Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

[Dread First]

Also speaking of YT, these "shorts" are getting really annoying.

No way to rewind, they have that vertical smartphone look, comments are in a small window, you scroll down and it autoplays an unrelated "short" below it, and now there's this malfunction where you click on a "short", and it takes you to the "short" below it. And if you try to scroll up to the "short" you want to see, it can be blank white with audio only. At least there's a way to see "shorts" normally: copy and paste the video code into a "normal" video URL. But that shouldn't need to be done.

YouTube adopting TikTok-style/Instagram Reel-style "content" (while retroactively rebranding shorter videos into that category without creator consent), alongside the YouTube channels that I follow regularly posting shit on "stories" just immediately killed off any impetus I had to keep using YouTube proper. No disrespect to the content creators themselves, but I refuse to consciously use a video streaming website that's going to integrate more and more bullshit from social media.

Some recommendations to make your life easier:

1. LibRedirect - Redirects YouTube, Twitter, and Reddit through services like Invidious and Nitter (among others). Mostly use it for Invidious functionality. YewTube is my instance of choice on mobile, but that's just because it's easier to edit the links into proper YT stuff.

2. Migrate all of your YouTube subscriptions to an RSS reader that can play embedded YouTube videos. Once you do that, start saving YouTube video links directly to a "read it later" service like Pocket or Wallabag so that you can watch the video via an embedded frame. It's not as nice or convenient, but it gets the job done without clueing in the YouTube algorithms of your watching habits.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

YewTube

I like how that still orders videos by oldest first.* YT getting rid of that feature was annoying.

*edit: If that feature worked on YewTube, that is.

 

[Dread First]

I like how that still orders videos by oldest first.* YT getting rid of that feature was annoying.

*edit: If that feature worked on YewTube, that is.

It is annoying, but it's not necessarily a problem for me. If I really want to search out a specific older video from a content creator I enjoy heartily (i.e. Ashens, 8-Bit Guy), LibRedirect on PC and YewTube home shortcut on mobile more or less give me the options that I need.

I can even play Invidious through the lockscreen (though this does vary on an instance-to-instance basis).

 

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Not anymore. Microsoft just disabled it, and Google did some time ago.

Not consistent with what I've seen. I am currently using app passwords with (Office 365, not Hotmail) Microsoft accounts, although I suppose they could have disabled adding more. And you can definately still add them on Google, even on Gmail vs. Apps for Business, although you need to have 3FA enabled.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

memes of Current Year:

Mostly short and abrupt videos on "social media" like "TikTok" - or "Wojak"?

memes of the '00s:

"DO A BARREL ROLL", "GEE IT SURE IS BORING AROUND HERE", "THIS IS SPARTA"...

 

[DeadwastePrime]

memes of Current Year:

Mostly short and abrupt videos on "social media" like "TikTok" - or "Wojak"?

memes of the '00s:

"DO A BARREL ROLL", "GEE IT SURE IS BORING AROUND HERE", "THIS IS SPARTA"...

i wont act like those memes were good even back then but its not like memes now arent much better*

*exceptions exist of course

 

[306h4Ge5eJUJ]

memes of Current Year:

Mostly short and abrupt videos on "social media" like "TikTok" - or "Wojak"?

memes of the '00s:

"DO A BARREL ROLL", "GEE IT SURE IS BORING AROUND HERE", "THIS IS SPARTA"...

Call me paranoid and retarded, but every Tiktok trend gives off this impression of being engineered.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

Call me paranoid and retarded, but every Tiktok trend gives off this impression of being engineered.

The news will only report on things they support("had 100,000 views on TikTok") or debunk("had almost 300 likes on facebook").

If I had Musk money I would start a fact-checker site, target it at my side(or the other, for fun) and just debunk shit I made up to make people reading the site think that their political opponents actually believes what I made up. It's an idea that is very close to what's been going on for a few years... Fact-checking is truth.

 

[Dread First]

Call me paranoid and retarded, but every Tiktok trend gives off this impression of being engineered.

The trends on TikTok definitely feel engineered, but I'd argue that it's a byproduct of genuine organic growth.

You forget that TikTok is the product of Chinese software engineering, and that internet telemetry algorithms have been refined to an alarming extent over the course of a decade. It already gets more than enough data from your watching habits, device ID, geolocation, trends that are happening near you, and so on. However, the man-made horrors beyond your comprehension start to kick in when you start actively engaging your app.

TikTok records everything about the videos that you engage with (i.e. like, comment, save, etc): hashtags, metadata from the creator, mutuals who like that page + others, you get the idea. Yes, other apps like Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, and the like do similar things but TikTok is able to accomplish the same thing but with much greater efficiency.

Now picture this: millions of people across the country within their own personalised bubbles that have some degree of overlap with one another even in the most seemingly inconsequential of ways. It feels engineered, but that's kind of a side-effect when the primary function of the app is to drip-feed you a constant stream of entertainment while harvesting the data you produce.

 

[Super Dilator Duel 3D]

This thread is very enjoyable to read through. It's good to see that I'm not the only one who fucking loathes the state of the modern web.

It saddens me how easy it would've been and STILL IS to prevent this corporate bullshit, too. Normies just need to start giving a shit about the technology they use every day. Instead, why not sell your soul to Google and Facebook and Microsoft and Apple? They already have your data, (because normies are retarded and willingly hand it over) why put in any effort to actually keep yourself and your info private and secure? It's so much easier to submit to the dopamine rush of social media, let Google know what color the inside of your ass is so they can show you targeted advertisements and make you consoom more products for that sweet short-term pleasure. This is the mindset that's killed the Internet. We decided to give control of the net over from the techies, engineers and hobbyists who used to have it to the drooling, screeching literal retards it's run by now to make things more "convenient" and that's why things are the way they are.

I only joined this site a year ago, but it's because of the spirit this site keeps alive that I finally opened my eyes. The state of the web and where it's headed has rightfully sickened all of us. Our spread of information should not be controlled and paywalled by corporate monopolies, or any single entity at all. It's how we've ended up being assfucked by Zuck, Gates and the rest of the Silicon Valley megalomaniacs not just on the internet but in our operating systems and programs as well.

If there's a lesson to be taken from this debacle in regards to the Internet and the way we use it, let it be this. People, primarily on social media, will tell you that there's no point in fighting it or trying to change things. I say fuck them, you shouldn't care if you're the last fucking retard not using Twatter or TikTok or Reddit, it's the love for the capabilities the Internet has provided for humanity and has the potential to continue providing that should drive you to take Josh's lead and attempt to break away. Build your own sites and forums without relying on cookie-cutter soulless template shit like Squarespace. Delete your fucking social media and strive to have no masters online telling you what you can and can't say. Be the change you want to see even if it's solely out of spite for the corporate overlords and their journo/tranny minions. That is the only way we're ever going to bring back the spirit of the old Internet, even if it feels like it's ineffective.

Sorry for the really faggoty preachy post, but pretending there's nothing we can do about this is only going to lead us further into a centralized Web 3.0 metaverse shithole and we should all absolutely REFUSE to be a part of that dystopian nightmare.

P.S. fuck doomers, ignore them. and fuck coomers too, they always ruin the "alternative" sites with their degen furry loli hentai shit

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

This Lex Fridman keeps popping up in my youtube feed, way before Kanye. Wtf, I've watched some but he's like a piece of cabbage on Xanax. "Yeah, but ... just... ... .... ... that ... AI learning"
I must have missed something, why is he suddenly popular? It must be a push from youtube.

 

[Catler]

- If I have to dismiss one more cookie pop up I'm going to lose it.
- If I have to dismiss one more "login with google" modal I'm going to lose it.
- I'm going to continue signing up [expletives]@gmail.com in newsletter popups.
- Short form video content is a cancer and if I have to see another one ever again it'll be too soon.
- Youtube recommendations are completely and totally broken.
- I am sick and tired of hearing people use internet sayings and terms in real life. I don't want to hear reddit quoted at the fucking grocery store.
- I am tired of how literally nothing fucking works anymore. Name something, bet it doesn't work like it should.

The modern web is not fixable, it's a lost cause. I'm getting less value out of it than ever before and in what is probably a positive thing, my time spent online has been dropping dramatically this year.

 

[Mister Uno]

memes of Current Year:

Mostly short and abrupt videos on "social media" like "TikTok" - or "Wojak"?

memes of the '00s:

"DO A BARREL ROLL", "GEE IT SURE IS BORING AROUND HERE", "THIS IS SPARTA"...

I sometimes feel like I am the few people are are sick and tired of wojack and pepe being recycled for memes for years now. Just let them die.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

you shouldn't care if you're the last fucking retard not using Twatter or TikTok or Reddit

Because the 2010s were a blur, "social media" seems like a fad that suddenly appeared and caught on. I still remember "Facebook" being huge as recent. Even "Myspace" can still feel somewhat recent. I never had a serious desire to hop on the "social media" bandwagon, just like with the "cellphone culture" and "smartphone culture" crazes - and I see "social media" and such "cultures" as annoying at best. I think that this world would be better off without that crap. The internet of the '00s may have lacked realtime 3D and streaming video in HD, but I think it was better overall. Also KF is like a web 1.0 forum from the '00s, and that's good.

(Also when "YouTube" began to catch on, I thought it was annoying for some reason.)

(Yeah I'm old enough to remember the world before 9/11. I also kind of miss the slow and limited internet of the late 1990s.)

 

[Dread First]

- If I have to dismiss one more cookie pop up I'm going to lose it.

Import this into custom filters in uBlock Origin:

https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/abp/

- If I have to dismiss one more "login with google" modal I'm going to lose it.

uBlock Origin Medium Mode handles the annoyances, plus migrating away from Google for unimportant shit that you can afford to decouple from them.

- I'm going to continue signing up [expletives]@gmail.com in newsletter popups.

Kill the Newsletter allows you to sign up for newsletters in a dummy inbox and then import the RSS feed into your reader of choice via the provided link to the XML file. Quite handy to say the least.

- Short form video content is a cancer and if I have to see another one ever again it'll be too soon.

Migrating your YouTube subscriptions to RSS and consuming YouTube videos in an RSS reader (or a read-it-later service like Pocket, Instapaper, or Wallabag) by using a YouTube embedded frame is equally valid, and gets rid of a ton of annoyances on mobile.

- Youtube recommendations are completely and totally broken.

They've finally stopped working for me altogether ever since Google recognised that I haven't kept my watch history on since the feature was first implemented in 2013. I switched over to Invidious; Libredirect will help you out significantly in this regard.

- I am sick and tired of hearing people use internet sayings and terms in real life. I don't want to hear reddit quoted at the fucking grocery store.
- I am tired of how literally nothing fucking works anymore. Name something, bet it doesn't work like it should.

The modern web is not fixable, it's a lost cause. I'm getting less value out of it than ever before and in what is probably a positive thing, my time spent online has been dropping dramatically this year.

The modern web is broken and people are apathetic, but that doesn't stop people from trying to "tame" the chaos. You have options, so stop being a doompilled cuckold.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

"Fandom" seems to be getting more and more "smartphone-y" and unusable.

- overly dependent on JavaScript to do anything

- overloaded with ads so an ad-blocker is pretty much needed

- clicking on an image in a gallery to open it in another tab just opens another tab with the same article

- images in a gallery have to be viewed in this pop-up window thing

- all images are automatically converted to the hipster WEBP format

- comments aren't there unless one scrolls down to the comments section where they auto-open

- articles are always displayed in a squished-in view unless one clicks this button to stretch them out

- that annoying section at the bottom with links to stuff on popular megacorporation-driven franchises

- they recently went more Current Year censor-y (possibly to appease advertisers)

- did I mention all the advertising?

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

It is astounding to me that the sites that advertise themselves as alternatives to the mainstream social media sites just copy all of the god awful trash "features" that are causing people to look for alternatives in the first place. Why does every Youtube alt try to be modern Youtube for instance, I don't want modern Youtube I want an alternative to it.

The big problem, other than the sites being nuked, in trying to create a less centralized internet like the 00s is that you have to be in the know to find things, and since search engines no longer function as search engines, how would people find out about such places?

The internet feels so small and lifeless now, it's micro shit posting with the rainbows and the bots on Twitter, mindless copy paste unpersonalized masses on Reddit, boomer Facebook, pedo safe space Discord, thottery barn Twitch, Comment Eating Small/Old Video Hiding Sanitized Youtube, And TikTok is just fuck, there is almost nothing to do on the internet anymore when the farms is down, other than ChudBuds or the Internet Archive or something.

And why is the fact that all of these big sites require a phone number to use such a silent issue that never gets any attention.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The internet feels so small and lifeless now

Like I said, I blame the "smartphone culture" and "social media culture" for the state of the internet of Current Year.

I think the only way to get the '00s internet back is for "smartphone culture" and "social media culture" to go away...

 

[Ice Mountain]

"Fandom" seems to be getting more and more "smartphone-y" and unusable.

- overly dependent on JavaScript to do anything

- overloaded with ads so an ad-blocker is pretty much needed

- clicking on an image in a gallery to open it in another tab just opens another tab with the same article

- images in a gallery have to be viewed in this pop-up window thing

- all images are automatically converted to the hipster WEBP format

- comments aren't there unless one scrolls down to the comments section where they auto-open

- articles are always displayed in a squished-in view unless one clicks this button to stretch them out

- that annoying section at the bottom with links to stuff on popular megacorporation-driven franchises

- they recently went more Current Year censor-y (possibly to appease advertisers)

- did I mention all the advertising?

You know you fucked up when ED is easier to use than your piece of shit "wiki".

 

[Dread First]

"Fandom" seems to be getting more and more "smartphone-y" and unusable.

- overly dependent on JavaScript to do anything

- overloaded with ads so an ad-blocker is pretty much needed

- clicking on an image in a gallery to open it in another tab just opens another tab with the same article

- images in a gallery have to be viewed in this pop-up window thing

- all images are automatically converted to the hipster WEBP format

- comments aren't there unless one scrolls down to the comments section where they auto-open

- articles are always displayed in a squished-in view unless one clicks this button to stretch them out

- that annoying section at the bottom with links to stuff on popular megacorporation-driven franchises

- they recently went more Current Year censor-y (possibly to appease advertisers)

- did I mention all the advertising?

Fandom also bought out Curse in 2018. Tons of excellent fansites for various MMOs either got consolidated into that MMO's relevant "wiki" or they were deleted outright.

RuneScape, Minecraft, Yu-Gi-Oh!, and I think maybe League of Legends were the first wikis to migrate away from Fandom to their own self-hosted wikis due to the software being open source and the content being creative commons.