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75% OF MEN ARE TOO SCARED TO CHAT UP WOMEN


Men are scared to chat women up for fear of saying the wrong thing a new study has revealed. Three quarters won’t approach a romantic interest for fear of saying the wrong thing or in case it is inappropriate.

Nearly four in ten (39%) men said that #metoo had hurt their loves lives, as did over a quarter of women (27%). While more than a third (38%) of those surveyed said they’d been approached less since #metoo. But two thirds of all singles (66%) said they’d like to be approached more by potential dates.

The research of 1,000 singles, commissioned by dating app happn, found that 72% of men didn’t think it was acceptable to tell someone they look beautiful. More than half (52%) felt the same way about extending an invitation for a drink and two thirds (69%) didn’t think it was acceptable to ask someone out to dinner.

However 65% of women said that they would laugh at a saucy chat up line and only 4% said they’d be offended. Can I get you a drink was deemed the most appropriate chat up line by (48%), followed by: you’re looking very beautiful today (26%).

The cheesy approach is less popular as only 8% of women said the chat up line: did it hurt when you fell from heaven was acceptable. But one in ten women were open to saucy lines and said: do you fancy breakfast in the morning, was an acceptable thing to say. However they drew the line at: you’ve got great boobs, which only 5% felt comfortable with.

Nearly two thirds (61%) of men said they feel more comfortable instigating romance online. While 30% like to find dates through apps and online.

Dating trends expert at happn says: “It is positive to see that #metoo has created such a tangible cultural shift. Men are conscious of being respectful in their language and their approach, which can only be a good thing when it comes to instigating a relationship. It is also positive to see that women are open to being approached in the right way in most situations and that the digital space is creating an environment where all singles feel comfortable and safe in approaching each other.”

 

[God of Nothing]

1) British women don't count.
2) Just because you attract scummy people doesn't mean that all people are like that. Learn to filter them out.

What? I don't think you fully understand the tinder experiment yourself. If the average man blindly swipes right a hundred times, he's likely only to match once. The reason why it's so horrifying is that chad thundercock, despite having the absolute worst personality ever, still gets more off looks alone.

 

[Kheapathic]

What? I don't think you fully understand the tinder experiment yourself. If the average man blindly swipes right a hundred times, he's likely only to match once. The reason why it's so horrifying is that chad thundercock, despite having the absolute worst personality ever, still gets more off looks alone.

It doesn't help that a lot of girls use tinder as clout or marketing for their Instagram/OnlyFans/etc. Even if they might like you, they create a profile and never look at what's available.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I believe you once essay posted about how women actively deny their female desires, which results in wet dreams about donald trump.

That sounds like an objectively true thing I've said at some point. Mine probably wasn't a better essay than this one, though.

Incidentally, we've independently come to almost the same conclusion regarding what you call "dual mating". I think the reason why I didn't immediately consider what you're referring to when I questioned the idea of "women don't know what they want" is because the argument I just linked to starts from the premise that women actually aren't totally lying about their desires regarding men as much as they're telling half the truth/suppressing the other half that they think makes them look ugly if known to others.

* I'm super-compassionate

Whatever that was aside, if any men here wanted practical advice, they'd almost certainly be better served asking another man for it.

 

[Shidoen]

Stop using Tinder and do the real man's way of getting a van and kidnapping potential wives. It may not be the legal or morally correct option, but you don't see this problem in Cuntafuckistan.

 

[God of Nothing]

That sounds like an objectively true thing I've said at some point. Mine probably wasn't a better essay than this one, though.

that post is very confusing and feels like it's beating around the bush itself

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

Chating op women is easy, don't be ugly.

 

[74164978231]

I don't know where I'm going with this, but my point is women's sexuality is fucking weird.

1) Childhood abuse has a big impact on future sexual inclinations
2) Women's sexuality is every bit as perverse as a mans. One of the greatest scams ever is the idea women arent as carnal as men are.

I've noticed this particularly with career driven women that aren't hooking up, the longer they go without a man the higher the standard gets because they want that pay off for waiting so long and overvalue themselves in the sexual marketplace as somehow their career makes them more desirable. But the guy still has to be earning more than them.

Thats not a modern phenomena, thats fundamental female instinct since the dawn of humanity. Women do not date/marry men they perceive to be lower in social/economic standing, they only date/marry equals or their superiors.

That worked out well until the 1960s when 95% of men where their superiors. With the advent of 2nd wave feminism and women going to college and working en mass suddenly a huge % of men are now beneath them because they have a deadend wageslave job or worse, a piece of people from a college saying they are smart. Doesnt matter if youre a guy who owns a home making $25-30/hr, a women will deem you beneath her and unworthy if you dont have a degree and she does.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

1) Childhood abuse has a big impact on future sexual inclinations

To clarify, they weren't all abused as kids. Some were, some were raped as adults by boyfriends, some by strangers, they all varied. But the end result was the same, they wanted to be hurt sexually.

2) Women's sexuality is every bit as perverse as a mans. One of the greatest scams ever is the idea women arent as carnal as men are.

Definitely, but it's not the perversion itself I find odd. It's the fact that they get off on recreating a deeply traumatic event I find weird. Like a man will be into feet and want suck on toes (or whatever it is they do) and that's just how he is, but a woman getting raped seems to trigger some sort of desire to be abused. It's really bizarre to me.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

What? I don't think you fully understand the tinder experiment yourself. If the average man blindly swipes right a hundred times, he's likely only to match once. The reason why it's so horrifying is that chad thundercock, despite having the absolute worst personality ever, still gets more off looks alone.

Have you ever seen comparisons of female swipe statistics to male ones? It's not uncommon for women to only swipe right on under 5% of men (meaning she's solely swiping right on the absolute cream of the crop), and still get matches from the majority of those men.
Saw one video of a woman showing off her statistics; she had swiped left on nearly 30,000 men compared to swiping right on around 900 men, and she still got matches with more than half of them. Men could only dream of that level of success while still being that picky.

Fun fact: One dating app, Bumble, allowed you to set up a filter to get rid of people below or above a certain height - men under 6' were immediately filtered out by over 60% of women that had a filter set up, and men that were at or below the average US height (5'9) were filtered out by over 80%. Even guys that were above 6' were getting frequently filtered out, only once you got to 6'8" did a taller height become detrimental. It got to the point where Bumble had to lock the filter behind a paywall because of how widespread it was, because not many men would want to use a dating app where nearly every single woman has them immediately blocked.

 

[God of Nothing]

That worked out well until the 1960s when 95% of men where their superiors. With the advent of 2nd wave feminism and women going to college and working en mass suddenly a huge % of men are now beneath them because they have a deadend wageslave job or worse, a piece of people from a college saying they are smart. Doesnt matter if youre a guy who owns a home making $25-30/hr, a women will deem you beneath her and unworthy if you dont have a degree and she does.

My favorite segment of any manosphere related show or realistic dating discussion is how much men don't give a shit about women's degrees and the complete inability for women on to comprehend it.

Never mind that the woman in question is usually in debt and her degree has the exact value as a slice of bologna

Have you ever seen comparisons of female swipe statistics to male ones? It's not uncommon for women to only swipe right on under 5% of men (meaning she's solely swiping right on the absolute cream of the crop), and still get matches from the majority of those men.
Saw one video of a woman showing off her statistics; she had swiped left on nearly 30,000 men compared to swiping right on around 900 men, and she still got matches with more than half of them. Men could only dream of that level of success while still being that picky.

Fun fact: One dating app, Bumble, allowed you to set up a filter to get rid of people below or above a certain height - men under 6' were immediately filtered out by over 60% of women that had a filter set up, and men that were at or below the average US height (5'9) were filtered out by over 80%. Even guys that were above 6' were getting frequently filtered out, only once you got to 6'8" did a taller height become detrimental. It got to the point where Bumble had to lock the filter behind a paywall because of how widespread it was, because not many men would want to use a dating app where nearly every single woman has them immediately blocked.

It's just batshit insane. Uncontrolled relationships just lead to this kind of shit happening with modern technology. Things would unironically be better if we went back to arranged marriage.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

If they draw lots of women, they're in the top X%. That's what it means to be in the top X% of men, so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. To a certain extent, so is the confidence of knowing you attract a lot of women.

Certainly, I think it's fair to say that women tend to have higher standards and sometimes even delusional standards. I've never seen men come up with a 40 point list of what they require in a partner like that one crazy lady on Montel, and there's no equivalent of the "666 rule" (6 feet, 6 inches, 6 figures) that men apply to women. Even physical attractiveness is more easily attained for women--go to the gym and put on muscle vs. just don't get fat. Moreover, the majority of men rate the majority of women their same age as attractive, whereas women rate something like 80% of men as "below average".

I think if you ask the question "Have dating apps made it harder for 80% of men to get a date with a given woman?", you'd probably have to answer "yes".

I'm talking about wild cards in the dating pool who don't fit any particular niche. Not a chad, not a richie rich, not a beauty, yet still draw women. There may be some other detail or reason for how or why they draw women but nothing that stands out normally. I don't disagree the majority go with the top "Chads/Richies/fuck boy" types, but I've known some guys that most people couldn't figure out how they were drawing girls. Some people randomly do and they exist outside the standard paremeter that most expect. So although the 20/80 rule does certainly have validity to some degree, there are still some exceptions to that rule is all I meant. How much, not sure, and I'm sure the percentage even with exceptions isn't that great.

Exceptions don't define the rule is merely all I mean but they tend to often exist.

To clarify, they weren't all abused as kids. Some were, some were raped as adults by boyfriends, some by strangers, they all varied. But the end result was the same, they wanted to be hurt sexually.


Definitely, but it's not the perversion itself I find odd. It's the fact that they get off on recreating a deeply traumatic event I find weird. Like a man will be into feet and want suck on toes (or whatever it is they do) and that's just how he is, but a woman getting raped seems to trigger some sort of desire to be abused. It's really bizarre to me.

The girl I'm closest too was a victim in such a regard, and from what she explained to me in her regard was something along these lines: She felt recreating the sexual event (or trauma in this case rape) helped her gain control of that feeling in her mind, because every time we would do something sexual whether it was similar to the original rape those memories of her assault would spring to her mind and create a negative image. It took me quite a while to get comfortable with such a situation myself but after she explained in her regards why she wanted a recreation I went along. I'm not sure if that applies to most women though. Though one recent girl I was around said something similar who suffered sexual abuse as a child, so maybe.

 

[74164978231]

Have you ever seen comparisons of female swipe statistics to male ones? It's not uncommon for women to only swipe right on under 5% of men (meaning she's solely swiping right on the absolute cream of the crop), and still get matches from the majority of those men.
Saw one video of a woman showing off her statistics; she had swiped left on nearly 30,000 men compared to swiping right on around 900 men, and she still got matches with more than half of them. Men could only dream of that level of success while still being that picky.

https://youtu.be/jPuQ1Wjd2Rk

 

[The Ugly One]

1) Childhood abuse has a big impact on future sexual inclinations
2) Women's sexuality is every bit as perverse as a mans. One of the greatest scams ever is the idea women arent as carnal as men are.


Thats not a modern phenomena, thats fundamental female instinct since the dawn of humanity. Women do not date/marry men they perceive to be lower in social/economic standing, they only date/marry equals or their superiors.

That worked out well until the 1960s when 95% of men where their superiors. With the advent of 2nd wave feminism and women going to college and working en mass suddenly a huge % of men are now beneath them because they have a deadend wageslave job or worse, a piece of people from a college saying they are smart. Doesnt matter if youre a guy who owns a home making $25-30/hr, a women will deem you beneath her and unworthy if you dont have a degree and she does.

IIRC something like 70% of single women in American cities make more money than single men. Any article I've found this stat is frames it as men being too lazy to work hard enough to be worthy of women. Yet, those same rags also shriek about the gender pay gap.

Basically, every woman thinks every man should make less money than her except for the one guy she's fucking (nobody gets married any more).

 

[God of Nothing]

https://youtu.be/jPuQ1Wjd2Rk

Oh hey, Better Bachelor, I love that guy.

IIRC something like 70% of single women in American cities make more money than single men.

Guess that's why they're single.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

That worked out well until the 1960s when 95% of men where their superiors. With the advent of 2nd wave feminism and women going to college and working en mass suddenly a huge % of men are now beneath them because they have a deadend wageslave job or worse, a piece of people from a college saying they are smart. Doesnt matter if youre a guy who owns a home making $25-30/hr, a women will deem you beneath her and unworthy if you dont have a degree and she does.

Exactly! Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution and civilization have led men to want a good wife/mother in marriage and women to want a good provider for her and her children in marriage. Feminism is a scam, invented by horny corporate men in LA to groom women into being casting couch sluts and wage slaves.

Another thing I'd like to point out is the revulsion works both ways too. Men generally don't want a career woman who's destroyed her ability to pair bond either. Men will sleep with a woman like that, but it takes some extreme feminization before a soyboy would consider marriage with sloppy seconds.

I know it's a bit of a meme to say "women most affected" but single women over 40 are the most miserable demographic in America. At least men have the biological programming to commit themselves to their work/philanthropy if they aren't able to reproduce, since men are more disposable from an evolutionary perspective like ant or bee drones. Women will always live a hallow, meaningless existence without a family.

 

[God of Nothing]

I know it's a bit of a meme to say "women most affected" but single women over 40 are the most miserable demographic in America.

This is always the most depressing thing about liberation/independence: not everyone is actually happy with or capable of what that actually entails.

 

[Bugman's Burden]

Doesnt matter if youre a guy who owns a home making $25-30/hr, a women will deem you beneath her and unworthy if you dont have a degree and she does.

This might be a bit of a PL but $25/hr isn't that much money in many parts of the country. $52k a year should allow for a mortgage of $180-$300k, and there are so many cities where the average home price is way above that. And not just places like Seattle or Boston; you'd be priced out of Albuquerque, maybe even Houston. Same with Raleigh, Charleston, Nashville, Phoenix.

I guess if you found something in the suburbs you could swing it but I wouldn't expect anyone to be impressed that I was making $25 or $30/hr., especially not a woman I wanted to get with.

 

[God of Nothing]

This might be a bit of a PL but $25/hr isn't that much money in many parts of the country.

...it isn't?

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

You just have to remember, if she finds you attractive, it's funny. But, if she thinks you're ugly, it's creepy and a violation.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

You just have to remember, if she finds you attractive, it's funny. But, if she thinks you're ugly, it's creepy and a violation.

He's quiet? It's creepy if he's ugly, it's mysterious if he's attractive.
He's assertive? It's "toxic incel behaviour" if he's ugly, it's manly if he's attractive.
He cold approaches women? It's sad and desperate if he's ugly, but it's confident if he's attractive.

Many traits that are undesirable on ugly men are a non-issue or even desirable on an attractive man, that's just how it is.