a bunch of intrusions into spheres of influence.
I don't think they recognized that.

When the two sides probed, they were smart enough to either leave it in the Third World, or use proxies rather than get directly involved.

U.S. didn't start funneling guns and money into Hungary and Czechoslovakia when those places flared up in 56 and 68.

 

[JosephStalin]

Got news for you, sports fans. One of the dumbest things you can do is send instructors into battle. The instructors are the ones who train people. Their knowledge can be passed on to hundreds, if not thousands of people. When you lose those instructors you are eating your seed corn. Personally, over three years of instruction I trained several hundred USAF officers and civilians. Your drill sergeants will train many, many more people in that time frame. Same with military academic instructors, of all types.