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moocow said:
Really it's just bait-and-switch. Girl signs a contract for a regular shoot, but discovers they're filming a "Facial Abuse" scene. She says "no" but they either offer her drugs to get through it, offer to double her fee, or just pressure her to continue anyway knowing she's likely to cave into the pressure since she's surrounded by strangers and more afraid of saying "no" than of whatever abuse they have planned.

I honestly doubt this happens nearly as much as the industry's reputation suggests; much as "sex workers" try to come across as perfectly healthy, normal people, the fact is it's a very rare thing for a "top-tier" porn actress to be anything near mentally balanced and healthy and I sincerely doubt it takes much "pressure" of any kind to get them to do increasingly extreme stuff as their careers progress. Do drugs & alcohol help spread legs (and other things) on-set? Sure. But these women know that, and they go anyway... can't exactly act too surprised when it goes down exactly as everything expects it will.
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Those cases are extreme outliers and the book gets thrown at them whenever they do happen. Most of the situations today are girls regretting that they had sex for money on camera. These girls are the type to fuck their coke dealer, fuck their landlord to skip out on paying rent, etc. but those are all private matters. Porn is public and they get a boyfriend who is pissed off that their girlfriend is a whore and his friends can fap to her getting fucked in the ass by a nigger; it’s easy for her to say that she was forced into it versus wanting extra cash to buy a designer bag. It’s like someone getting their first credit card, maxing it out, and now the bill is due and they can’t afford the minimum payment. You feel some sympathy for someone in that situation but it was entirely of their own making.

This applies primarily to America as there were stories a few years ago where Legal Porno was pulling some shit but those Eastern European sites have been on a deep decline. Due to more nationalistic tendencies, the girls are less inclined to whore themselves out in places like Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, etc. than they did 10-30 years ago.
 
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NeoGAF Lurker said:
You feel some sympathy for someone in that situation but it was entirely of their own making.
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I don't. Not anymore. Ever since #metoo I've completely abandoned the "believe all women" nonsense and, frustrating as it must be for (rare) legitimate victims, I don't believe an allegation regarding sexual abuse without conclusive proof (or admission by the alleged abuser, though even that is suspect these days since the social pressure to apologize and beg forgiveness for things you haven't even done just to make the drama stop is immense).

If there's no evidence of coercion, then I can safely assume nobody held a gun to her head to make her perform in a scene. All these self-proclaimed victims made the choice to walk into the situation, go to the shoot, step onto the set, shoot a seductive smile to their mate-to-be, spread their cheeks and start sucking.

You're right that post-sex regret is what motivates an overwhelming majority of abuse claims. It's not even a "grrrr women bad" thing -- it's just a specific demographic of people who've learned how to escape responsibility for nasty behavior and they do it at every opportunity. They're just working a grift. They're still shit human beings for doing it and I find nothing admirable in it, but I can't deny that it often works and there's no real consequences right now for trying even if it fails.
 
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NeoGAF Lurker said:
it’s easy for her to say that she was forced into it versus wanting extra cash to buy a designer bag. It’s like someone getting their first credit card, maxing it out, and now the bill is due and they can’t afford the minimum payment. You feel some sympathy for someone in that situation but it was entirely of their own making.
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Oldest trick in the book. Women absolutely loathe being held accountable for the shitty life choices they make. Sadly society is more than happy to play along with that so it works almost all the time.

The girlsdoporn case is a great example. Every one of those women knew they where being recorded and filmed yet they all acted shocked when surprise surprise their scenes ended up on the internet.
 
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74164978231 said:
Oldest trick in the book. Women absolutely loathe being held accountable for the shitty life choices they make. Sadly society is more than happy to play along with that so it works almost all the time.

The girlsdoporn case is a great example. Every one of those women knew they where being recorded and filmed yet they all acted shocked when surprise surprise their scenes ended up on the internet.
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I’m actually surprised this Reddit is still around but there’s a whole subreddit that is full of examples of that kind of mindset: https://www.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/
 
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Mizafuginmike said:
Yeah, that's called "the money shot.
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This is what I'm talking about Screenshot_20221022-162520.png
That's fucking beat acne.
 
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Gravityqueen4life said:
wait, South Korea porn scene is that huge? where can one find a good site for South Korea porn? its for research.
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Korean Porn can be found all over the normal internet. You just probably didn't realize it was Korean. If the video starts with a blank screen with a red circle on a white background, and some other random symbols on the bottom, that's Korean porn (normally I'd link to an example from xvideos but I don't want to link to a porn site directly if I don't have to). Admittedly, it can be hard to tell because some Korean porn features Japanese actresses Another way to tell Korean porn from porn from other Asian countries is that Koreans are actually far more anal about showing genitalia than even the Japanese, to the point where even Japan's censored porn, with the pixelated genitalia, would be illegal to produce there. All of Korea's porn is basically shot like those softcore porno films you used to see on Cinemax and HBO, with genitalia carefully covered up and avoided, and the area around that part of the body blurred out, not just pixelated.

Another way to get your Korean porn fix is just to watch compilations of sex scenes from actual Korean movies, many of which are also found on porn sites. The sex scenes in these films can get really raunchy, probably far exceeding what you could do in an R-rated movie in some cases. Despite their lack of porn, Korean films can approach softcore in their numerous sex scenes.

NeoGAF Lurker said:
Those cases are extreme outliers and the book gets thrown at them whenever they do happen.
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As I said, there have been recent high profile cases, which is why its become more of an issue now.
 
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The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
Korean Porn can be found all over the normal internet. You just probably didn't realize it was Korean. If the video starts with a blank screen with a red circle on a white background, and some other random symbols on the bottom, that's Korean porn (normally I'd link to an example from xvideos but I don't want to link to a porn site directly if I don't have to). Admittedly, it can be hard to tell because some Korean porn features Japanese actresses Another way to tell Korean porn from porn from other Asian countries is that Koreans are actually far more anal about showing genitalia than even the Japanese, to the point where even Japan's censored porn, with the pixelated genitalia, would be illegal to produce there. All of Korea's porn is basically shot like those softcore porno films you used to see on Cinemax and HBO, with genitalia carefully covered up and avoided, and the area around that part of the body blurred out, not just pixelated.

Another way to get your Korean porn fix is just to watch compilations of sex scenes from actual Korean movies, many of which are also found on porn sites. The sex scenes in these films can get really raunchy, probably far exceeding what you could do in an R-rated movie in some cases. Despite their lack of porn, Korean films can approach softcore in their numerous sex scenes.


As I said, there have been recent high profile cases, which is why its become more of an issue now.
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Since the production of porn is illegal in Korea from what I know, I'm guessing a lot of it is run by the Korean equivalent of the Yakuza or something? I always assumed America was the leader when it came to porn production.
 
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Exterminatus said:
Since the production of porn is illegal in Korea from what I know, I'm guessing a lot of it is run by the Korean equivalent of the Yakuza or something? I always assumed America was the leader when it came to porn production.
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They just avoid showing genitalia so its, strictly speaking, not porn, under Korean law. Not sure if Korean organized crime is involved or not. But yeah, America is actually a far distant third to both South Korea and Japan.
 
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Vice follows a Japanese geriatric as she becomes an adult video star from her application process to a new studio to the filming process:
Now, this is like the old Vice where no subject is too gruesome or disgusting. There documentaries are honestly a hit or miss internationally. Anything in the US side is mostly a crapshoot though.
 
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