Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

"another person's erotic attachment to my visible lack of discipline"

This is another version of his belief that Mallory's mom had the hots for him. Positive or negative, he interprets all interest in him as a weird psychosexual play.

A couple of options:
  • He is associating any "discipline" he receives as part of his job as rape. That's a disgusting way to throw the word around.
  • He was actually having some kind of affair with someone in his department, and now that they are trying to reassert control professionally, he is flipping out. You know. "If we want to keep doing this, you have to do better in the department." That's like ... rape, man.
  • However, the second one doesn't make sense because he says it is the most common. Which means it's not a unique situation, it's just Joe bristling every time someone speaks to him like a person and not an NPC in his fantasy.
At least he admits he has no discipline and is an embarrassment to Berkeley.
 
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He's not describing brain fog here - he's describing being an arsehole. Brain fog is more akin to mild dementia and involves memory issues & sometimes losing your sense of direction. Rate me autistic but it's pissing me off that he's using a phrase for something experienced by cancer patients or people on unpleasant medications for serious illness - "brain fog" is shit. Being made stupid by your chemotherapy is a much bigger deal than his "I'm a bad conversationalist" shit.
 
Here's a list of grad students but their advisors are not listed.


Some of them might be tolerable but some of them, big yikes.

"I understand queerness as a textual effect reinforced by and reinforcing global capital, carcerality, tourism, and development. Through contemporary texts, I explore how particular modes of (individualistic, consumer-oriented, and legal) queerness enter the global stage as lucrative markers of progressive modernity--potentially to the detriment of indigenous and alternative modes of being."

This one should unironically step in front of an AC Transit bus.
Oh, that's actually cool that you can sort them by interest, even if some of them are faggots and put twenty areas, but also lol:
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That sounds potentially based, because it'd be a great way to mock them using their own language. But looking at his other stuff, I'm not exactly sure:
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I'm really just shocked that this guy is apparently "queer" and in an English program:
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Pozzed Berekely did a transphobia? [x]
Remember Joe also vaguebooked that this situation was due to someone's "erotic attachment to [his] lack of discipline."
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Also..."driven careerist," sure Jan.

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Translation: Berkeley asked me nicely to tone down being openly creepy. Not allowed to make freshmen read poems about BJs aloud for my pleasure anymore.

Handmaidens reeeeeeeed on my behalf, because I am an ostentatiously distressed male and they are programmed to drop everything to comfort me.
 
Pozzed Berekely did a transphobia? [x]
Remember Joe also vaguebooked that this situation was due to someone's "erotic attachment to [his] lack of discipline."
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Also..."driven careerist," sure Jan.
"and i haven't always felt like the angriest person in the room"

Just the submissive role during sex things.
 
I never heard of this couple until now.

When I was in high school, ca. 1980, there was a married couple who both transitioned, and it got a lot of press at the time. This was an especially interesting couple, because in addition to having had at least one child, the XX person was about 5 feet tall, and the XY person was well over 6 feet tall.
 
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Remember Joe also vaguebooked that this situation was due to someone's "erotic attachment to [his] lack of discipline."
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Now I'm thinking "erotic attachment to lack of discipline" is like ... someone asked him how he can be a woman if he hasn't chopped his dick off yet.

He's doing tarot, y'all! The stars told him it's okay to be a menace.
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Mallory is getting high off the smell of single sentences from her typical kitsch-schtick writing. Stagnant writing lacking any growth, many such cases on her timeline. So it’s definitely high-strung as hell in the Definitely Not Heterosexual Lavery household tonight:
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Between Joe claiming rape about who knows what cock nonsense, while passive aggressive posting tarot cards with secret messages directed at women he’s angry with, & Moe getting high from single sentences as she fails to write a good book, let alone a good paragraph, it’s looking pretty par for course. This was one of many laugh inducing posts from Mallory’s especially egotistical social media posts today.
 
It makes me wonder if a student might've officially lodged a complaint about his course work going way out of hand with his "girl dick" comments and that he's now trying to desperately paint it out as he's the one being sexually harrassed for being a stunning brave trans womxn; and yes, of course there are handmaidens defending him, there always are.

In the long run, it wouldn't surprise me if Berkley is wanting to get rid of him. He might not be as useless as Rhys (he's actually producing work, even if it's mediocre and obsessed with his own transness), but we should never underestimate a lolcow's ability to lolcow in real life.
 
Even though he's barely giving us anything these days, Joe remains my favorite cow. The ajumma jammies. The tard shoes. The absolute confidence. This kind of shit is just... :story:
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This is not an outfit, this is a cry for help. The Ajumma parallel is great. It's giving nursing home, complete with cushioned shoes to avoid falling.

It makes me wonder if a student might've officially lodged a complaint about his course work going way out of hand with his "girl dick" comments and that he's now trying to desperately paint it out as he's the one being sexually harrassed for being a stunning brave trans womxn; and yes, of course there are handmaidens defending him, there always are.
I could see this. Teaching less-than-enthusiastic freshmen in an intro to poetry course that ends up being 90% about handjobs is a recipe for complaints, and it would explain why he is always so eager to teach grad students, who are probably already on board with his shtick. He can write the freshmen off as bumbling homophobes, but if the department actually takes those complaints seriously, that's institutionalized rape, baby!

Mal never, ever bringing up Joe's shit is so funny. What's a transphobia. I want to post about my dogs.
 
I finally finished this goddamn thread now that we're back for the second time. I was an old Jezebel/Groupthink/The Hairpin/The Toast commenter and followed Mal until she trooned out and everyone else also got obsessed with trans issues. (Multiple male Jez/GT commenters also trooned out over time, it'd be hilarious if it wasn't so sad)

I looked up to Mal and Nicole (and even Jia and Lindsay) as having the dream life when I was an impressionable uni student. I wanted to be seen as witty and awkwardly charming and have people want to debate the finer points of disposable pop culture with me.

... But almost everyone from that era is a fucking disaster now. All of them were hiding yawing black holes of emptiness under their thin brittle clever outer shells.

I think the reason so many of us (and I say us because I was one of them, or at least wanted to be one of them) get sucked into troonism is because their whole lives and selves are just performance. They have no experience of being authentic to or knowing themselves, or that that's a thing that's even possible, so performing "gender" doesn't seem (or even feel) much different to them than performing "coolness".

What the fuck happened in millennial culture to create a whole generation of PMC elites so cut off from themselves that this is the reducio ad absurdum end result?

Mal's the embodiment of the classic Something Awful copy pasta "The Goon in the Well"

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I'm pissing in the well now, and gleefully hoping that Musk reverses Joe's ban on Twitter so we can enjoy the fallout of whatever's happening to him in real time.
 
Oh, that's actually cool that you can sort them by interest, even if some of them are faggots and put twenty areas, but also lol:
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That sounds potentially based, because it'd be a great way to mock them using their own language. But looking at his other stuff, I'm not exactly sure:
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I'm really just shocked that this guy is apparently "queer" and in an English program:
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SEXY IN THEORY​

GRACE LAVERY ON GENDER, GENRE, AND FIGHTING TERFS
BY VICKY OSTERWEIL
PHOTOS BY ANGEL AÑAZCO
Grace Lavery lounges on a white sofa in a vivid shirt with tattooed arms

The bright-eyed optimism of 2014’s “the transgender tipping point” — the moment when Time magazine declared trans equality just over the horizon — is now undeniably dead. The ascendent Christo-fascist wing of the American far right is using anti-trans politics as a tool to take control of their party and the state, and Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists (TERFs), especially in the U.K., are using it to drive liberals away from progressive movements by declaring that support for trans people means contempt for cis women.
UC Berkeley professor and writer Grace Lavery has spent years arguing with TERFs in journals, magazines, and on Twitter. As transphobia becomes the cause celebre of American fascism, Lavery’s insights can help inform the future of anti-fascist struggle here in America.
The January release of her raucous, sexy, and theoretically rich trans-memoir/picaresque/queer critique Please Miss: A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Penis saw her traveling on book tour to the U.K., and I caught up with her upon her return stateside. As she cooked dinner in her kitchen in Brooklyn, we got together to talk Please Miss and the role of trans politics in building a future without fascism.
During the book tour, Lavery found to her great pleasure that British TERFs — or as she calls them, the “astro-TERFs” — are much more of a media and online phenomenon in the U.K. than any sort of viable center-left anti-trans movement. But if TERFs are overrepresented on mumsnet and Twitter, in the Guardian and on the BBC, Lavery still wants to figure out how transphobia takes root in these powerful institutions and how to get it out.
“THE BOOK BELIEVES, AND MAYBE EVEN I BELIEVE, THAT IF A SEX CHANGE IS ALSO GENDER TRANSITION, THEN IT IS EVEN MORE PRIMALLY A GENRE TRANSITION.”
The beginning of such an analysis appears in Please Miss, but it’s only one piece of this capacious book, a panoply of genres and literary excursions that create a hilarious and often melancholic tale about Lavery getting sober, getting fucked, and transitioning. Early in the book, in a conversation with her trans-masc husband Danny, Grace remarks that “expositions of trans life as it is lived is sort of the only genre that trans people have historically been allowed to work in.” Danny objects, “‘Well, I’ve not been allowed to work in it.’” The scene resonated with me because it often seems like only memoir or novelization of gender experience gets understood as “trans writing” — yet even so, it’s reserved for femmes. “What I’m trying to do,” Lavery tells me, “is find a way to internalize the critique of first person confessional trans writing while finding something both rehabilitating about disclosure and the possibility that language would be a vehicle for intimacy.”
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Please Miss proposes a connection between the concepts of gender and genre. “The book believes, and maybe even I believe,” she wryly adds, “that if a sex change is also gender transition, then it is even more primally a genre transition. That is to say, it is like walking through one kind of movie and suddenly, one is in a different kind of movie… So, what the book wants to do is try to stage and exhibit and demonstrate and walk through changes in genre.”
While memoir is a kind of tell-all, disclosure-oriented form, Lavery uses her playful approach to genre to conceal and seduce as much as reveal. The use of genre switches — sudden swerves from straightforward narrative to epistolary to queer theory — in Please Miss are elliptical ways of backing off from intimacy or revelation. It’s funny to describe such a sexually explicit, headlong, and uproarious book as a coy thing, but I think there is a lot of reserve and restraint here as well. For example, as Lavery reflects on a difficult experience of learning and failing to have gender-affirming sex, she suddenly shifts from her feelings in the moment to instead describe reaching into a “Hole Foods” bag and finding a new delicacy: finger limes. The next four pages are a lengthy reproduction of the FAQ on the finger limes packaging, which slyly refers to the previous scene even as it conceals her true feelings in the moment.
Of course, the idea of hiding/deception is an implicitly transphobic trope — The Crying Game, the “trap”, etc. — that Lavery engages with throughout the book. When I put the question of coyness to her, Lavery demurs: “There are parts of my life that I want to treat seriously enough not to talk about, and then there are other parts of my life, which I want to treat seriously enough to talk about exclusively in jocular terms. And there are things, especially with sex, where I’m really trying to take it less seriously as a rubric.” The book plays with issues and questions that are traditionally more seriously discussed. “I sometimes think,” she adds, “if everything one knew about sex came from queer theory that was written between 2000 the present, then one would [assume] I think that sex is… like, pure compulsion, quasi-suicidal. So if one is going to try to find a way to resist the imperative to make sex very serious in the practice of queer writing then how is one going to do that?”
Indeed, the central metaphorical image of the book is the clown, and there are a number of parodic trips into other literary genres, including the dick joke. When I ask Lavery how she understands the importance of parody, jokes, and humor in the project and their relation to transition, queerness and sex, she explains that she set out to “critique those masculinist forms of domination through sexual comedy, to try to find feminist practices of laughing about sex, which is why the book has a little offhanded joke about Louis C.K. in the first chapter and then a whole section about Lily, my girlfriend, and the way that she laughs when she orgasms.”
Unsurprisingly, however, TERFs did not get the joke. Lavery has spent a lot of time on the internet fighting them and being harassed by them, and as a trans woman who is not personally interested in engaging with TERFs, I was curious about why she chooses to do so. “People in a comradely way often suggest to me that it’s counterproductive or at least distracting,” she admits. But changing the narrative is important: “There is a real desire on the part of certain liberal British institutions to frame the issue as a fight between feminists and trans people.” Lavery argues that while these institutions are hardly radical, they matter because “the institutional failure of places like the Guardian and the BBC had engendered and intensified the violent legal oppression of trans people in the U.K. and in the U.S.”
“…SHE LAUGHS WHEN SHE ORGASMS.”
And is changing the narrative even possible? “I believed that it would be possible for me to leverage the privilege that I carry in my person as a tenured professor of English.” This idea of using her prestige backfired, however, when she set up a debate with TERF Helen Joyce, which she had planned to hold as part of her book tour. She later withdrew after consulting other trans activists and academics (I agreed withdrawing was the right thing to do.) Ultimately, the deciding factor was that the organization that was going to host the debate had published antisemitic work. “The case was put to me that this was an organization that existed to legitimate and launder far-right views and therefore to cooperate with them, and I think this was a direct quote, ‘it would tie the fortunes at trans civil rights to this particular organization,’” she says.
This made sense, but I still wondered about the wisdom of the event in the first place, and I wasn’t the only one. Although Lavery understands why the mere existence of a debate could appear to cede ground to TERFs, she ultimately believes that “things are getting bad very quickly” and “anyone who has any kind of privilege or security at all, who is in any relation to this question should be grabbing every microphone that’s put in front of them, every camera that is in their general vicinity and attempting to make these arguments. Otherwise, the claim begins to kind of develop that these people are unstoppable, that they’re simply the unconquerable force of history, and I don’t believe that.”
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On that issue we are aligned. I agree with Lavery that the TERFs are “weaker than ever, not just intellectually, but institutionally and organizationally weaker than I thought they were. The gender-critical movement is eminently defeatable.”
Indeed, in this moment of collapsing reproductive rights and trans backlash, it can be hard to see just how desperate, fragile, and weak the reactionary worldview is. As I write this, the New York Times’s newest columnist Pamela Paul has published the latest high-profile TERF nonsense, implying that progressive movements’ support for trans women is actually misogyny, an expression of contempt for cis women comparable to that of murderous incels. The absurdity of her argument suggests a losing rearguard struggle against our advancing liberation. Books like Please Miss remind us that queer struggle can be funny, joyous, and sexy, and sometimes the best response to TERFs is a cackle.
Vicky Osterweil is a writer, editor and agitator based in Philadelphia. She is the author of In Defense of Looting: A Riotous History of Uncivil Action.




Vicky used to be Willie, and is partnered to Sophie Lewis the Communist Abolish the Family writer.
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