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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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That was true 75 years ago. Today, however, if it comes to a war between Russia/China and the US, Russia and China will out produce the US and its allies by an order of magnitude.

Also, Ukraine is losing no matter what the fantasy fiction writers here are saying.
It's the Ukrainians setting up military facilities in schools and civilian buildings using them as a shield.
Don't think so? Take a look at the Azov Battalion military manual or go and see the footage of the Ukrainian/Greek community refugees and see what they're saying. (They've already returned to Greece so, go right and question their bias)

As for Kyiv, Russian missile and drone strikes have crippled their energy infrastructure. But, it's ok because Ukrainian priminister says "...we shot down 44 of more than 50 missiles...". The operative words here are 'more than 50' considering 18 targets were confirmed hit how many is 'more'?

You can all join Trudeau in fellating Zelensky on national TV if you think the Ukraine or its supporters stand a chance at winning.
I could go on about how Russia is failing to accomplish every strategic goal they have claimed, losing ground in an open conventional war, and utterly embarrassing themselves militarily; but you are such a fucking rock bottom-IQ retard with the brain capacity to make even an inbred sunfish scoff in disgust that I won't even waste the time.

Instead I'll just call you a faggot and tell you to kill yourself.
Kill yourself, Faggot.
 
That was true 75 years ago. Today, however, if it comes to a war between Russia/China and the US, Russia and China will out produce the US and its allies by an order of magnitude.
Right. We have confirmed footage of the Russians yanking T-62's out of mothballs so they can be reequipped with shitty 2nd gen at best electronics so they can be shipped off to the front line to get exploded by 15 year old Javelin rockets, the Russian Air Force still hasn't managed to eliminate the Ukrainian one, Russia has no carriers (if the Moskva was that much of a disaster let's not pretend the Kusnetsov is any better), China has two that barely work, but the two of them are going to be able to take down the world's biggest air force (USAF) second biggest air force (USN), world's largest carrier navy (USN), and the world's second-largest carrier Navy (USMC) by out-producing them in case of world war 3. The war will be over the minute a couple B-2's nail Chelyabinsk with Russian SAM's going haywire, shitting themselves, and deciding to race the American ordnance to the factories as a result of poor maintenance.
 
For Ukraine the town have been strategically useful as one massive tarbaby. Of which only guesses can be made as to why the Russians choose that town.
It used to be useful as based on former Russian holdings, taking it might have made a large part of the Ukrainian line untenable. The push now against it is bizarre, either Putin wants to kill off the convicts serving with Wagner or some mental freeze. Likely, keeping the war going and hitting heat and power stations plus water purification, blockading food / grain deliveries, along with gay nuke threats is his strategy of attrition.
 
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Yet all the Vatniks and Russiaboos seem to think Bakhmut is somehow the keystone that will cause the Ukrainian Army to collapse.

Bakhmut is going to fall anyday now for the last three months, and its all part of the plan; but every day the Ukrainian Army hasn't captured Kherson yet is ANOTHER failed offensive!

Let's be fair.
Taking Bakhmut would allow Russia to sever Ukraine's Central Front North-South supply lines, and provide Russia a staging ground that could be used to attack the other Ukrainian positions in Luhansk & pressure Ukraine in Donetsk; if you are going to evict Ukraine from those regions, you need to take Bakhmut.
Bakhmut is strategically important, and it is also symbolically important as it shows you are forcing the Ukrainazis from the totally real and legitimately voted into existance LPR.

HOWEVER
The fact its a valuable target in no way justifies that Russia continues to commit and meatgrinder military assets, or the level of assets assigned to take it at this stage.
If we want to live in a pretend world where Russia takes Bakhmut and secures it such that Ukraine is simply unable to mount a force retake it or threaten it, and it operates as a viable staging area... given recent set backs Russia will need to not merely retake territory from Ukraine's counter offensive but would need to take additional territory to secure a rail link to Russia, which is where its value would come from. And even then, it'll be some hard fighting to dislodge Ukraine from their positions; taking Bakhmut won't magically make those hold-outs collapse, it'll just make taking them on easier.

If Russia had been in position to take Bakhmut even 4 months ago, that'd have been different than trying to take it today.
Its like Russia finally securing Donetsk Airport: Ok, congratulations you've got the airport. But in order you use it, you're going to need to push the Ukrainian forces back at least another 5km or so, and that's before you think about all the repair work you'd need to do to get it operating again.

Additionally, those assets should have been retasked to stop the northern push, which would have been more strategically important.

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It used to be useful as based on former Russian holdings, taking it might have made a large part of the Ukrainian line untenable. The push now against it is bizarre, either Putin wants to kill off the convicts serving with Wagner or some mental freeze. Likely, keeping the war going and hitting heat and powerr stations plus water purification, blockading food deliveries, along with gay nuke threats is his strategy of attrition.

Exactly this.
The speculation I've heard is that Wagner was assigned the task of Bakhmut when the Russian offensive started to stall out, so they are taking it because they get a big payout if they take it.
Prigozhin is also trying to show that Wagner can do better then the regular military. I've heard speculation he's trying to set himself up as Putin's successor, or just wanting to get billions in military contracts afterwards.

In other news, something else that happened while we were down that no one else mentioned is that almost all of Russia's gains in the Bakhmut direction from over the last 3 months were lost in like 24 hours. Good times.

Source?
 
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Here you go:

I'm not seeing any third party confirmation, which could just be lag for verification. Regardless, Bakhmut has at the very least bogged down which by itself wouldn't mean much, but that was one of the few bright spots on the Russian side of things.

As @Fanatical Pragmatist said
Bakhmut is going to fall anyday now for the last three months, and its all part of the plan; but every day the Ukrainian Army hasn't captured Kherson yet is ANOTHER failed offensive!

The virgin unable to take a major city vs the chad choosing not to take over a mid-sized village.
 
That was true 75 years ago. Today, however, if it comes to a war between Russia/China and the US, Russia and China will out produce the US and its allies by an order of magnitude.

Also, Ukraine is losing no matter what the fantasy fiction writers here are saying.
It's the Ukrainians setting up military facilities in schools and civilian buildings using them as a shield.
Don't think so? Take a look at the Azov Battalion military manual or go and see the footage of the Ukrainian/Greek community refugees and see what they're saying. (They've already returned to Greece so, go right and question their bias)

As for Kyiv, Russian missile and drone strikes have crippled their energy infrastructure. But, it's ok because Ukrainian priminister says "...we shot down 44 of more than 50 missiles...". The operative words here are 'more than 50' considering 18 targets were confirmed hit how many is 'more'?

You can all join Trudeau in fellating Zelensky on national TV if you think the Ukraine or its supporters stand a chance at winning.
I don't understand how you or any of the other Russia strong dumdums are under the assumption that Russia is totally in control of the situation as they fail to maintain sufficient stocks of equipment to issue their military when it comes to small arms, tanks or communication equipment. Is there some back up military Russia is keeping manned with professionally trained soldiers and equipped with modern hardware just being kept in reserve for a "real" conflict? Would you or the other yokels in the other thread accept a similar performance from the United States if they stalled invading Mexico or Canada with similar losses and delays?

Also your point about military forces (from both sides) occupying schools is dumb and gay. Schools aren't open and classes are being taught online. The Russians and Ukranians have both occupied school facilities, with some chechen faggots being killed in one recently by an artillery stike. Last, can you provide some photos of this "Azov manual"? I'm unaware of it.
 
You can all join Trudeau in fellating Zelensky on national TV if you think the Ukraine or its supporters stand a chance at winning.
Nigger, after everything we've seen throughout the last ~8 months, even you would have to admit that they at the very least have a chance.
If they didn't, what was supposed to be an operation lasting few weeks at most wouldn't have turned into a war nearing one year mark.
 
I could go on about how Russia is failing to accomplish every strategic goal they have claimed, losing ground in an open conventional war, and utterly embarrassing themselves militarily; but you are such a fucking rock bottom-IQ retard with the brain capacity to make even an inbred sunfish scoff in disgust that I won't even waste the time.

Instead I'll just call you a faggot and tell you to kill yourself.
Kill yourself, Faggot.

100 million sperm and you were the winner.....although it is a long swim from the large intestine for a 9 month joke so.....we'll done, I guess. Originally, you were only supposed to be a blowjob looks like your mom and her brother messed up there.... You're the reason abortion is a good idea, an un-informed idiot having a retard fit because someone disagrees with your world view. A world view that doesn't go beyond your own ass because that's where your bald headed, bucktoothed down syndrome face is stuck. Give your prostate a flick with your tongue while you're there, no one else will.
I'd tell you to kill your own self but then the world would lose something to laugh at.

Right. We have confirmed footage of the Russians yanking T-62's out of mothballs so they can be reequipped with shitty 2nd gen at best electronics so they can be shipped off to the front line to get exploded by 15 year old Javelin rockets, the Russian Air Force still hasn't managed to eliminate the Ukrainian one, Russia has no carriers (if the Moskva was that much of a disaster let's not pretend youretsov is any better), China has two that barely work, but the two of them are going to be able to take down the world's biggest air force (USAF) second biggest air force (USN), world's largest carrier navy (USN), and the world's second-largest carrier Navy (USMC) by out-producing them in case of world war 3. The war will be over the minute a couple B-2's nail Chelyabinsk with Russian SAM's going haywire, shitting themselves, and deciding to race the American ordnance to the factories as a result of poor maintenance.

Another fanfic.... what's more likely to happen is that the commander of your armed forces will make sure those equality quotas are met and everyone of them gets a turn for their participation award. Not to mention he'll also be busy eliminating the "white rage" and "white privilege".

US doesn't have the numbers and they don't have the oil. If you think that the Russian and Chinese tech is so far behind, then why are your armed forces hiding behind a proxy war in the Ukraine?

12 HIMARs were enough to stagnate the Russian advance and cause the Kharkiv front line to collapse.

Except it hasn't collapsed. Infact, what used to be battalion strength offensives by the Ukranians have fallen to company size assaults in nearly every theatre because they can't break Russian defences.
 
Except it hasn't collapsed. Infact, what used to be battalion strength offensives by the Ukranians have fallen to company size assaults in nearly every theatre because they can't break Russian defences.
Can't tell if that's cope, trolling or genuine schizophrenia but this gif always makes me laugh.
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Can't tell if that's cope, trolling or genuine schizophrenia but this gif always makes me laugh.
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It was a goodwill gesture

The Russians didn't really want it (despite Kharkiv being in every faggot novorussia fantasy map)

It's a feint and the super high tech Russian army from call of duty will zip in and recapture it, then invade Berlin (all those captured T-80U/BV/BVMs were blocking up logistics for the new T-14s so the Ukrops fell for the blunder of capturing them. RUSSIA WINS AGAIN)

Sergei forgot the keys to his T-62 and needed to go back to Russia with his buddies to find them. He'll be back, promise.
 
We know that a coup happened in 2014. Some people call it a "totally organic not at all influenced by CIA color revolution", but the fact that the elected government was undemocratically ousted is not in dispute. There is also no dispute that the Ukraine constitution was changed shortly thereafter, and that it was changed in a manner that guaranteed direct conflict with Russia. There is also no dispute that the US has been itching for another proxy war with Russia for years, and there is no dispute that the Biden family has had financial interest in Ukraine since he was Vice President (hence the Hunter Biden laptop being such a story).

So the only question is who financed it and pushed it along. You're denying any evidence of outside interference or funding, but you decline to provide any sources as to why everything was "totes organic".
Then quote some specific evidence. I'm not even denying that Western agencies could potentially have influenced events, but you just assert that since the pro-Western faction won, it must have been a Western op. That ignores the very strong Russian influence and their ability to intervene during the unrest. Russia was unable to save Yanukovych but still managed to annex Crimea with minimal resistance and set up two states in the Donbas. As the war has shown, if the Donbas states had managed to advance further, there would have been many willing collaborators. Even if Euromaidan was a Western op with no organic support, the Russians are just angry that they lost the round. I don't believe that you actually care about the democratic process. I haven't seen you call out the 2022 referenda or the votes on 'independence' in the Donbas and Crimea in 2014. Had the Russian invasion been successful, the democratically elected government of Ukraine would certainly also have been overthrown.

I'm no fan of the Bidens, but even if they received hundreds of millions in bribes, it wouldn't change my opinion about the war. I have seen some people call it 'cultural narcissism' when commentators in the West try to make the war about their domestic issues and this is a pretty funny example.
 
100 million sperm and you were the winner.....although it is a long swim from the large intestine for a 9 month joke so.....we'll done, I guess. Originally, you were only supposed to be a blowjob looks like your mom and her brother messed up there.... You're the reason abortion is a good idea, an un-informed idiot having a retard fit because someone disagrees with your world view. A world view that doesn't go beyond your own ass because that's where your bald headed, bucktoothed down syndrome face is stuck. Give your prostate a flick with your tongue while you're there, no one else will.
I'd tell you to kill your own self but then the world would lose something to laugh at.



Another fanfic.... what's more likely to happen is that the commander of your armed forces will make sure those equality quotas are met and everyone of them gets a turn for their participation award. Not to mention he'll also be busy eliminating the "white rage" and "white privilege".

US doesn't have the numbers and they don't have the oil. If you think that the Russian and Chinese tech is so far behind, then why are your armed forces hiding behind a proxy war in the Ukraine?



Except it hasn't collapsed. Infact, what used to be battalion strength offensives by the Ukranians have fallen to company size assaults in nearly every theatre because they can't break Russian defences.
Are you a fucking meme man? Where the fuckis Russia even advancing except to run away???
 
This isn't even to mention they'd have to occupy a nation that utterly hates them, and we all know how that ends up going.
I think the idea is that Russia is strong, manly, and traditional enough to do the "your entire extended family and then you last" massacres needed to suppress willingness to risk being found out as a partisan, or as insufficiently enthusiastic in support of the new regime. This makes them the good guys and people that you should support, by the way.
 
We know that a coup happened in 2014. Some people call it a "totally organic not at all influenced by CIA color revolution", but the fact that the elected government was undemocratically ousted is not in dispute.
Ousted by the very people of Ukraine, because they were mad that their elected officials would rather be Kremlin puppets than serve their people. So much for "undemocratic".

There is also no dispute that the Ukraine constitution was changed shortly thereafter, and that it was changed in a manner that guaranteed direct conflict with Russia.
And yet most of the Ukraine populace supports the new regime and not the old one. Go figure.

There is also no dispute that the US has been itching for another proxy war with Russia for years, and there is no dispute that the Biden family has had financial interest in Ukraine since he was Vice President (hence the Hunter Biden laptop being such a story).
Again, they only wanted to join the US/NATO side because Russia was so unpopular in Ukraine. America wouldn't have so many friends there if the people weren't so staunchly anti-Russian.

So the only question is who financed it and pushed it along. You're denying any evidence of outside interference or funding, but you decline to provide any sources as to why everything was "totes organic".
You're also ignoring the on-the-ground popular support for this supposed "coup". Unless the American-backed Nazis were so powerful they could threaten 99% of the Ukrainian populace to go along with it, I highly doubt it. The so-called "Nazis" you bitch about are a tiny fraction of the actual Ukrainian army and populace that it's laughable. Especially when a Jew ran for president and won control of the country through popular support.

Then again, I suppose Vatniks are the kind of morons who believe the Jews and Nazis were pals all along and they only wanted to destroy GLORIOUS MOTHER RUSSIA together.
 
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