And then you expand that to trooning out advice, except if you suggest that maybe they shouldn't wear trans pins to their workplace since they're presenting as their birth sex and they've already told you at length how their boss hates them, well, that means you're transphobic, and the rest of the group begins to turn on you. They love giving the troon bad advice and love-bombing them, but they're the equivalent of a crowd telling a man on a ledge to jump. They amuse themselves and take on none of the consequences when he drops.
I've seen this so many times, and been the good Samaritan who ate shit for trying to warn someone against jumping, or asking the schmucks egging them on (or, rather, hatching them) to stop telling them to jump.
It sucks. It really, really sucks. It's nearly impossible to tell a troon "hey the love bombs will not last forever and you're fucking yourself over and going to live a short life that turns into a nightmare." You're telling them to go cold turkey off of a something like a drug, they can't see why they'd ever need to or want to in the state they're in, and so many are clearly experiencing any kind of affection or attention for the first time in a long time, or ever. On top of all that, they're being love bombed -
that fucks up normal, healthy people. Incel-level alienation and marginalization with a side of autism makes this almost pointless to try to reason against in light of that.
There's even less chance of success telling people who are making other human beings into experiments to cut it out, since they're doing The Right Thing™
and are insulated from the long term consequences of this fucked experiment, just like you say. They get clout, someone to vicariously get something out of if they buy into it, and a prop to wave if they're in the know but just shrewdly going along.
Some get a sex object out of it. I won't elaborate.
Yeah, you have to be the asshole, sometimes even in a moral sense: sometimes you need to just sit on your hands and let it fucking happen. If you can't stop it, and all you can do is watch, just take notes and try to talk to people who will listen and help stop this shit before it. Why throw away all standing you might have when it's just going to get twisted into "transphobia" and used to reinforce the programming?
Seems like the best thing to do is divest from troons and hopefully inoculate people with the truth, and support dorky social fuckups, which we should do anyway, so they don't end up sent to hell before they die.
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my friend. I've been trying to help him but there's so many things to fix and it seems as if no one in his life cares.
- His job is stressful. Some of his coworkers treat him like shit. I've given him advice on how to combat that. He hasn't used it.
- The insurance he gets for his job is shit. I genuinely don't know why he chose the job or why he didn't just get insurance through his state. He can't get a therapist or a psychiatrist so he gets adderall through a dealer. I genuinely don't know why he does this. His family is rich. He has a job that pays more than anyone in the group and he gets a bunch of bonuses.
- He seems to be stupid when it comes to his safety. He lives in Utah which is a conservative Christian pit but the idiot wears a trans pin and has pride flags on his apartment balcony. He's gotten verbal attacks from it and it doesn't click in his head to at least not brazenly display stuff.
At this point, I feel insane because it seems as though I'm the only one that actually cares about him. His troon friends lovebomb him. His family doesn't seem to care. And I can't really do anything because I'm many states away. At this point, I'm getting hopeless. It feels like I'm building a sandcastle while the tides are coming in and, to powerlevel, I don't have the energy levels to do it due to a condition I have. And the discord we're in has people that drive me up a wall.
At this point with all these things, I'm mostly just thinking "Is it worth it? The people he has around him are shit. He doesn't listen to me. He doesn't seem to care about me. Why should I essentially be a parent for someone who is a grown adult who wouldn't do it for me?"
As I expanded upon above, he's getting high off of the lovebombs and the attention. He's living through a shared paracosm of internet derviced, text-on-a-screen love and 'validation'. Dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, adrenaline, vasopressin, and the likes are getting him higher than you would believe. Just like Narcan pisses off shitheads because you ruined their high, you trying to warn him out of this shit is just a downer to him. You're trying to make sure that high isn't an OD that kills him, he just wants to get off on it, damn the consequences.
I don't know his situation beyond what you've posted, but I can say that the possibility that you need to divest in a way that minimizes any collateral damage on his part is high. I doubt you'll be able to do anything except learn from his mistakes and perhaps use him as an example to warn others.
If his own family gave up, that's often a sign it's a lost cause, my dude.
Suffer well.
