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She says she is "too far gone" to detransition and is getting hugboxed by stupid women for this "brave honesty yada yada." (archive)

The baldness is unfortunate (lol) but she could shave it off and wear a wig- women with health conditions and even ultra orthodox Jewish housewives do this all the time and it is not any kind of big deal.

She'd also look less like George Costanza if she swapped out the dork glasses for something more current and dressed like, you know, a woman.

Here's some actual brave truth telling:

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People like this bald weirdo want it both ways. They realize they are fucking themselves up beyond repair with the trooning "medicine." But they detest the idea of trying to be a "normie" and will fight it with all they have.

This is fucking awful, and I bet, completely useless, as her face probably gives it away, anyway. They fuck with their hormones, grow pube beards and lose their hair, only to look like a balding PCOS beard chick.
I understand the arguments for treating people like her without the hugbox and with the full mockery of the Internet.
However, I have goals and priorities, and I want detransitioners to feel safe(er) to come out and share their experience, because it frustrates the troons to no end and it helps deconstruct their lies and attempts to destroy medicine and reality itself. We need allies, and these deeply damaged people are among the most precious allies one can find in this fight.
And yes she can wear wigs and make herself look more feminine, but the too far gone feeling has probably infected her mind and everything is depression and struggle to accept yourself and the absolutely huge mistake you made.
It's important to remember that the main guilt lies not with individuals, but with the institutions, with the people in power, with everyone that enabled activists even after millions of warning from normal people that we will slip the fuck off the slope into pure madness. Without the academia, without the greedy and cowardly medics that abandoned their oath, without the politicians that created laws to protect deviancy and bully normal people that oppose this (we all know what's going on in UK, Canada etc.), we will be able to oppose this phenomenon with implicit social norms, with freedom of association and just allowing general opprobrium to take place.
 
I understand the arguments for treating people like her without the hugbox and with the full mockery of the Internet.
However, I have goals and priorities, and I want detransitioners to feel safe(er) to come out and share their experience, because it frustrates the troons to no end and it helps deconstruct their lies and attempts to destroy medicine and reality itself. We need allies, and these deeply damaged people are among the most precious allies one can find in this fight.
And yes she can wear wigs and make herself look more feminine, but the too far gone feeling has probably infected her mind and everything is depression and struggle to accept yourself and the absolutely huge mistake you made.
It's important to remember that the main guilt lies not with individuals, but with the institutions, with the people in power, with everyone that enabled activists even after millions of warning from normal people that we will slip the fuck off the slope into pure madness. Without the academia, without the greedy and cowardly medics that abandoned their oath, without the politicians that created laws to protect deviancy and bully normal people that oppose this (we all know what's going on in UK, Canada etc.), we will be able to oppose this phenomenon with implicit social norms, with freedom of association and just allowing general opprobrium to take place.
These people are useless as "allies" for anything. They are their own worst enemies and will not be any less so to anyone else they affiliate. Enjoy the damage they do to the troons while it lasts- they'll turn on the people who take them in during their "detrans" phase next. Just look at "CrashChaosCats"/Cari/Ky Schevers.
 
Isn't body dysmorphia just good old low self-esteem?

I think « body dysmorphia » may have changed from what it once was. Troons seem to think it’s looking in the mirror and not seeing what you want to see, whereas I was always told it was looking in the mirror and not seeing what everyone else saw (the most common example being a dangerously unweight woman seeing herself as fat).

Drunkenly off topic: It actually bothers me a little that it seems to have transitioned (pun intended, because I am hilarious) from an actual medical diagnosis to a way for people online to exaggerate their very normal feelings. You see the same thing with « being triggered » now just meaning something makes you uncomfortable as opposed to giving you violent flashbacks to men’s flesh melting from their skulls in Vietnam, or PTSD being handed out like candy for any bad day rather that truly scarring experiences.

So yeah my stupid point is that there is genuine body dysmorphia out there, and it does genuinely fuck with your perception and sense of reality, but as I know it it’s looking back at a picture taken 10 years ago and knowing you were a land whale back then but the picture shows a malnourished twink that you never knew existed, not screaming at your dick for not being the anime waifu vagina of your dreams.
 
Troons see themselves the way they do because they are getting high off the process. Try to shoot up some meth or 4mmc and look at yourself in the mirror, if you get dose high enough to bust your roof off, you will reach the point of buffalo bill mirror dancing.
Troons need their brain receptors to be inhibited or even better fried out so that they can no longer feel sexual pleasure, that's the only way for them to become less deviant.
 
FtM and half a decade of likely irreversible damage, one QT observes that this is going in debt to look like what makes most males desperate to avoid, an out of shape balding manlet.
She better invest in Rogaine and laser hair removal. Getting rid of the gross boy clothes and soy face glasses would be a start.
 
FtM and half a decade of likely irreversible damage, one QT observes that this is going in debt to look like what makes most males desperate to avoid, an out of shape balding manlet.
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Not really, you can have genuine reasons to be dysmorphic, like obesity and various other genetic mishaps or accidents. There are plenty of people that drew a rather short straw in life and have severe difficulties finding affection and partners, but the answer will never be inceldom, suicides or amputating things you dislike.
She got that huge testosterone nose, T really did a number on her, she'll never look like an attractive woman, but looking at her facial structures I don't think she would've made a pretty woman to begin with.
 
These people are useless as "allies" for anything. They are their own worst enemies and will not be any less so to anyone else they affiliate. Enjoy the damage they do to the troons while it lasts- they'll turn on the people who take them in during their "detrans" phase next. Just look at "CrashChaosCats"/Cari/Ky Schevers.

FtM and half a decade of likely irreversible damage, one QT observes that this is going in debt to look like what makes most males desperate to avoid, an out of shape balding manlet.
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Not really, you can have genuine reasons to be dysmorphic, like obesity and various other genetic mishaps or accidents. There are plenty of people that drew a rather short straw in life and have severe difficulties finding affection and partners, but the answer will never be inceldom, suicides or amputating things you dislike.

That's a shame about CrashChaosCats, I used to think that she was a sane detrans for seemingly being accepting of her body and mistake instead of whining how "They ruined meee1!1" like most detrans cow we've been seeing in the last few pages, and she seemed to leave the internet for good... And yet... Yep, she's back to gender nonsense again. I do think it's hard for any trooners to be truly sane anyway, because it requires a huge amount of leap of logics to even believe in bullshit like "gender identity" in the first place. Troons like to ask normal people "Imagine if you wake up as the opposite sex" as a way to teach people about dysphoria, but this never works because normal people would just go about their day with their new sex. Most people don't have "internal gender identity" to get worked up over like these loons.

"Too late to detransition" is a very gender ideology poisoned mindset, because you've never become the opposite sex, nor truly look like one. Ironically... the more trannies we have, the easier it gets for people to clock them. She'll be seen as just an ugly bald woman because that's what she is. E.g. In Thailand, ladyboys are a lot more feminine and high effort than average western MtFs, they fool the foreigners, but locals can all clock them easily because we see them all the time and know where to look.

Due to their unresolved delusion and myriad mental issues, detrooners tems to either go back into surgery chasing again in hope to 'revert' their bodies because they have a warped ideas about sex: they think that being a man/woman is simply a collections of shallow characteristics like clothes, hairstyle, and tits size. (This is why they thought trooning out works in the first place) - or they make "detrans" into a cause and an identity because they don't have a real personality beyond the labels.

Unlike some people here, I don't mind if you're going to be a bald woman with beard and zipper chest scars. I actually think more highly of people who can accept their body, especially if it is a 'true acceptance' and not just cope. It's better than ruining it more by hopelessly trying to reverse it. Trying to police what they should look or dress tend to lead them into another type of insane detransers that are all about overcompensating and ended up obsessing with getting endless 'reversion' surgeries which don't actually work. All they should do do though, is to suck it up and accept their body and the truth that it's largely their fault and no one can change sex... Instead of whining how everyone "made them do it" and fishing for pity on Twitter. They need to work on their deep seated issue that caused their body dysmorphia and gender belief or else they'll never be happy.


I just hope that in the future, all "transition" procedures are seen as simply body modifications just like stupid tattoos or butt-ugly lip injections... And not anything meaningful identity wise.
 
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Speaking of lip injections, I've found myself wondering why MtFs will get their skulls shaved down and their eyebrows pasted higher but won't do something relatively simple like lip filler in an attempt to make their faces look more feminine.
Because that shit is 1000% about moderation or you look like a ridiculous fish. These faggots can't do anything in moderation though. This thread is 600+ pages of evidence.
 
FtM and half a decade of likely irreversible damage, one QT observes that this is going in debt to look like what makes most males desperate to avoid, an out of shape balding manlet.
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Not really, you can have genuine reasons to be dysmorphic, like obesity and various other genetic mishaps or accidents. There are plenty of people that drew a rather short straw in life and have severe difficulties finding affection and partners, but the answer will never be inceldom, suicides or amputating things you dislike.
Here's the video. This is a woman after 5 years of T. She's only 21.


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I think « body dysmorphia » may have changed from what it once was. Troons seem to think it’s looking in the mirror and not seeing what you want to see, whereas I was always told it was looking in the mirror and not seeing what everyone else saw (the most common example being a dangerously unweight woman seeing herself as fat).

Drunkenly off topic: It actually bothers me a little that it seems to have transitioned (pun intended, because I am hilarious) from an actual medical diagnosis to a way for people online to exaggerate their very normal feelings. You see the same thing with « being triggered » now just meaning something makes you uncomfortable as opposed to giving you violent flashbacks to men’s flesh melting from their skulls in Vietnam, or PTSD being handed out like candy for any bad day rather that truly scarring experiences.

So yeah my stupid point is that there is genuine body dysmorphia out there, and it does genuinely fuck with your perception and sense of reality, but as I know it it’s looking back at a picture taken 10 years ago and knowing you were a land whale back then but the picture shows a malnourished twink that you never knew existed, not screaming at your dick for not being the anime waifu vagina of your dreams.
I think many troons DO have body dysmorphia, just not in the "usual" way; it rather seems that the hulking MtF beasts see themselves as cute uWu girls because of their hormone induced moobs and the chunky little FtM think they look like twinks when they're just balding and sounding like chipmunks on steroids. And anytime they discover something that doesn't align with that picture in their heads they're sure they can just operate on that little detail and all will be well...until they inevitably see the next thing...and the next...
 
Chunky_pickle (that nutty TiF that fucked her clit up by pumping) made a comment:
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She's definitely not the only TiF I've heard of that has opted for phallo after a failed metoidioplasty. I guess if you get one and you're still miserable it would make sense to try.
"my best option is peeing in a bottle and dumping it to minimize risk"

Just guy things.

There is a rumor that Kurt Cobain's suicide was the long term result of his digestive issues- gut pain for which he was prescribed opiates which worsened the constipation and then led in turn to dependency and heroin and more constipation and more gut pain and bang. Supposedly the song "Pennyroyal Tea" is about futile attempts to obtain relief via folk/herbal remedies.

I see a similar trajectory down the road for this one.
Uh, check your facts sweatie, Kurt was a trans woman and not being able to get affirming care is why she killed herself. All the trans women on Twitter see all the signs of an egg that just needed cracking in Kurt.

From one of the great and foremost scholars* of transness we have more proof of Kurt's truth recently:
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"my best option is peeing in a bottle and dumping it to minimize risk"

Just guy things.


Uh, check your facts sweatie, Kurt was a trans woman and not being able to get affirming care is why she killed herself. All the trans women on Twitter see all the signs of an egg that just needed cracking in Kurt.

From one of the great and foremost scholars* of transness we have more proof of Kurt's truth recently:
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Wow, feeling guilty about masturbating, writing about playing with dolls, and starting puberty late must mean Cobain was 100% trans! These are the real deep thinkers of our time. No, it couldn't possibly be that he is using metaphors and euphemisms here to convey something else in his writing. No, no... that would be absurd.

Man these people are dull. How would they interpret this song? A song about a man getting his dick cut off? Does this make him extra super duper trans?
I was seeking out for a funnel
Not only magnets but I could pry bar it shut
Glueing my manhood towards a manhole
Like peppy lepew the scent
hey hey had lightweight clutch

I got my titilate spayed x 3
i got my titilate

Push the assbutton
Tweeking and flexing if the wind blows just right
JACKING THEMSELVES OFF. polyester
Highwater jumpsuits and a raped ape

I got my titilate spayed x 3
I got my titilate

I don't know why
I got a joke too silly to say
Don't touch the balls
I got a dick, dick, hear my fucking hate

Vinegar and water is gaining monthly
Fiberglass insulation disquised as cotton candy
Spawning down stream el rancho ovulate
Feeding a cow hamburger and raw
Peter has brought me the tiki idol
Billy's sneer reminds me of someone
Homesick, a bay aboard the love boat
Toni, Tenile, Sonny Bono, Charo had a nice set of lungs

I got my titilate spayed
I got a little tail
I got my titilate spayed x4
 
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Tbh if she shaved her head clean she would look like a regular bull dyke. The only thing that makes her look sorta male is the shape of her hairline. If she started a GFM for some laser hair removal and a nose job, she'd be set.
The frog voice is here to stay, tho. She will never laugh or sing like a woman and she will have to perpetually force her voice into a unnatural register to sound like one.

More likely the boobs are gone too, not to mention the clit... like i don't know or want to know the full extent but she clearly left a version of her behind that she will never ever recover. If she is unhappy about the transformation and isn't sure she would be happier being seen as a man that sucks.

Most Ftm seem like they really can't win because they were girls to start with, with all that it entails, and even as men they are so often short, round and doughy, which isn't something people like that much in men, not that they adore it in women.

Do Ftm have a even bigger tendency to baldness than men? There's the idea going around that the bald gene is on the x chromosome but i am pretty sure it's fake news.
 
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"my best option is peeing in a bottle and dumping it to minimize risk"

Just guy things.


Uh, check your facts sweatie, Kurt was a trans woman and not being able to get affirming care is why she killed herself. All the trans women on Twitter see all the signs of an egg that just needed cracking in Kurt.

From one of the great and foremost scholars* of transness we have more proof of Kurt's truth recently:
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The frog voice is here to stay, tho. She will never laugh or sing like a woman and she will have to perpetually force her voice into a unnatural register to sound like one.

More likely the boobs are gone too, not to mention the clit... like i don't know or want to know the full extent but she clearly left a version of her behind that she will never ever recover. If she is unhappy about the transformation and isn't sure she would be happier being seen as a man that sucks.

Most Ftm seem like they really can't win because they were girls to start with, with all that it entails, and even as men they are so often short, round and doughy, which isn't something people like that much in men, not that they adore it in women.

Do Ftm have a even bigger tendency to baldness than men? There's the idea going around that the bald gene is on the x chromosome but i am pretty sure it's fake news.
Since women have an XX, and the hair is expressed on the X, they have double the hair genes. So if the paternal and maternal genetics express balding they have twice the chance of balding as actual males. Maybe someone more sciencey can explain it lol.

Also, that ftmtf KC would have been such a cute bull dyke. There's so many lost butch beauty detrans vloggers on youtube. Pour one out for lesbians.
 
These people are useless as "allies" for anything. They are their own worst enemies and will not be any less so to anyone else they affiliate. Enjoy the damage they do to the troons while it lasts- they'll turn on the people who take them in during their "detrans" phase next. Just look at "CrashChaosCats"/Cari/Ky Schevers.
Hol-eeeeeeee shit. I remember Crash from back in the day on tumblr. I read her detransition stuff but would never interact with her because she was clearly so unstable then, like so many of them. It seemed like any comment that anybody made on her work, no matter how positive, including from other women who'd experienced the same shit, she would pick apart. Nobody could ever understand her and nothing was ever good enough.
Of course you chalk it up to a person being in pain, angry, confused. But it looks like it was just how she is, and now even she's turned on her own work and all the people who supported her. What a deranged asshole.
We DEFINITELY need a detransition thread. As much as I want to support people who want to turn away from the troon cult, there's a bad way to do it, and there's got to be a "don't be that guy" example.
 
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