Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

[Nointey]

Looking back on things now, it is clear to me that No Dong Jones was behind Lucas and his campaign to deplatform Kiwi Farms. Lucas was just a puppet for Jones to put in front of people and say, "Look how Kiwi Farms harass this poor trans woman that has done so much good for trans kids. We can't let Kiwi Farms continue to harass good people." Good thing that Jones is an idiot as Lucas was the worst person to have be the face and spokesperson for your campaign which is why Jones ended up dropping Lucas. Which is also why Lucas would rather pretend that Kiwi Farms doesn't exist then continue Jones campaign. Jones however won't give up. This freakish looking troon won't stop until every single gender critical site on the internet is scrub and deplatform off the internet. I have never seen a troon so power mad before in my life. Jones is going to learn the hard way that the internet is forever and that he will never be a real woman.

Elliot Thong-Robot Jones doesn't really seem like the type to be some master manipulator that was puppeting Luke Troonwalker, he's more like an online tranny version of Santa Anna. Constantly trying to get his way and be seen as a hero, but failing so badly and being so pathetic that everyone will mostly hate him in the end. But even with Santa Anna, he still had a life, unlike Elliot

 

[Nick Gars]

Even though this Ashley Lake person might be a sex obsessed weirdo, they're actually giving a non-retarded take about this situation and the EFF article. If you look through their comments about this topic (archive), they stomped the shit out of thwomp-jawed Elliot and his cadre of mad trannies by showing just how the use of infrastructure to censor your enemies is very bad for everyone, even if it gets you the results you want in the short-term.

They may be a sex freak, but good on them for being intelligent enough to see the writing on the way and call it out. Shame it falls on deaf ears though.

"I don't like the site, I may like that it's gone, but by getting rid of it you are opening the flood gates for this same shit to inevitably be used on you!"

"NUHUH!" *sticks fingers in ears* "NANANANANANANANANA"

There's a reason I believe NPC Theory isn't just a fuckin' meme....

 

[repentance]

Looking back on things now, it is clear to me that No Dong Jones was behind Lucas and his campaign to deplatform Kiwi Farms.

It wasn't just LFJ. Vordrak has been hassling Rob Tyree of FiberHub, using the exact same tactics he used against KF years ago.

 

[TitusOvid]

Does this freak do anything but destroy - it ended its family line and now is hellbent on taking down kiwifarms because ruining things is all it knows how to do.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

I still can't get over this tranny eunuch faggot talking about a "consent accident," as if "oh alleged sexual assault, NBD, let's just rebrand that, maybe the legal system won't notice." Stupid asshole. What's next, a "strangulation error"? An "exsanguination crisis"? How about a good old-fashioned "existence malfunction"?

Stupid castrato asshole. I hope his eyes *do* rot out of his head. Elliot Dong-Gone should be held up for future generations as an example and a warning to others of why you don't troon out and have your junk chopped off, because your body will literally start dissolving itself.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

Looking back on things now, it is clear to me that No Dong Jones was behind Lucas and his campaign to deplatform Kiwi Farms. Lucas was just a puppet for Jones to put in front of people and say, "Look how Kiwi Farms harass this poor trans woman that has done so much good for trans kids. We can't let Kiwi Farms continue to harass good people." Good thing that Jones is an idiot as Lucas was the worst person to have be the face and spokesperson for your campaign which is why Jones ended up dropping Lucas. Which is also why Lucas would rather pretend that Kiwi Farms doesn't exist then continue Jones campaign. Jones however won't give up. This freakish looking troon won't stop until every single gender critical site on the internet is scrubbed and deplatformed off the internet. I have never seen a troon so power mad before in my life. Jones is going to learn the hard way that the internet is forever and that he will never be a real woman.

i dont think this is the case honestly. i think keffals started everything and jones is just far more insane than keffals and seemingly very power hungry. keffals just wants attention but at the end of the day he knows he cant get rid of the farms or any other place. its why he never went after doxbin or 4chan or any other place and why he never really did anything about jim even after he got unbanned from twitter. he always knew from the start his campaign was doomed to fail. he just wanted the money and attention from it.

jones however is different. he thinks he can control everything its not so much about getting attention and fame but more so about control. he wants be able to swing his imaginary dick around and strike fear into anyone who encounters him or even does so much as even look at a picture of him and his weirdly cube shaped head. i think the key to getting him to fuck off is simple enough however people just need to stand up for themselves. thats all it takes all these isps and various other companies need to just stand up for themselves and that would be the end of the problem. because at the end of the day all he can do is complain and abuse his connections. but what happens when those connections run out? what happens when all his yelling hits a wall? dude has nothing and i would not be surprised if the further he pushes the more people start speaking out against him. because at the end of the day everyone knows what happens if jones or anyone else manages to purge this place forever. they are just too afraid to say it outloud.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

The reaction to the EFF pointing out 'hey, this is a really terrible precedent to set, are we sure we wanna do this?' is quite educational.

I agree legal action is extremely unlikely for reasons posted, but Null might want to see if the EFF wants to talk.

 

[DavidS877]

The reaction to the EFF pointing out 'hey, this is a really terrible precedent to set, are we sure we wanna do this?' is quite educational.

I agree legal action is extremely unlikely for reasons posted, but Null might want to see if the EFF wants to talk.

He said on MATI the other day that he would be contacting them.

 

[Load Bearing Drywall]

He said on MATI the other day that he would be contacting them.

FIRE ( https://www.thefire.org/ ) might also be a good idea.

 

[AnOminous]

Sorry if this got posted some time before the site went down but someone on LCF found this extract from his blog where he is talking about the screaming agony of dripping blood while dilating endlessly. The description is hellish.

Imagine cutting your dick and balls off, an irrevocable decision, to end up with a nonfunctional hatchet wound you have to torture yourself for hours every day just to keep open. And then you end up looking like a freak show anyway.

And this evil freak wants to trick kids into doing this, or as it's normally called, grooming. Fucking demon.

From this post: https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/1662925.html#1685498 (archive).

I think it's a good insight into the villain origin story of this fucked up dude.

 

[Oxous]

Sorry if this got posted some time before the site went down but someone on LCF found this extract from his blog where he is talking about the screaming agony of dripping blood while dilating endlessly. The description is hellish.

Imagine cutting your dick and balls off, an irrevocable decision, to end up with a nonfunctional hatchet wound you have to torture yourself for hours every day just to keep open. And then you end up looking like a freak show anyway.
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And this evil freak wants to trick kids into doing this, or as it's normally called, grooming. Fucking demon.

From this post: https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/1662925.html#1685498 (archive).

I think it's a good insight into the villain origin story of this fucked up dude.

Once Elliot goes blind he's definitely going to lose his dilator on accident, and if he's anything like Kevin Gibes all it takes is one trivial excuse to give up on dilating altogether. The fact he dilates anyways is a testament to the stubbornness of man.

 

[repentance]

The reaction to the EFF pointing out 'hey, this is a really terrible precedent to set, are we sure we wanna do this?' is quite educational.

I agree legal action is extremely unlikely for reasons posted, but Null might want to see if the EFF wants to talk.

Having taken a position on the issue, I would be surprised if EFF didn't at least file an amicus brief in cases hinging on the issue.

It's worth keeping in mind that the 5th Circuit ruling regarding platforms policing content also brings into play the idea that ISPs effectively function as common carriers now, just as telcos did before them.

 

[Trianon]

FIRE ( https://www.thefire.org/ ) might also be a good idea.

Maybe, but they seem laser-focused on government censorship only, so KF seems like exactly the kind of thing they'd sidestep. They are better than most other free speech orgs, but they do have weird takes sometimes.

Been watching the LFJ meltdowns on twitter. Just a really odious person. I'm so glad he tried to argue with this Ashley person, because I saw their thread yesterday and thought it was a clean hit from the left. This isn't a "last resort," LFJ, it's what you've been itching to do the whole time. You did not exhaust all other options because you knew you would rightly be laughed out of court. Your skulking is not a brave last stand against a powerful enemy but a cowardly, pathetic veneer of weaponized victimhood.

Once again reminded of strikethrough, the Livejournal equivalent of this, where all fanfiction got nuked for being gay and involving minors, all because some random third party complained. It launched Archive of Our Own singlehandedly just so they had an independent space to post furry porn. When people start getting antsy about how the site is run and what vile shit they let up there, they rightly tell those people to fuck off. But no one has gone after their ISPs yet.

Sex workers have a more immediate understanding of how the game is played and how it escalates. And it never escalates against just one target.

Rackets isn't a part of the Federal bar. Or any of the States where this could be tried (like Wyoming or Florida) I doubt he could practice in any of the particular jurisdictions this case would involve. Beyond that though, any lawsuit involving the kiwi farms would be complex and heavily involved. Involving international and interstate service, discovery, and so on. Along with a whole host of pretrial bullshitting over just where the case should be heard in the first place. Even if an Attorney WAS willing to take it, they would demand a 1 million dollar retainer. Just to start. Because that's how much it would realistically cost to just get to trial. Anyone here got that sort of cash in their couch cushions? I doubt Null does. He's having trouble buying servers for a few thousand dollars.

Otherwise, they would need to take it on contingency. And there is no way Liz Fong Jones and Keffals have a million dollars that could be seized by an interested attorney. Which means the interest for the Lawyer has to not be monetary recovery but an issue case.

Ron Coleman is a name I would look into. Rekeita has mentioned him before, an incredible First Amendment lawyer. He is invested enough in "issues" that I could see it.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

I actually thought about this dude while we were down. I wondered what he was doing with himself, not enough to actually check but still I thought about it for a little bit. I felt silly checking once a day to see if Null had an update for when it'd be back but this dude really had to be mad he couldn't refresh his fancy port test constantly.

Having taken a position on the issue, I would be surprised if EFF didn't at least file an amicus brief in cases hinging on the issue.

It's worth keeping in mind that the 5th Circuit ruling regarding platforms policing content also brings into play the idea that ISPs effectively function as common carriers now, just as telcos did before them.

The Fifth Circuit's ruling is not going to last let alone expand outside it, basically all of it is wrong legally. The EFF is on NetChoice's side, not Texas/Florida/etc.

Maybe, but they seem laser-focused on government censorship only, so KF seems like exactly the kind of thing they'd sidestep. They are better than most other free speech orgs, but they do have weird takes sometimes.

That's because FIRE can only sue the government. Specific members of FIRE can go farther, I think one on Twitter actually did indicate some support for websites going through what the Kiwi Farms is, but the main organization is only about focusing on legal targets. This is an old problem with these advocacy groups, the ACLU went through it for a long time and it was them finally deciding to step outside the narrow legal focus that has driven them into complete useless shit on free speech. It helps to keep the group focused and successful when they can say to members "okay, I agree, but what can we tangibly do about it?"

Sure, it would cost FIRE little to support the Kiwi Farms on principle, but that would create a demand for them to do it again and again and again for everyone's pet issues. It's not a large organization and that will distract them from directing their resources to battles they can do something about like providing legal counsel for people that can't afford it and getting court rulings that help everyone. As a Kiwi Farms user I would enjoy them (and others) supporting us but I do not begrudge them for not investigating every possible subject that comes across their desk or Twitter feed.

That said, FIRE probably would listen to Null and be sympathetic but I would expect them to direct him to the EFF which is better positioned for what Null needs. Especially since the EFF has tech industry lawyers, FIRE's are more specifically First Amendment ones. There's a lot of overlap of issues there but someone in one area won't know the nuances and players as well as one in the other.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I think it's a good insight into the villain origin story of this fucked up dude.

I'd not seen this before. Disgusting doesn't begin to cover it.

The terven kiwis would call the whole thing very male, and to be honest, I'd have to agree with them. It see-saws between obsession over size and performance of the alleged genitals and self-disgust for failing to live up to an idealised, masculine standard of behaviour (calling himself a coward for failing to overcome a pan threshold). It's just another way of knowing that these are, have been, and always will be men.

I'm also still trying to work out why anyone thinks Elliot is anything other than a mediocre skutworker. I've worked with plenty of people like him in the industry, who think they're hot shit because they can copypaste k8s configs with some tweaks, or use basic tools to discover public information, but they have no fundamental understanding the underlying reality of the infrastructure. It's magic that will just always be there to do their bidding. This is why he thinks there's no issue with just kicking out the foundations that hold up the internet in order to get what he wants: he thinks it won't matter.

I've looked at his github. The few repos that aren't unedited forks are trivial, mostly code stitching exercises, or scripts to encapsulate a few repetitive commands. It's clear his ego vastly outpaces his ability, which he compensates for by engaging in (mostly futile) activism at every place he's worked. He is, simply put, a faker.

 

[AnOminous]

Having taken a position on the issue, I would be surprised if EFF didn't at least file an amicus brief in cases hinging on the issue.

It's worth keeping in mind that the 5th Circuit ruling regarding platforms policing content also brings into play the idea that ISPs effectively function as common carriers now, just as telcos did before them.

Like most such organizations, though, it is more common to do that (or actually represent someone) in potentially precedent-setting appellate cases, rather than representing parties at trial. So while the public statement of support based on general principle is nice, it does not necessarily translate into action any time soon.

EFF has intervened at the trial stage multiple times though, and even when they haven't directly, have often at least been useful in putting people in touch with sympathetic (and more importantly qualified) counsel behind the scenes.

 

[frap]

I'd not seen this before. Disgusting doesn't begin to cover it.

The terven kiwis would call the whole thing very male, and to be honest, I'd have to agree with them. It see-saws between obsession over size and performance of the alleged genitals and self-disgust for failing to live up to an idealised, masculine standard of behaviour (calling himself a coward for failing to overcome a pan threshold). It's just another way of knowing that these are, have been, and always will be men.

It's so telling how obsessed they all are over depth. Depth is the new length for these males. Does any woman know what their 'depth' is? I sure don't. Wouldn't even cross my mind to check.

In fact, I don't even think it could be accurately checked. Effective depth changes through the month because the cervix moves with the menstrual cycle and it's probably affected by arousal on top of that. I think if a woman was going to be self-conscious about anything in the same ballpark it would be tightness/wetness, not depth.

 

[F13 Key]

I've looked at his github. The few repos that aren't unedited forks are trivial, mostly code stitching exercises, or scripts to encapsulate a few repetitive commands. It's clear his ego vastly outpaces his ability, which he compensates for by engaging in (mostly futile) activism at every place he's worked. He is, simply put, a faker.

One of the things I notice the most about him is how often he mentions his finances.

He mentions his income, or his proverbial money vault he could tap into, nearly daily. People who do this in my experience are people who are trying to compensate for something, or have very low self confidence and feel like they have to flaunt their money as a way to keep people interested in them. Amongst troons, a lot are mentally unbalanced, depressed and vulnerable because they're poor and have no family connections, and those sorts of people are easily influenced and preyed upon by wealthy ones who have high end jobs in IT.

Way to admit to wasting six years of your life trying to take down a single website that didn't even care enough about you to mock you until about a month and a half ago.

Talks he's paid for, I'm sure. Too bad "Liz Fong-Jones, slayer of Kiwi Farms" won't get to be how he's remembered, since keffals ended up getting all the credit after getting swatted and getting all that sweet media attention that Liz was so desperately hungry for. Too cowardly to do a Jussie Smollett on himself I guess.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I think if a woman was going to be self-conscious about anything in the same ballpark it would be tightness/wetness, not depth.

I asked my wife. She said the only thing she'd actively worry about down there is smell, which isn't an issue because, unlike Elliot, she knows how to bathe.

He mentions his income, or his proverbial money vault he could tap into, nearly daily. People who do this in my experience are people who are trying to compensate for something, or have very low self confidence and feel like they have to flaunt their money as a way to keep people interested in them.

I'm quite certain he got a golden parachute out of Google when he was ushered out the door (the story behind that has to be interesting). I'm also certain that a lot of what he's got is theoretical wealth in stock, either that either hasn't vested, or that would immediately lose most of its nominal value if he tried to cash in. Either way, what he claims to have, and what he actually can afford, are very different beasties. He's also showing the behaviour I tend to associate with people who have a large lump of savings, but don't have the income to replenish it if they spend.

Honeycomb isn't profitable yet, so far as I can see, and has only maintained solvency through repeated rounds of investor funding. They've got at least 100 employees (likely more, because these startup companies always overemploy, to make up for staff inefficiencies, appear larger to investors, or because of nepotism networks). There is no way in hell they're able to pay him more than a mid five figures-equivalent, unless they're willing to burn serious cash to indulge the troon's incompetence.

I notice he's taking a stipend from the "coworker solidarity fund", which pays people to be "organise" in their workplace. Another attempt to compensate for his lack of actual talent.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I just don't understand what's going on in Dong-Gone's skull.

Both his eyes are rotting out for a start.