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75% OF MEN ARE TOO SCARED TO CHAT UP WOMEN


Men are scared to chat women up for fear of saying the wrong thing a new study has revealed. Three quarters won’t approach a romantic interest for fear of saying the wrong thing or in case it is inappropriate.

Nearly four in ten (39%) men said that #metoo had hurt their loves lives, as did over a quarter of women (27%). While more than a third (38%) of those surveyed said they’d been approached less since #metoo. But two thirds of all singles (66%) said they’d like to be approached more by potential dates.

The research of 1,000 singles, commissioned by dating app happn, found that 72% of men didn’t think it was acceptable to tell someone they look beautiful. More than half (52%) felt the same way about extending an invitation for a drink and two thirds (69%) didn’t think it was acceptable to ask someone out to dinner.

However 65% of women said that they would laugh at a saucy chat up line and only 4% said they’d be offended. Can I get you a drink was deemed the most appropriate chat up line by (48%), followed by: you’re looking very beautiful today (26%).

The cheesy approach is less popular as only 8% of women said the chat up line: did it hurt when you fell from heaven was acceptable. But one in ten women were open to saucy lines and said: do you fancy breakfast in the morning, was an acceptable thing to say. However they drew the line at: you’ve got great boobs, which only 5% felt comfortable with.

Nearly two thirds (61%) of men said they feel more comfortable instigating romance online. While 30% like to find dates through apps and online.

Dating trends expert at happn says: “It is positive to see that #metoo has created such a tangible cultural shift. Men are conscious of being respectful in their language and their approach, which can only be a good thing when it comes to instigating a relationship. It is also positive to see that women are open to being approached in the right way in most situations and that the digital space is creating an environment where all singles feel comfortable and safe in approaching each other.”

 

[God of Nothing]

Your comment's controversial, but some guy took me through something he did on Tinder where his first photo was him working out at the gym while his profile involved an extensive list of requirements, one of them being "check your attitude at the door" or something to that effect.

He got several responses from angry women, who then proceeded to carry on conversations with him ostensibly to stick it to him. The first question being, why did they swipe right on someone that irritated them so?

I suspect "women don't know what they want" is a severe oversimplification of the matter, but then I recall that @Lemmingwise described several examples of exactly that.

I believe you once essay posted about how women actively deny their female desires, which results in wet dreams about donald trump.

You ever hear of the Tinder experiment where dude put up a male model picture; but description was something like "I'm a convicted sex offender who raped children." Lots of female attention that one.

oh yeah, this one

 

[The Ugly One]

For example : if a man left a woman, which historically happened a lot, she would be left with the kids, with financial problems, etc. It wasn't an easy life for the kids nor the woman. That was socially acceptable. It was also socially acceptable to beat the woman to "keep her in line". No one wants to give up their life to be at the whim of someone else.
What you describe as "stacking against men" is a completely new thing. It wasn't the way a century ago or even 50 years ago.

100% of this is made-up bullshit and completely contradicted by all the facts we have about what life was like in America before 1960. The problem is that, being a woman, you think that making shit up in your head, having an emotional reaction to it, and imagining it super hard means it is real, and men are to blame.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

Your comment's controversial, but some guy took me through something he did on Tinder where his first photo was him working out at the gym while his profile involved an extensive list of requirements, one of them being "check your attitude at the door" or something to that effect.

He got several responses from angry women, who then proceeded to carry on conversations with him ostensibly to stick it to him. The first question being, why did they swipe right on someone that irritated them so? I get it, it's Tinder, it's not exactly representative of the general population-- but those are still social women.

I suspect "women don't know what they want" is a severe oversimplification of the matter, but I also recall that @Lemmingwise described several examples of exactly that.

It's not common knowledge but many women in general behave like that. They draw to men that irritate them/upset them/anger them. Sure in the case sample you listed the guy was working out so probably in good shape, but even in the past most women got with men who literally pissed them off. Even from my own experience many women who became quite close started out either being disgusted with me or angry at my attitude/quirky behaviors.

An old belief on the subject was anger was a heavy sexual mood for women. Where women have comfy lives so being happy does not sexually energize women as it does for men. (IE: Men face constant conflicts and dreary existences on average so becoming happy often leads to sexual excitement for men, it's the opposite for women) Same reason women draw to men who treat them with blatant disrespect and like shit at times. This could be causing a rollercoaster of emotions keeping them clinging on average to abusers and not just chad.

PL time: Back around 2005 (maybe 2006) when I first met modern feminist, I had an online debate with one lady where I lost my temper with her dumb arguments and began insulting her outright. At first she had a meltdown at my response to her but then came back and started requesting to talk to me face to face, despite her being married and being "satisfied." She wanted to meet up with me and all other weird oddities, she gave me her number, told me where she lived, even said she'd buy a plane ticket to meet me if I would just accept her invitation. I declined and she got more obsessed but after a while she finally gave up and never returned.

One Muslim girl that became romantically interested in me for instance, started out with me talking about how much I despise Muslims in front of her before I even knew she was one. When I was crude she'd get invested in hanging with me, and some of the stuff I caused she enjoyed even with some anger inducing issues.

Some recent girl was threatening to stab a friend's little brother, and I began cascading them with insults, and they began sending me sexual invitations to join them in a bubble bath and when I attacked the girl's friends as well, they joined a chat with me doing similar things.

/etc.

it's like those men in the old days who would shit talk their wives or fight them all the time, yet neither would leave the other or if they did it wasn't until years later because the emotional rollercoaster seemed to be operating in motion. It might even be tied into why little boys bully girls they like and what not might be ingrained into girl's psyche to some extent. I'm not entirely sure but it does seem to function like that.

The exception to this is of course you're chad, then the women don't need emotional rollercoasters to react this way it seems, and their default is submissive ecstasy.

 

[God of Nothing]

god i wish you're just bullshitting but i've seen too much shit to completely write you off

 

[Matt Damon]

I believe you once essay posted about how women actively deny their female desires, which results in wet dreams about donald trump.

oh yeah, this one

I don't know about that dating app screen cap. Not only would it require women to be unbelievably morally contemptible, but also gullible to a degree that stretches believability.

Who looks at an obviously well-produced photo of a model on a dating site and says "yes, I believe this is a real photo of the real person who made this account"? Nobody on the Internet is that credulous anymore.

 

[God of Nothing]

I don't know about that dating app screen cap. Not only would it require women to be unbelievably morally contemptible, but also gullible to a degree that stretches believability.

Who looks at an obviously well-produced photo of a model on a dating site and says "yes, I believe this is a real photo of the real person who made this account"? Nobody on the Internet is that credulous anymore.

you're forgetting how terminally online women can be

 

[CIS White Droid]

It is positive to see that #metoo has created such a tangible cultural shift. Men are conscious of being respectful in their language and their approach, which can only be a good thing when it comes to instigating a relationship

"Women have the power to ruin a man's life because he said she looked nice and that's a good thing." Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot.

 

[Pissmaster]

Just start doing stuff like this to wait staff and cashiers to build confidence:

If someone starts crackin' down on you just call them a fag and laugh at them. If they're muscular just say "Don't you have some steroids to attend to?" If he's black just say "Ooh, I must be really tough lookin' if they sent the biggest nigger on campus!" They won't hit you or anything, they don't wanna get arrested.

 

[God of Nothing]

Just start doing stuff like this to wait staff and cashiers to build confidence:

If someone starts crackin' down on you just call them a fag and laugh at them. If they're muscular just say "Don't you have some steroids to attend to?" If he's black just say "Ooh, I must be really tough lookin' if they sent the biggest nigger on campus!" They won't hit you or anything, they don't wanna get arrested.

half of people are fat
which means of women are fat

that means half of the women you come across will be fat
no way, fag

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

I've noticed this particularly with career driven women that aren't hooking up, the longer they go without a man the higher the standard gets because they want that pay off for waiting so long and overvalue themselves in the sexual marketplace as somehow their career makes them more desirable. But the guy still has to be earning more than them.

They try to attract men the way men attract women and it rarely works but they don't seem to understand that.
Honest communication between the sexes would help immensely but that's probably impossible. Just seeing narcissistic tiktok women encourage followers to treat men poorly doesn't create healthy inter-sex relationships.

 

[God of Nothing]

Honest communication between the sexes would help immensely but that's probably impossible.

Men just want to fuck.
And women want...well, they can't really answer that either

 

[DamnWolves!]

I don't disagree that whatever % of divorce is initiated by women - because women have more to lose by staying and tolerating it.

It's 70%, which is 7 women for every 3 men.

What makes you think "women have more to lose by staying"? I think this is a baseless statement. What exactly do they have to lose that men do not? Perhaps you mean that there are plenty of resources for newly divorced women, regardless of how badly they've behaved, whereas there aren't really any for men. Perhaps you just don't empathize well with men.

I'm going to divorce this cuck and ride 50 dicks a day and spend all his money whilst he slaves away at work and never gets to see the kids hahahahaha fuck him". She's likely thinking "This guy treats me like shit, thank god for society granting me the ability to divorce him".

Women abandon marriages at more than double the rate of men--men obviously to blame.

In regards to disagreeing with it on my own personal belief, although there is some truth the top 20% do get a significant amount of women, there are still random men who are not of that 20% that also draw women.

If they draw lots of women, they're in the top X%. That's what it means to be in the top X% of men, so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. To a certain extent, so is the confidence of knowing you attract a lot of women.

Certainly, I think it's fair to say that women tend to have higher standards and sometimes even delusional standards. I've never seen men come up with a 40 point list of what they require in a partner like that one crazy lady on Montel, and there's no equivalent of the "666 rule" (6 feet, 6 inches, 6 figures) that men apply to women. Even physical attractiveness is more easily attained for women--go to the gym and put on muscle vs. just don't get fat. Moreover, the majority of men rate the majority of women their same age as attractive, whereas women rate something like 80% of men as "below average".

I think if you ask the question "Have dating apps made it harder for 80% of men to get a date with a given woman?", you'd probably have to answer "yes".

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

I don't know about that dating app screen cap. Not only would it require women to be unbelievably morally contemptible, but also gullible to a degree that stretches believability.

Who looks at an obviously well-produced photo of a model on a dating site and says "yes, I believe this is a real photo of the real person who made this account"? Nobody on the Internet is that credulous anymore.

Br*tish women don't count.

Also I like how the evidence to prove 'the manosphere' is some possibly fake Tinder messages. (Has it occured to any of you that it may be fake?)

 

[Matt Damon]

Also I like how the evidence to prove 'the manosphere' is some possibly fake Tinder messages. (Has it occured to any of you that it may be fake?)

I don't know about the "manosphere", but there's a hell of a lot more evidence that supports the criticisms of the modern dating market than just that one picture and it's silly to imply otherwise.

 

[God of Nothing]

Br*tish women don't count.

Also I like how the evidence to prove 'the manosphere' is some possibly fake Tinder messages. (Has it occured to any of you that it may be fake?)

Can you argue in favor of it being fake or are you just going to dismiss or challenge the legitimacy of claims/evidence because you don't agree with them? It's possible some are fake, as the maker of the screenshots has censored certain personal information, but this specific experiment is entirely recreatable.

 

[Ser Prize]

There are a lot of women out there who feel the opposite way.
They don't want to have relationships with men, if it means becoming a second class citizen, being treated poorly and having an uncertain future, should a younger model come along.
Historically speaking, men haven't treated wives that great and have gotten away with it due to social and cultural "values".

For example : if a man left a woman, which historically happened a lot, she would be left with the kids, with financial problems, etc. It wasn't an easy life for the kids nor the woman. That was socially acceptable. It was also socially acceptable to beat the woman to "keep her in line". No one wants to give up their life to be at the whim of someone else.
What you describe as "stacking against men" is a completely new thing. It wasn't the way a century ago or even 50 years ago.

Having said that, the very vast majority of people out there today, male or female, are unbearable thots with no sense of morality or common sense.

You neglect to mention that if a husband threw his wife out her male relatives were LEGALLY OBLIGATED to care for her. Don't pull this "BUT WE WERE SO OPPRESSSSSSSED" shit.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

When women say they want to be approached more by men, they are referring to attractive men only. A saucy pickup line will cause 65% of women to laugh…if he’s attractive. If he’s not attractive and he uses a saucy pickup line, well, best of luck, buddy. Maybe he’ll just get an awkward rejection because most women can’t handle a scenario where some unattractive guy is interested in them these days. Back when women weren’t fragile, they often had ways to reject a guy without making him feel too bad. Women are incentivized to be increasingly fragile so now they want society to deal with guys they don’t want hitting on them which increasingly means involving the law.

Unattractive men are continue to be expected to fuck off as per usual. Please also note that approximately 80% of men are deemed below attractive. My waifu and I are about to have our second child and he’s a boy so I dread the utter shitshow he has to get into. Women claim to hate how terrible dating is but they love having all of the power, which they use to push out the undesirables. Most guys will just get the hint and spend those nights playing online games.

tl;dr this article can fuck off

1. This is so fucking dumb. No man who "approaches" with a line should expect to be taken seriously at all. I certainly never have taken cheesy lines as anything more than someone trying to be either goofy or an ass, and whether I laughed in good humor or shut them down had nothing to do with their looks and everything to do with whether they seemed to have some self-awareness and some respect*. But I can't think of any time I actually took anyone using actual lines seriously - beautiful, ugly, rich, poor, in my self-perceived league or out of it (up or down).

* I'm super-compassionate, so I'd be more patient and sweeter with a misguided unfortunate than with a gorgeous cheeseball with an air of entitlement.

(Then again, I feel no (there is no) obligation to accept a date just because I chatted for 5 or 30 minutes, something that seems to make all the black-hearted Droopy Dogs burn with resentment and scream to the internet gods.)

But are you telling me that you men think that lines actually work? Who told you that dumb shit? Use your brains. Strike up a conversation, make an observation, don't run a line, you maladjusted twits. Especially if you aren't good at it and/or take it seriously.

2. Get some fucking real confidence. If you walk around all butthurt and paranoid (and simultaneously thinking you know better than all women what all women want, and also perceiving all women as some sort of fungible prototype or piece of a blob), it oozes off of you, and it is as off-putting as dirty fingernails, greasy hair, and open boils.

And stop blaming everyone else for why you don't have it (confidence). Man up, and fix yourself before launching yourself on others.

3. Learn to experience rejection without feeling rejected. Get some boundaries that aren't the insular, unpleasant kinds. If you're consumed by thoughts of rejection or that everyone of your hoped-for gender group is malicious or some other kind of horrible, get some therapy. Or retire from hope and dating and just go be a literal cave-dwelling misanthrope. Seriously, if you're not willing to do something to help yourself (that doesn't involve listening to other negative Nancies and circle-jerking your life away), then why even bother? Put your energy to better use in something you don't hate and fear.

 

[74164978231]

Or "now that we have three kids and a mortgage, the magic is gone and I deserve better".

Women initiate divorce at significantly higher rates compared to men and a large part of the time its financial related.

You ever hear of the Tinder experiment where dude put up a male model picture; but description was something like "I'm a convicted sex offender who raped children." Lots of female attention that one.

Thats called chadfishing.

If you want some real depression fuel, look up reverse catfishing. Some bodybuilding mutoid went on Tinder posing as what should have been the most unfuckable woman around; morbidly obese, shit personality, multiple kids etc. Yet still had seemingly decent guys falling over themselves to try and be with her;

Misc.

The most popular bodybuilding message boards!

forum.bodybuilding.com

Thats the true problem with the modern male/female dating dynamic. Men have devauled themselves to be absolutely meaningless because even quality men will happily turn into the biggest simps. So if youre an around average guy playing the game in a rational manner you are absolutely fucked. Simps and Chads alike have fucked men over.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

I don't know about the "manosphere", but there's a hell of a lot more evidence that supports the criticisms of the modern dating market than just that one picture and it's silly to imply otherwise.

Not saying that, but enforcing this belief with 'chadfishing' texts and comedians is silly. Anything manosphere related is pathetic.

Can you argue in favor of it being fake or are you just going to dismiss or challenge the legitimacy of claims/evidence because you don't agree with them? It's possible some are fake, as the maker of the screenshots has censored certain personal information, but this specific experiment is entirely recreatable.

1) British women don't count.
2) Just because you attract scummy people doesn't mean that all people are like that. Learn to filter them out.

3. Learn to experience rejection without feeling rejected. Get some boundaries that aren't the insular, unpleasant kinds. If you're consumed by thoughts of rejection or that everyone of your hoped-for gender group is malicious or some other kind of horrible, get some therapy. Or retire ftom hope and dating and just go be a literal cave-dwelling misanthrope. Seriously, if you're not willing to do something to help yourself (that doesn't involve listening to other negative Nancies and circle-jerking your life away, then why even bother? Put your energy to better use in something you don't hate and fear.

Kind of how women have to experience awkward and out-of-place comments. I get the same vibe from the 'cat called' feminists.

Cancel culture has just made people double-down and be spiteful towards eachother.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

It's not common knowledge but many women in general behave like that. They draw to men that irritate them/upset them/anger them. Sure in the case sample you listed the guy was working out so probably in good shape, but even in the past most women got with men who literally pissed them off. Even from my own experience many women who became quite close started out either being disgusted with me or angry at my attitude/quirky behaviors.

An old belief on the subject was anger was a heavy sexual mood for women. Where women have comfy lives so being happy does not sexually energize women as it does for men. (IE: Men face constant conflicts and dreary existences on average so becoming happy often leads to sexual excitement for men, it's the opposite for women) Same reason women draw to men who treat them with blatant disrespect and like shit at times. This could be causing a rollercoaster of emotions keeping them clinging on average to abusers and not just chad.

PL time: Back around 2005 (maybe 2006) when I first met modern feminist, I had an online debate with one lady where I lost my temper with her dumb arguments and began insulting her outright. At first she had a meltdown at my response to her but then came back and started requesting to talk to me face to face, despite her being married and being "satisfied." She wanted to meet up with me and all other weird oddities, she gave me her number, told me where she lived, even said she'd buy a plane ticket to meet me if I would just accept her invitation. I declined and she got more obsessed but after a while she finally gave up and never returned.

One Muslim girl that became romantically interested in me for instance, started out with me talking about how much I despise Muslims in front of her before I even knew she was one. When I was crude she'd get invested in hanging with me, and some of the stuff I caused she enjoyed even with some anger inducing issues.

Some recent girl was threatening to stab a friend's little brother, and I began cascading them with insults, and they began sending me sexual invitations to join them in a bubble bath and when I attacked the girl's friends as well, they joined a chat with me doing similar things.

/etc.

it's like those men in the old days who would shit talk their wives or fight them all the time, yet neither would leave the other or if they did it wasn't until years later because the emotional rollercoaster seemed to be operating in motion. It might even be tied into why little boys bully girls they like and what not might be ingrained into girl's psyche to some extent. I'm not entirely sure but it does seem to function like that.

The exception to this is of course you're chad, then the women don't need emotional rollercoasters to react this way it seems, and their default is submissive ecstasy.

This is kind of tangentially related to your post, but I've known of multiple women who have been raped/sexually abused in various ways (women either I or my friends have dated). Every single one liked really rough sex. Not just weak shit like hair pulling, but full blown choking until they turned blue, grabbing them by the back of the neck and forcibly bending them over, and other violent shit like that.

I don't know where I'm going with this, but my point is women's sexuality is fucking weird.