Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Prester John]

They're saying that Ukraine has the Russians on the run.

 

[Hell on Earth]

Reports of them being anyone are aplenty, and when we look at what reservists in Russia are it's anyone with any amount of service history. BARS, their actual reservists, are already deployed. Some of these "reservists" haven't touched a weapon in years, maybe over a decade, and skill fade would make them green as anything. Plus, the nature of their training first time around may have been minimalist - conscripts in Russia are hardly the cream of the crop.

As for equipment, you're kidding right? They are suggesting those called up bring tampons because they lack field dressings. You see Russians suggest they attach field tourniquets using cable ties to stop them being stolen (good luck getting them off when you need to put one on your blown off leg). Russia might keep large stocks of weapons and vehicles, but they sure as fuck do not maintain them sufficiently.

Is my take on moral a presumption? Ukraine has had that many volunteers that they have postponed their last round of calling up conscripts as they have enough men under arms. Reports early on showed a willingness for people to join and fight with TDFs even after they had taken heavy casualties. In Russia they struggled to recruit, after straining their professional forces to the limit, calling up actual reserves, conscripting old cripples in DPR and LPR, and attempting to recruit prisoners they had to call a mobilisation of "reservists" (which aren't actually reservists) which caused hundreds of thousands of Russians to flee the fucking country because they don't want to have their limbs shot off for a war they don't care about.

We can come back in a year, I'll still be right. Like I was right about Ukraine being better positioned to win this war in the Medium - Long Term and here we are in the medium term and Ukraine is beating Russia on almost every front with the exception of Bakmut where Russia continue to take entire meters of a ground for heavy losses.

More like in the forever term because this conflict escalates every week and the logical conclusion is that Russia will issue a general mobilization in many waves just like Ukraine did.

Also, Ukraine pretty much prohibited itself from negotiating with Russia until a new president takes Putin's place and that means that hundreds of thousands of soldiers (potentially millions) will directly clash near and inside Ukraine's borders indefinitely. I personally don't care who wins because by the end both countries will be absolutely spent and Europe will become even more irrelevant as European economies begin relying on America for energy.

You could say America has resolved the gordian knot that is Europe and Europe will become what Greece became in the Roman Empire, a relic from a time long past.

 

[Beak Thing]

Chinese history is a cycle of idiots ushering in a completely balls to the wall era of suffering and violence, but ironically also new thought and progress. The warlord era does break the "bad times = tech innovation" because there is so much needed for modern science.

Take for example:
Spring and Autumn
Warring States
Three Kingdoms
Sixteen Kingdoms
Northern and Southern Dynasties
Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms
Southern Song
Warlord era

Only in the bleakest of winters will one take mind of a beautiful bloom of orchids the following spring.

Exactly!

I always wondered why people thought the Chinese were mindless drones simply because of the CCP over the past 5-10 years...China's entire history is based upon people getting pissed off and upending the status quo. It's also chock full of pirates, brigands, unsuccessful rebels who kept starting shit, gamblers, explorers and inventors.

The Japanese were just so brutal and savage in the 30's the Chinese were handicapped pretty badly on top of the Warlord Era. They did a damn fine job during WWII, though.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

They're saying that Ukraine has the Russians on the run.

I think it's a very dangerous moment right now because I do not know if the West (US + NATO) will push for the complete collapse of Russia instead of just Ukraine regaining it's de jure territory.

You could say America has resolved the gordian knot that is Europe and Europe will become what Greece became in the Roman Empire, a relic from a time long past.

I fear the successor, an unstable, authoritarian EU. Would make for good laughs after they bring back castration and blinding though.

They did a damn fine job during WWII, though.

They did not. Belief is powerful, but it is not enough to substitute for technology.
Do you know how desperate the fighting was? My grandfathers all fought (alongside their
brothers).
Two were suicide bombers. One was eleven, wrapped himself in TNT and forced to run at tanks at gunpoint to blow himself up. The other was bayoneted in the 7-7 incident, and left in the retreat. He managed to walk himself back to Langfang.
A third died with his entire unit when they were blown up by planes over 100 miles from the front lines.

When my cousins grandfather went into Tibet in 1951 to build a road the attrition rate was 5-10 men per a km. They lost several men building bridges by hand who were buried alive in the pillars.

The China of today is fat, arrogant, lazy, and avaricious. It is not capable of that type of sacrifice. In fact, I don't think any remotely modern nation is capable of this.

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

More like in the forever term because this conflict escalates every week and the logical conclusion is that Russia will issue a general mobilization in many waves just like Ukraine did.

Also, Ukraine pretty much prohibited itself from negotiating with Russia until a new president takes Putin's place and that means that hundreds of thousands of soldiers (potentially millions) will directly clash near and inside Ukraine's borders indefinitely. I personally don't care who wins because by the end both countries will be absolutely spent and Europe will become even more irrelevant as European economies begin relying on America for energy.

I think either Putin's reign will be cut short, or negotiations will be brought up by Ukraine once they have achieved their war aims. That or it becomes a frozen North Korea style conflict at this point, I don't see that happening until Ukraine has liberated what it deems to be its borders and the frontlines seem to be becoming increasingly fluid not less so as Russian forces crumble.

You could say America has resolved the gordian knot that is Europe and Europe will become what Greece became in the Roman Empire, a relic from a time long past.

Germany is primarily at fault here, they got rid of their nuclear plants because of the environment and then replaced it with reliance on cheap Russian gas. Anyone with half a brain cell could see the potential problems from this coming a mile off.

The UK was better, but they failed to build their planned nuclear plants.

France is sitting pretty, or would be if there wasn't a common European energy market.

Point is, why would Europe become reliant on others again when they have an option that they turned their nose up at for retarded reasons a decade ago: nuclear.

The UK is opening more plants, starting to ramp up its SMR industry, Germany will see sense. Combined with green energy investment, the reliance on US gas is probably going to be short lived.

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

More like in the forever term because this conflict escalates every week and the logical conclusion is that Russia will issue a general mobilization in many waves just like Ukraine did.

Also, Ukraine pretty much prohibited itself from negotiating with Russia until a new president takes Putin's place and that means that hundreds of thousands of soldiers (potentially millions) will directly clash near and inside Ukraine's borders indefinitely. I personally don't care who wins because by the end both countries will be absolutely spent and Europe will become even more irrelevant as European economies begin relying on America for energy.

I think either Putin's reign will be cut short, or negotiations will be brought up by Ukraine once they have achieved their war aims. That or it becomes a frozen North Korea style conflict at this point, I don't see that happening until Ukraine has liberated what it deems to be its borders and the frontlines seem to be becoming increasingly fluid not less so as Russian forces crumble.

You could say America has resolved the gordian knot that is Europe and Europe will become what Greece became in the Roman Empire, a relic from a time long past.

Germany is primarily at fault here, they got rid of their nuclear plants because of the environment and then replaced it with reliance on cheap Russian gas. Anyone with half a brain cell could see the potential problems from this coming a mile off.

The UK was better, but they failed to build their planned nuclear plants.

France is sitting pretty, or would be if there wasn't a common European energy market.

Point is, why would Europe become reliant on others again when they have an option that they turned their nose up at for retarded reasons a decade ago: nuclear.

The UK is opening more plants, starting to ramp up its SMR industry, Germany will see sense. Combined with green energy investment, the reliance on US gas is probably going to be short lived.

 

[Hell on Earth]

I think either Putin's reign will be cut short, or negotiations will be brought up by Ukraine once they have achieved their war aims. That or it becomes a frozen North Korea style conflict at this point, I don't see that happening until Ukraine has liberated what it deems to be its borders and the frontlines seem to be becoming increasingly fluid not less so as Russian forces crumble.

Too optimistic, you won't find many wars that end well with maximalist aims on both sides. Especially when it's literally illegal to negotiate with your enemy. (and your allies will shut down any negotiations) Even then, there's no guarantee that Putin's successor could be better than him or that Russia could surrender so it's at best a shot in the dark.

 

[UmQasaan]

The New York Times released a new article claiming that the Ukrainian government assassinated Daria Dugina and that they got told off by the U.S. government for it afterwards. I tried to read it from a neutral point of view but for some reason I just couldn't shake this feeling that the CIA proofread it for the NYT editors and that they're still mad about it.

Classic. Just like the Mujahadeen turned in the Taliban, Ukraine is turning into The Islamic State of Hoholistan, courtesy of the US government. These people never fucking learn

 

[thejackal]

More like in the forever term because this conflict escalates every week and the logical conclusion is that Russia will issue a general mobilization in many waves just like Ukraine did.

Also, Ukraine pretty much prohibited itself from negotiating with Russia until a new president takes Putin's place and that means that hundreds of thousands of soldiers (potentially millions) will directly clash near and inside Ukraine's borders indefinitely. I personally don't care who wins because by the end both countries will be absolutely spent and Europe will become even more irrelevant as European economies begin relying on America for energy.

You could say America has resolved the gordian knot that is Europe and Europe will become what Greece became in the Roman Empire, a relic from a time long past.

america really didn't do much, russia just fell into its own trap. they overplayed their hand. there was a good chance the West was just gonna fold and let Russia take the blinds until the invasion. Russia was taking the West's lunch in energy policy and propaganda prior. the status quo was great for russia, which is just what makes it all so stupid for them.

 

[Titos]

more russian mobiks, unhappy about being left outside with no food

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russian POW treated by Ukrainian medics, his wounds infested with maggots


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That first video is actually a brilliant 9D Backgammon strategy by Putin. It goes like this
>Send mobilized troops into field with no food, ammo, or medicine
>They all die in said field
>Send in VDV to erect barb wire fence around bodies and also build gas chambers
>"CYKA BLYAT LOOK THE NAZIS ARE HOHOLCAUSTING POOR RUSSIANS!"
>Steven Spielberg makes Schindlers List 2: Zyklon Blyat starring Steven Seagal about the poor Russians who died in this Hoholcaust
>The Boy In The Adidas Pajamas follows and wins an Oscar
>Russia becomes rich off of the rights to these stories
>Checkmate westoids

 

[draggs]

Ukraine is not going to invade Russia

And Ukraine has to take what it can now and present Russia with continuing to fight is pointless so leave

Russia's mobiks wont be able to conduct offensives but Russia might be able to use them patch up new lines inside Ukraine that dont have weak points eveywhere that hohols can blitz through like they did in the north, and can be sufficiently resupplied unlike their positions in Kherson oblast north of the Dnieper. Then it could be stalemate again

So there could very well be a timer on how long hohols can keep advancing either in big leaps or even steadily

 

[Hell on Earth]

america really didn't do much, russia just fell into its own trap. they overplayed their hand. there was a good chance the West was just gonna fold and let Russia take the blinds until the invasion. Russia was taking the West's lunch in energy policy and propaganda prior to the invasion.

More like Europe set up it's own economic ruin and America saw that Russo-European economic relations were getting better and thus they set up a trap in Ukraine for both. Green retards won't be sacked from office or despoiled of their huge influence because America wants a weak dependant Europe

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

The 2022 Battle of Kiev will be studied for the next thousand years as a textbook example of what happens when an attacking army fails to consider Logistical requirements.

Yep. Putin gets stuck in that long ass list of "canny political leaders who fucked everything up by thinking they had any business in planning a real war."

Definitely, this entire war will be studied for generations. This is the first conventional war fought between two comparable, modern forces on a total war scale. Considering the last one somewhat comparable was Korea there will be a lot of knowledge gained by both sides.

One thing I've wondered about in hindsight is if the plan was for Belarus to enter the war at the same time, invading alongside the Russian forces from its territory.

Main takeaway?

It's not fucking worth it.
Even if it doesn't go nuclear, this will ruin both Russia and Ukraine no matter who wins because it's quickly pissing away a rapidly shrinking resource that is impossible to replace, namely its young men. Both countries have TFR well below replacement levels, and this shit ain't going to help that, nosiree Bob. Add to that the youth fleeing the countries due to devastation, economic collapse, or just not wanting to die in an old men's dick waving competition. If this goes on for much longer, the only way to raise population rates will be to do what Paraguay did after the War of the Triple Alliance, in which *90%* of Paraguayan men died, and even then, a former regional power was forever relegated to a buffer state between Brazil and Argentina.

Whoever wins gets a wasteland of destroyed factories and power plants, with no one young enough or dynamic enough to rebuild or man them.

 

[7th Dweller of Da'at]

uh oh bros

 

[Sammich]

I'm so fucking amused when people say "Durr US lost in Iraq and Afghanistan"

the fucking sandniggers got plowed on day 1 on both and in both they hid behind civilians, tortured, beheaded and enslaved, only emerging like cockroaches when big daddy USA got tired of fucking both countries as they deserved it solely for existing. If you count this as victory of the people or a US defeat, then you are a fucking faggot who should be executed in a Republic of Gilead or rightfully raped to death by invading Chinese or castrated under Globohomo Belgian Caliphate

I understand you are very low iq turkroach scum, you can't help being all fucking retarded. The US lost, and lost big. All they "won" was killing the shit out of tons of brown people. If that was your goal, great job. Well over a trillion dollars to kill a few hundred thousand sand niggers. Not like there are billions more.

 

[76LD910]

If by ass kicked you mean controlling more territory than they set out to at the start, then you are correct

Watching how Russia simps react to bad news in light of the recent annexation announces have really highlighted how little they actually follow what happens on the ground, their knowledge of the war is basically memes and pro-Russian ONSIT with their head buried up their own asses.

By this logic if the current Kherson offensives north of the Dnieper stalled but other offensives swallowed up all of northern Luhansk, struck south into Zaporozhia, reached Melitopol and continued along the coast to cut off the Crimea land bridges Russia would still technically be winning because a bunch of soon to be corpses still held most of Kherson.

To use a non hypothetical example, even with all their success in the south and being aided by forces redeploying from the north they couldn't encircle or even displace the Ukrainian forces along the original DLPR line of contact, Ukrainian forces can still see Donetsk with binoculars from damn near the original positions they've been in since 2014. Vital infrastructure is within range of any conventional artillery or even mortar fire the Ukrainians might use just like it has been the last 8 years, which every vatnigger I've spoken to on this subject insists was a key provocation to attack in the first place.

Seven months into the war and Russia hasn't broke the prewar line that now along with other Ukrainian forces separates them from nearly half the oblast they just formally annexed, I don't call that success.

 

[Random Internet Person]

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[Suburban Bastard]

Watching how Russia simps react to bad news in light of the recent annexation announces have really highlighted how little they actually follow what happens on the ground, their knowledge of the war is basically memes and pro-Russian ONSIT with their head buried up their own asses.

By this logic if the current Kherson offensives north of the Dnieper stalled but other offensives swallowed up all of northern Luhansk, struck south into Zaporozhia, reached Melitopol and continued along the coast to cut off the Crimea land bridges Russia would still technically be winning because a bunch of soon to be corpses still held most of Kherson.

To use a non hypothetical example, even with all their success in the south and being aided by forces redeploying from the north they couldn't encircle or even displace the Ukrainian forces along the original DLPR line of contact, Ukrainian forces can still see Donetsk with binoculars from damn near the original positions they've been in since 2014. Vital infrastructure is within range of any conventional artillery and even mortar fire the Ukrainians might use just like it has been the last 8 years, which every vatnigger I've spoken to on this subject insists was a key provocation to attack in the first place.

Seven months into the war and Russia hasn't broke the prewar line that now along with other Ukrainian forces separates them from nearly half the oblast they just formally annexed, I don't call that success.

There’s been a lot of increasing radio silence from the Russian SIMPs compared to several months back.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Watching how Russia simps react to bad news in light of the recent annexation announces have really highlighted how little they actually follow what happens on the ground, their knowledge of the war is basically memes and pro-Russian ONSIT with their head buried up their own asses.

By this logic if the current Kherson offensives north of the Dnieper stalled but other offensives swallowed up all of northern Luhansk, struck south into Zaporozhia, reached Melitopol and continued along the coast to cut off the Crimea land bridges Russia would still technically be winning because a bunch of soon to be corpses still held most of Kherson.

To use a non hypothetical example, even with all their success in the south and being aided by forces redeploying from the north they couldn't encircle or even displace the Ukrainian forces along the original DLPR line of contact, Ukrainian forces can still see Donetsk with binoculars from damn near the original positions they've been in since 2014. Vital infrastructure is within range of any conventional artillery and even mortar fire the Ukrainians might use just like it has been the last 8 years, which every vatnigger I've spoken to on this subject insists was a key provocation to attack in the first place.

Seven months into the war and Russia hasn't broke the prewar line that now along with other Ukrainian forces separates them from nearly half the oblast they just formally annexed, I don't call that success.

There’s been a lot of increasing radio silence from the Russian SIMPs compared to several months back.

Honestly, when you see the Russians and Putin as “destroyers of Pax Americana”, I think nuance and analysis of the situation on the ground tends to go out the window.

 

[The best and greatest]

Footage of Russian armor surrendering to Ukrainian troops. Something notable about the footage is just how well equipped the Ukies are now. I know its fun to pick on the Germans for only sending helmets but I imagine there are a great many Mobiks who would kill for a helmet