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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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>We should kill POWs based on supposed massacres in Lyman.

This isn't the Russian army, the press can enter Lyman and can report on what's happening and this is quite literally the first I'm hearing of this. But regardless it's funny that their answer to war crimes is more war crimes.
Putin and his Lackeys making shit up to rile the Pro-Invasion bitches.


Either way this war is going to end in 2 ways, Putin leaving office (Dead or Alive doesn't matter) or Nuclear Exchange happens. Honestly I'm hoping for the former then the latter.
 
The pro-Russian space was filled with memes about how the notion that Russia would invade Ukraine was nothing but western fear-mongering.

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The Lavrov statement is also pretty good, and it's still up on Twitter.

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>We should kill POWs based on supposed massacres in Lyman.

This isn't the Russian army, the press can enter Lyman and can report on what's happening and this is quite literally the first I'm hearing of this. But regardless it's funny that their answer to war crimes is more war crimes.

The Russians have accused Ukrainians of committing atrocities before the war even began. The crying about Donetsk being shelled is especially rich coming from the Russians since their aid to the separatists prolonged the war and suffering.

Since the war started, the Russians have accused Ukrainians of being behind basically every atrocity that has been confirmed. Even Bucha is either fake or the work of Ukrainians. The vatniggers also have their own atrocity stories. The FBS glowie 'Patrick Lancaster' discovered a civilian whose corpse had a swastika carved on the stomach. Of course, Azov was immediately accused of being responsible because muh Nazis. Besides Nazism, satanism has also been a big talking point. There are multiple instances of Russians finding 'satanic' material, both from Ukrainian forces and Western 'mercenaries'.


https://www.dailyveracity.com/2022/...naries-fighting-in-ukraine-worship-the-devil/
 
@Ghostse
There was no significant buildup of gas powered power plants in Germany and there was a reduction of gas powered plants in the Netherlands from 2014 onwards.

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In Germany from 29 GW to 32 GW
In the Netherlands from 19 GW to 18 GW

You will use Power-to-Gas as longterm storage in a renewable energy system. Therefor gas capacity, which is flexible, is needed. The real issue of gas usage, at least for Germany, is households for heating and industry, not power generation.

Here is where the buildup of capacity is actually happening. Wind and Solar. Which, to my understanding, are not provided by Russia.
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I'm being facetious and oversimplifying; they still upped their imports from Russia.

Renewables make electric more expensive, making NG in the home or business more attractive. Green-cucked Eurofag governments are happy to take the trade off because it reduces load on their grid, while letting them present numbers about "Reduced emissions at power plants".
(A lesson California's failing powergrid could stand to take a page from, but their state government went even more Eurofag than the Eurofags and banned NG for new residences. TBCF the state is due to be ripped apart by an earthquake any day now, so buried gas mains maybe aren't great in the fault zones. but maybe wait until you don't need to brown-out a quarter of the state on the reg in the summer before doing a full ban)
And, tbf, NG is superior for heating because you're just burning it directly instead of taking the efficiency hit burning it to spin a turbine, sending power over wires, and then using resistance to heat something at the destination; just you just then have to maintain a secondary infrastructure and transport a physical substance.

Even English-speaking vatniggers are calling for extreme retaliation now. I'm glad that they are letting the mask slip more and more with every defeat. When this war started, they were presenting it as a war of liberation that Ukrainians secretly yearned for. When Ukraine didn't surrender immediately, they said that Ukraine had been brainwashed by the West, and like a good older brother, Russia had to save them.




Russians Without Aptitude hasn't gone that far in this case, but after Lyman was liberated, he mentioned that popular Russian Telegram channels called for 50 Ukrainian POWs to be executed for every dead civilian. While he didn't explicitly endorse that proposal, he said that the problem could only be solved by 'war-crimey' means.

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Retaliate against what? Getting publicly pantsed on the battlefield and their asses beat? Russia broke into their house, not the other way around.
 
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Regarding retaliation for the bridge... It's not like Russia has been bombing important Ukrainian infrastructure all along, especially after they started losing territory in the Ukrainian counteroffensive? Nor was it even proven that Ukrainians did it, or how it was even done.
Russia literally blew up the Dudchany bridge to stop the AFU advance only a few days ago. Also, while I'm not an expert on maritime law, I'm pretty sure the Crimea explosion was within Ukraine's recognized territorial waters.

Meanwhile, I wanted to direct this thread's attention to a post in the other thread:
wrt the latest war crime video and whodunit, the video was posted initially to another pro-Ukraine channel today at 13:26. The caption currently reads:
Context: A video is circulating showing tied-up civilians being dumped into a pit. Most say it's Russians killing Ukrainians, but Vatnik Twitter (including our friend Big Serge) is claiming it's Azov killing pro-Russians. They're arguing based on timestamps and Azov Telegram posts that Azov committed the crime and at first claimed credit and then realizing this looked bad instead blamed the Russians. The quoted post effectively refutes these arguments (although, to be sure, we still have no sure proof of guilt).

(Damn troons, I had to switch over to Tor to post this.)
 
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Even English-speaking vatniggers are calling for extreme retaliation now. I'm glad that they are letting the mask slip more and more with every defeat. When this war started, they were presenting it as a war of liberation that Ukrainians secretly yearned for. When Ukraine didn't surrender immediately, they said that Ukraine had been brainwashed by the West, and like a good older brother, Russia had to save them.




Russians Without Aptitude hasn't gone that far in this case, but after Lyman was liberated, he mentioned that popular Russian Telegram channels called for 50 Ukrainian POWs to be executed for every dead civilian. While he didn't explicitly endorse that proposal, he said that the problem could only be solved by 'war-crimey' means.

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WTF is that "Slavic National Front Z" crap? Kolovrat/Sonnenrad? I suspect Russian gayops. Imagine demanding genocide of other Slavs as a Slav.
 
Keep getting these God awful Ukraine videos recommended on YouTube. I've noticed this particular one of "intercepted" phone calls. Is it a Russian text to speech or is he using the same actors all the calls sound the same and are out in a very convenient timeframe to maximize views
 
Gen. Wesley Clark (ret) looks like a living puppet from Team America.
But his advice is sound. Don't run too far ahead of your supply lines. Any idiot who has studied war for at least a serviceable amount of time would know that armies need to be resupplied after every battle or skirmish.

Here's another general talking about the Vatnik way of war:


Funny thing about Russia treating its men like shit: this ain't new. This general once saw Russian troops in action in the past, and they treated their men like shit back then, too. Only now, it's harder to hide.
 
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So is it okay when they do it or when we do it or is it just not okay?
Didn't say it was ok to do it at all.

Moral sperging from US retards about civilian casualties during war time is hypocritical considering their body count far exceeds anyone else's.

In other news:
OPEC+ cuts oil production by two million barrels and Aramco increases prices to the US by 20¢. That's a giant "fuck you" to the US, what do you think the implications of that are?
 
Retired US general gives his 2 cents on the bridge getting destroyed:

Talking sense until the TDS kicks in.


I guess its not his fault though, Fucking CNN just casually mentioning Trump's statments trying to tie him to Vatnik doomer 5th columnists.

I don't think Trump is being afraid, he's being realistic. He spent 4 years trying to go get Europe to build their forces and arsenals, and they refused, and you got comedies like german ammo stocks being worthless. If you don't get Ukraine stopped, Putin's likely to try to trigger WWIII and NATO needs to be ready.

I don't think Putin would succeed in starting WWIII over Ukraine and would be stopped by someone in the Kremlin, but who knows. The man has clearly abandoned any sense of international decorum or worries about long term consequences.


Gen. Wesley Clark (ret) looks like a living puppet from Team America.

He was alright before he got TDS.
His talk of the Individual soldier though brings up some very revelant "So... Afghanistan then?"
But clearly Afghanis, on the whole, are subhuman boyfuckers with a cowardly elite at the top. There are a few ultrabased exceptions, but on the whole that's it.
Ukraine apparently spent past 8 years actually absorbing and applying the American & British military advisors' lessons. And I'm still trying to get my mind around that.
 
Didn't say it was ok to do it at all.

Moral sperging from US retards about civilian casualties during war time is hypocritical considering their body count far exceeds anyone else's.

In other news:
OPEC+ cuts oil production by two million barrels and Aramco increases prices to the US by 20¢. That's a giant "fuck you" to the US, what do you think the implications of that are?
Who said I'm from US, dumbass?
He was alright before he got TDS.
His talk of the Individual soldier though brings up some very revelant "So... Afghanistan then?"
But clearly Afghanis, on the whole, are subhuman boyfuckers with a cowardly elite at the top. There are a few ultrabased exceptions, but on the whole that's it.
Ukraine apparently spent past 8 years actually absorbing and applying the American & British military advisors' lessons. And I'm still trying to get my mind around that.
I don't see anything strange, you just have to consider history between Ukraine and Russia. Things were on the mend until Putin decided to reopen old wounds and erase Ukraine as a nation off the map.
 
Who said I'm from US, dumbass?

I don't see anything strange, you just have to consider history between Ukraine and Russia. Things were on the mend until Putin decided to reopen old wounds and erase Ukraine as a nation off the map.
Who gives a fuck where your from? Besides, It wasn't a reply to you, you fucking retard.

You're also wrong, things were on the mend until Ukraine violated the Minsk agreement. But, seeing you can't read a reply correctly no wonder you're brain dead.
 
Who gives a fuck where your from? Besides, It wasn't a reply to you, you fucking retard.

You're also wrong, things were on the mend until Ukraine violated the Minsk agreement. But, seeing you can't read a reply correctly no wonder you're brain dead.
And that necessitated an invasion where tens of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians died?

Also, the Russians' military prestige was destroyed by this war. The next time they say "Russia", they will no longer assume a country that can match and even invade the United States as depicted in Call of Duty or Red Dawn. The first thing that will pop into their minds is a third-world shithole with gas and a whole lot of frozen wastes.

And now, Russia can't even supply or equip its newly-mobilized troops. What a joke.

Didn't say it was ok to do it at all.

Moral sperging from US retards about civilian casualties during war time is hypocritical considering their body count far exceeds anyone else's.
No, kiddo, that'd be Russia.

Russia under the Tsars, the Commies, and Putin send their men to die in droves to try and win wars, making them the biggest killers of Russians outside of vodka and abortion.

And the Holodomor and other Soviet war crimes killed millions, and they pretty much explain why every Eastern European country with sense wants nothing to do with Moscow.

In other news:
OPEC+ cuts oil production by two million barrels and Aramco increases prices to the US by 20¢. That's a giant "fuck you" to the US, what do you think the implications of that are?
We retrieve our soldiers defending their interests and let them get fucked by their own stupidity.

Seriously, the OPEC states were reliant on American protection for quite some time. It's time we let them stand on their own. They won't play ball with us? Fine. We'll find other sources of energy (LOL nuclear) and they can go fuck themselves.
 
And when told by Orange Man this wasn't a great idea, Germany doubled down and shut down their nuke plants too.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. It wasn't because of anything that dumb fat adulterer said. Germany planned to shut down power plants in 2011 shortly after the Fukushima disaster. This "Trump told Germany blah blah" is fucking retarded. Yeah in hindsight it was a bad idea but it has absolutely nothing to do with that orange piece of shit.
 
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