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When was the last time RvB was good?

  • Before RWBY

    Votes: 61 62.9%
  • Season 10

    Votes: 22 22.7%
  • Season 11

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Season 12

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Season 13

    Votes: 10 10.3%
  • Season 14

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • Before RvB Zero

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • Total voters
    97
  • Poll closed .
I always find myself asking how some of these early YouTubers (and other sites) create a company and let it get so bloated with people you don't need. I'm not saying you can't coordinate or do stuff with others; but when your content was fucking around with Machinima, Let's Plays, or whatever, you don't need the status of being a real and honest 100% adult business. Be stealthy millionaires and huge contractors for one-time/seasonal shit like merch or whatever.

It may be, because I'm on the outside looking in; but the less moving parts (people) you have, the easier it is to keep things simple and focused.

Also, the last good RWBY season was when they got picked for Blaz Blue Cross-Tag Battle.
Simple. Money. Sure you can stay doing what got you famous, but why do that when you can hire more people in an effort to make more content that makes more money? In the end, the almighty dollar corrupts all.
 
I always find myself asking how some of these early YouTubers (and other sites) create a company and let it get so bloated with people you don't need. I'm not saying you can't coordinate or do stuff with others; but when your content was fucking around with Machinima, Let's Plays, or whatever, you don't need the status of being a real and honest 100% adult business. Be stealthy millionaires and huge contractors for one-time/seasonal shit like merch or whatever.

It may be, because I'm on the outside looking in; but the less moving parts (people) you have, the easier it is to keep things simple and focused.

Also, the last good RWBY season was when they got picked for Blaz Blue Cross-Tag Battle.
Its an issue with scale and success. If something your passionate about does well, and you have more plans for it, you bring in one or two people to help with the new quality goal, If it continues to do well and you still have plans for it, those one or two people bring in one or two people to help them. This repeats endlessly until the project head is happy with the result and ends the project, or you end up with so many people that it becomes more and more difficult to trim the fat.
 
Geoff on suicide watch? People on reddit are reading into his twitter likes.

https://archive.ph/yaNmD (apparently not the first post of this)

EDIT: Realized this was my second post asking this... i am sorry for the autism
 

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I always find myself asking how some of these early YouTubers (and other sites) create a company and let it get so bloated with people you don't need. I'm not saying you can't coordinate or do stuff with others; but when your content was fucking around with Machinima, Let's Plays, or whatever, you don't need the status of being a real and honest 100% adult business. Be stealthy millionaires and huge contractors for one-time/seasonal shit like merch or whatever.

It may be, because I'm on the outside looking in; but the less moving parts (people) you have, the easier it is to keep things simple and focused.

Also, the last good RWBY season was when they got picked for Blaz Blue Cross-Tag Battle.
We would all like to say the same. I imagine it was a bit of a snowball. First it is just a couple of dudes in a house, and once you're making some money it's a few more handpicked people. Then you decide to do an event, sell a few shirts, and take a few sponsors. Then suddenly you have a whole team for events, merch, advertising, a whole animation arm and dozens of properties. Once it got to 2014 and they sold to Fullscreen, the founders lost any real control over the company as a whole. I can't say I wouldn't have done the same, I would imagine in 2014 anyone with a share of RT got seriously life changing money.

I will say, this is a great example of why your company will never be your friend. Your boss might be a great guy, your coworkers might be cool, you might literally get to play video games all day, but always remember: The Company isn't a person. The Company is an entity that doesn't care about you, and wants to pay you the least for the most amount of work. It doesn't matter how much you like your boss, do not let The Company pay you shit and work you unpaid. With all the discussion about trans/race/whatever controversies RT is going through, I hope this is what people learn the most. The Company has way more power than you - know your rights and don't let yourself be treated like shit.
 
I always find myself asking how some of these early YouTubers (and other sites) create a company and let it get so bloated with people you don't need. I'm not saying you can't coordinate or do stuff with others; but when your content was fucking around with Machinima, Let's Plays, or whatever, you don't need the status of being a real and honest 100% adult business. Be stealthy millionaires and huge contractors for one-time/seasonal shit like merch or whatever.

It may be, because I'm on the outside looking in; but the less moving parts (people) you have, the easier it is to keep things simple and focused.

Also, the last good RWBY season was when they got picked for Blaz Blue Cross-Tag Battle.
I agree with you, but I'll play devil's advocate for what likely motivated them (in no particular order):

-The perception of bigger corporations and industry people for collaboration. A small group of very skilled individuals should make just as large of an impact, but when trying to sell your company to big time industry people, they'll have the perception that a company with 100 chucklefucks is a safer bet than a tight team of 15.

-Tax write-offs. Past a certain point of big income, it becomes an increasing balance where as you increase your revenue, you also are increasing your taxes at varying scales. There are lots of ways to mitigate and create tax write-offs to try to mitigate that. One of those is stuff like employee benefits and retirement savings contributions. More employees give more opportunities. RoosterTeeth obviously had that on their mind in lots of ways, including the annual "Extra Life" charity campaign that helped bring a big yearly tax write-off for the company as well, combined with the positive press.

-Legacy bloat and KTLO (keeping the lights on). RoosterTeeth was ahead of its time by building their massive (at the time) Roosterteeth site as an independent site, predating Youtube (as a video hosting platform), and Facebook/Reddit (as a social media site). Originally the Youtube channel was more of a secondary backup of what they posted on their own site.

While they were ahead of their time (and maintained the site as a secondary that could function independently of youtube's whims), maintaining their site demands a significant footprint in terms of IT and tech staffing. Given the availability needed, they needed at least a core tech team to at minimum KTLO, which given the original age of the site, must require an increasing amount of legacy jank work, and/or rebuilds and feature enhancements. For any rebuild, the new build team would need to be independent of the KTLO team, then some level of server management staff, etc.

Given the significant expenses involved, I can't help but feel part of the push of First membership was to drive people to the site, if only to justify what must be a significant expense to maintain, rather than just being a merch store and discussion venue that cost you tons of bucks whereas others just use a merch option and subreddit that don't cost them lots of tech costs.


Anyway, that last one is mostly a sunk cost on their part, but its hard to walk away from what made you big in the first place.
 
Some more tweets I found funny especially the new account some one made to piss people off.
Also the picture is someone who having hard time coping with the recent rt revelations.
 

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Does anyone enjoy the Red Web podcast?

I find it okay
I listened to like 5 episodes, it comes off like a unlikable guy telling a story to his retarded friend. There are other podcasts that do it better so I stopped listening.


Also I wonder where the... BU-BU-BUT THE WEBSITE people are right about now?

Edited to say: Also I wanted to say that I just love that it's the audience that RT worked so hard to cultivate that's eating them alive right now.
 
The most annoying part of these tweets and reddit messages is that these people are not intellectually capable of making posts with even the most basic level of proper grammar and syntax. I hate having to decipher and figure out what they were trying to say. Like seriously, take the extra ten seconds and reread your post to make sure it makes sense.
 
"Just because it was 10 years ago when Geoff, Gavin, and Michael said that stuff doesn't mean it's ok"

Absolute pottery
Stones, glass houses, etc.

How could you so confidently complain about people using slurs against you when you knew you've used those slurs publicly in the past? Should have just stuck to not getting paid complaints.
 
Guys I grew as person over the years but Gavin and Geoff didn’t so I can’t accept their apology and yes Michael did use slurs but he too has grown as a person unlike Gavin and Geoff.
This whiney cunt is 34!!?!!? Geez, I picked him as mid 20s the way he carries on.

There is no hope for this guy to ever grow or change, it's over for him.
 
I always find myself asking how some of these early YouTubers (and other sites) create a company and let it get so bloated with people you don't need. I'm not saying you can't coordinate or do stuff with others; but when your content was fucking around with Machinima, Let's Plays, or whatever, you don't need the status of being a real and honest 100% adult business. Be stealthy millionaires and huge contractors for one-time/seasonal shit like merch or whatever.

It may be, because I'm on the outside looking in; but the less moving parts (people) you have, the easier it is to keep things simple and focused.

Also, the last good RWBY season was when they got picked for Blaz Blue Cross-Tag Battle.
Burnie always had pretensions of being a serious writer/directory; he went to film school after all. Despite talking about how great the internet is because it lets you do whatever you want, Burnie always tried to push their content towards traditional forms like TV shows and movies. I think he thought he could use internet experience to break into Hollywood, when that failed he figured the next best thing is to fake-it-till-you-make-it and pretend that RT is a big boy production company. They never got the entertainment industry to care, and trying to go corporate, plus getting older, pushed them out of being the energetic, irreverent, band of friends into the joyless, corporate finger-wagers they are today. I don't know if there is a way to make an internet video company work. It's unlikely you're going to make enough money for the rest of your life during your creative years, and there's no path to being a producer who cultivates new talent, because there's no resource barrier to prevent any random kid from making videos, you know, the reason you turned to the internet in the first place.
 
Kdin just got his fucking past exposed holy shit will link tweet https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnL292348/status/1582129148902113280
I Always knew that all it would take was one shit show for people to start digging deep. Also Kdin makes it sound like it was a one off thing. Nope. As someone who watched Tatsudoshi I can safely say him, his (now ex) wife, and brother in-law turned friend, made a habit of racial jokes at least twice per let's play. Don't believe me? This was a one off video that they did that somehow got uploaded to a bunch of channels at the time
 
I always find myself asking how some of these early YouTubers (and other sites) create a company and let it get so bloated with people you don't need. I'm not saying you can't coordinate or do stuff with others; but when your content was fucking around with Machinima, Let's Plays, or whatever, you don't need the status of being a real and honest 100% adult business. Be stealthy millionaires and huge contractors for one-time/seasonal shit like merch or whatever.

It may be, because I'm on the outside looking in; but the less moving parts (people) you have, the easier it is to keep things simple and focused.

Also, the last good RWBY season was when they got picked for Blaz Blue Cross-Tag Battle.
I remember listening to the podcast and scratching my head at the amount of production that went into it. It made and still makes literally no sense to me. Podcast is the simplest, easiest form of media with the smallest barrier to entry there could possibly be.

Also, there is no such thing as a good RWBY season. It's always seemed the blandest "Anime" ever with the ugliest "animation".
 
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