US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

maybe it's a sign republicans need to let it the fuck go and stop moralfagging over blood clots. the measure banning abortion in Kentucky is losing right now. KENTUCKY.

Abortion election results: Kentucky poised for pro-choice win

Four other states have also voted on abortion rights - an issue close to the top of voters' priorities.

www.bbc.com

Kentucky went both ways during the Civil War. They've always been sus.

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

maybe it's a sign republicans need to let it the fuck go and stop moralfagging over blood clots.

I beg your pardon? If you're going to bait-post, at least be factually and/or scientifically accurate (especially since abortion and reproductive rights have legitimate and serious points to be argued). However, the left gave up on biology, science, and logic in general so I understand your ignorance DNC-drone.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

(yes that includes the military they're the largest welfare queens because a one year duty assignment to Kuwait is too much for the S1 clerks mind)

I served, so I deserve.

 

[Freya]

I beg your pardon?

one time I posted pictures of miscarriages at 4 weeks to anti choice moids and they were like "that's not a baby, that's just a blod clot"

Kentucky went both ways during the Civil War. They've always been sus.

it got voted down in one of the reddest states in the country. goes to show how much support there really is for this shit

 

[Product Placement]

Pretty sure Dem will keep the senate, while the Rep will get the house, however both of them won't have a sizable majority.
My take aways.

1. Inflation is the number one issue for most voters.

2. People just don't like Biden, clear as day he can't run in 2024. But being clear as day doesn't mean he will step down.

3. People are done with the MAGA shit. Seems both left and right wing want a fresh start for their party with out the current bullshit still tied to it

4. The Roe vs Wade has not work out in Republican favor in terms of votes, abortion rights is the second biggest issues for voters and will have got many young people to vote while they may have otherwise not. I expect this is one of the main reasons the predicted red wave never happened.

5. Most people at best don't care about identity politics, and at worst they hate it. Right wing has been able to capitalize on the hate of it however the left wing is fighting a failing battle focusing on it. Left needs to focus more on the issues that matter to voters which is right now inflation.

6. Ron DeSantis right now is the hero of the republican party, taking a close race in 2018 to a huge win by over 1 million votes in 2022. While won't yet say he is best pick to run for 2024, a lot can be learn from some of his theatrics. While the Martha's Vineyard event will have no impact in terms of policies, it was a great way to appeal to people who feel disenfranchised by the system.

7. 2024 election isn't set in stone, lot can happen depending on the lessons learnt from the mid terms. But doubtful any lessons will be learnt, outside that DeSantis may have a better chance than Trump in winning 2024. This mid-term showed lot of the weakness for both parties with neither being the winners they wanted.

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

Get ready for 20% inflation. It's coming.

if you believe/know the 9.99999% cap conspiracy, we are already there

 

[Random Internet Person]

There's also the all or nothing mindset the Right in America has. Dems get a slight win, move the needle 1% in their favor and they treat it as a win, the Reps get a win in their favor, but not as big as they'd like, and half the party is slashing their wrists and downing entire bottles of black pills and proclaiming doom forever. It's not a winning attitude. You claw anything back from the Moloch worshipping death cult of stupidity that's the American Left that's a cause for celebration. You don't win in American politics by the single, decisive battle going your way, you win by clawing it back bit by bit. It's not like a bigger majority would get much done until the old GOPe is purged anyways.

And I know I've been a bit of a broken record about Glubb cycles before, but we're probably just hitting the starting parts of the real decline phase, it's gonna a bit to get to the other side and restore sanity. We are enormously lucky in that our neighbors are leafs and beaners.

Although if you want to see the effects of the Chinese psi-op known as Tik Tok, those youth voting numbers should give a bit of a clue. Even a good chunk of Millennials are better, the utter retardation of Zoomers should be your real black pill. It can be fixed, only you can give them the bullying that they should have gotten from their peers.

Even if you’re right, the way things are makes things feel like there’s some pressing issues at play, and this election may have been the last chance of solving them with diplomacy.

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

New York continued counting through the night and Zeldin got to within 5 points of Hochul. For a state that typically votes D+15 to D+20 in governor's elections this pleases me as I've said before. It's worth noting that Zeldin's pretty successful campaign did not receive any significant funding from the national GOP and was funded mainly by billionaire Ronald Lauder. Lauder's strategy and investments (including bankrolling a successful lawsuit against Hochul's gerrymander) has been going so well lately that it's got Democrats worrying that it could alter the trajectory of elections for the forseeable future:

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Aside from that, House races in NY are also going well. Last night it looked like the Republican in my (tossup) district was going to lose but he's notched out a modest lead now. Sean Patrick Maloney (the head of the DCCC) lost his election, the Dems lost every competitive House race in NY except for NY-18.

I'm not going to lie, this kind of talk pisses me off. "We lost, but we didn't lose THAT bad, so that's a good thing!" FUCK THAT SHIT. Our democracy is a winner-take-all and not a proportional democracy where votes lead to seats. Hochul is still in office to cause shit and the voter base will forget this "historic close call" in DAYS! Her state admin continues business-as-usual while the general population forgets BS from the past but "OH NO, SHE WON BY A SMALLER MARGIN THAN EXPECTED!". This isn't college football, you have Gov. Hochul in charge, and you should be mad.

This is the same "losing with grace and dignity" token opposition the GOP clings to. Stand in the corner and think about what you said copium-huffer.

one time I posted pictures of miscarriages at 4 weeks to anti choice moids and they were like "that's not a baby, that's just a blod clot"

it got voted down in one of the reddest states in the country. goes to show how much support there really is for this shit

Much scientific. Wow. You must be proud you owned some NEET mods with THE SCIENCE (TM).

 

[Begemot]

This is by design. The Republicans are nothing more than the outer party. They serve to keep the Democrats in line if they feel like cutting funding to defense spending, corporate tax rates, or Israel. That’s it. They’re not designed to lead and when they’re forced to, they do whatever they can to hand it back to the Democrats. There was never going to be a scenario where Republicans were actually going to lead anything. The moment there’s a chance, they get shut down publicly and hard.

He’s not. He’s more interesting in grifting his increasingly desperate base. Stop the Steal netted him at least $200 million, which he pocketed. His plan was to hand the reigns over to Ivanka but nobody takes that bimbo seriously so his only real plans for power have been scuttled. Besides, in two years he will be 76 years old.

People prefer a bad plan to no plan. Say what you want about 1994 and 2010 but they had clear plans and messaging. That’s why Republicans were swept into office. They sensed there could be an even bigger red wave so Republicans naturally did what they could do to prevent that from happening. You’d never be able to tell if Republicans would make inflation better. They blamed it on Biden but not much in the way of what they would do about it.

What about the cultural power the Republicans had under Reagan or W Bush? Are you saying the outer party is only a recent development because the Democrats looked desperate under those periods? I feel you might be retroactively positioning the Republican lack of cultural power back into the past.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

one time I posted pictures of miscarriages at 4 weeks to anti choice moids and they were like "that's not a baby, that's just a blod clot"

it got voted down in one of the reddest states in the country. goes to show how much support there really is for this shit

Stop conflating a ban on third and second trimester with a ban on first trimester abortions. Very few people have problems with the latter.

As an aside as a pro choice radfem can you explain to me why so many women who obsess over abortion look like Brendan Fraser in The Whale?




I'm serious, all you need to change Brandon to one of your movement are problem glasses, colored hair, and a dash of rouge/lipstick. Why is that your uniform?

 

[Lodoss Warrior]

To be the guy who pokes at a wound:

@Gehenna, I'm assuming the mood's dour in your Wisconsin group? What's your take on the governor's race, if you're comfortable answering?

 

[FMW13]

I'm not going to lie, this kind of talk pisses me off. "We lost, but we didn't lose THAT bad, so that's a good thing!" FUCK THAT SHIT. Our democracy is a winner-take-all and not a proportional democracy where votes lead to seats. Hochul is still in office to cause shit and the voter base will forget this "historic close call" in DAYS! Her state admin continues business-as-usual while the general population forgets BS from the past but "OH NO, SHE WON BY A SMALLER MARGIN THAN EXPECTED!". This isn't college football, you have Gov. Hochul in charge, and you should be mad.

This is the same "losing with grace and dignity" token opposition the GOP clings to. Stand in the corner and think about what you said copium-huffer.


Much scientific. Wow. You must be proud you owned some NEET mods with THE SCIENCE (TM).

Somebody is Mad At The Internet.

 

[Freya]

I'm not going to lie, this kind of talk pisses me off. "We lost, but we didn't lose THAT bad, so that's a good thing!" FUCK THAT SHIT. Our democracy is a winner-take-all and not a proportional democracy where votes lead to seats. Hochul is still in office to cause shit and the voter base will forget this "historic close call" in DAYS! Her state admin continues business-as-usual while the general population forgets BS from the past but "OH NO, SHE WON BY A SMALLER MARGIN THAN EXPECTED!". This isn't college football, you have Gov. Hochul in charge, and you should be mad.

This is the same "losing with grace and dignity" token opposition the GOP clings to. Stand in the corner and think about what you said copium-huffer.


Much scientific. Wow. You must be proud you owned some NEET mods with THE SCIENCE (TM).

hahahahahaha motherfucker overdosed on soyjak memes from pol

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

Somebody is Mad At The Internet.

Just trying to understand how a guy can think losing is still winning in a Boolean electoral system. He lost and he should just admit it.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Somebody is Mad At The Internet.

The Uniparty always wins, so we're MATI for good reason.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Your problem is that you're applying common sense and sensibility here, the fact that inflation of all things wasn't enough to shake the status quo is actually frightening

If I had to hazard a guess, this kind of thing is the reason for the But We Didn't Win Hard Enough doomerism. Needle pushing is nice, but you look at the worst inflation in decades while the White House gives interviews to autogynephile troons and think "Jesus fucking wept, how in the literal fuck does half the population still turn out to enthusiastically support THIS shit?"

 

[Delamain]

Well as much as I’m kind of disappointed with how close everything is shaping out to be i can say that I’m satisfied with the results on my state so for now I can say that the sneeding was successful
Edit: so yeah I’m going to play god of war ragnarok now c:

 

[Oxous]

I'm not going to lie, this kind of talk pisses me off. "We lost, but we didn't lose THAT bad, so that's a good thing!" FUCK THAT SHIT. Our democracy is a winner-take-all and not a proportional democracy where votes lead to seats. Hochul is still in office to cause shit and the voter base will forget this "historic close call" in DAYS! Her state admin continues business-as-usual while the general population forgets BS from the past but "OH NO, SHE WON BY A SMALLER MARGIN THAN EXPECTED!". This isn't college football, you have Gov. Hochul in charge, and you should be mad.

This is the same "losing with grace and dignity" token opposition the GOP clings to. Stand in the corner and think about what you said copium-huffer.

Your response indicates that you have been hitting the copium pipe a lot yourself. My post has nothing to do with "losing with dignity", I just wanted to point out that the GOP has shit the bed in places but also exceeded expectations elsewhere. Mike Lawler winning by 2% in a D+3 district and Lauren Boebert being down 2% in an R+7 district in the same year is a pretty remarkable result. We should look at not just the losses but also the (relative) successes across the country, because in combination they give us an idea of what needs to change and be improved upon to have future success. It seems that a lot of both the GOP pickups and defeats happened based on the individual quality of candidates. Smart candidates should look for funding outside of the GOP because it's clear the party's internal fundraising machinery is not going to work for the ones who need it the most.

 

[heathercho]

I'm not going to lie, this kind of talk pisses me off. "We lost, but we didn't lose THAT bad, so that's a good thing!" FUCK THAT SHIT. Our democracy is a winner-take-all and not a proportional democracy where votes lead to seats. Hochul is still in office to cause shit and the voter base will forget this "historic close call" in DAYS! Her state admin continues business-as-usual while the general population forgets BS from the past but "OH NO, SHE WON BY A SMALLER MARGIN THAN EXPECTED!". This isn't college football, you have Gov. Hochul in charge, and you should be mad.

This is the same "losing with grace and dignity" token opposition the GOP clings to. Stand in the corner and think about what you said copium-huffer.


Much scientific. Wow. You must be proud you owned some NEET mods with THE SCIENCE (TM).

You are autistic, but correct. The vote harderites don't get that voting isn't the thing anymore. If you want to win, you've got to enhance - or rather fortify - your results, with a little number diddling.

People should be mad that a souless cunt like Hochul "won". There's no "we'll get em next time".
They'll cheat even smarter and harder until you force them to stop. NY made that obvious with the close call. They won't make that mistake again.

They'd never in a million fucking years let your most important hubs of power - NY, CA, PA and DC turn red. They'll do whatever it takes to keep their status quo. You cannot vote yourself out of that reality.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Pretty sure Dem will keep the senate, while the Rep will get the house, however both of them won't have a sizable majority.
My take aways.

1. Inflation is the number one issue for most voters.

2. People just don't like Biden, clear as day he can't run in 2024. But being clear as day doesn't mean he will step down.

3. People are done with the MAGA shit. Seems both left and right wing want a fresh start for their party with out the current bullshit still tied to it

4. The Roe vs Wade has not work out in Republican favor in terms of votes, abortion rights is the second biggest issues for voters and will have got many young people to vote while they may have otherwise not. I expect this is one of the main reasons the predicted red wave never happened.

5. Most people at best don't care about identity politics, and at worst they hate it. Right wing has been able to capitalize on the hate of it however the left wing is fighting a failing battle focusing on it. Left needs to focus more on the issues that matter to voters which is right now inflation.

6. Ron DeSantis right now is the hero of the republican party, taking a close race in 2018 to a huge win by over 1 million votes in 2022. While won't yet say he is best pick to run for 2024, a lot can be learn from some of his theatrics. While the Martha's Vineyard event will have no impact in terms of policies, it was a great way to appeal to people who feel disenfranchised by the system.

7. 2024 election isn't set in stone, lot can happen depending on the lessons learnt from the mid terms. But doubtful any lessons will be learnt, outside that DeSantis may have a better chance than Trump in winning 2024. This mid-term showed lot of the weakness for both parties with neither being the winners they wanted.

1. Hasn’t the GOP been running on that by and large? And that “the Democrats caused it?” Hell, lots of GOP places (especially governor races) banked on “The Democrats made things go to shit. Will you vote to restore sanity, or head further into oblivion?” Look at how the Red Wave turned out.

2. But is there enough in Congress to force what happened to Nixon, in that controversy led to real impeachment potential and Nixon was forced to resign? If the issue is health, then the only benign reason Biden is still in office is his stubbornness and not wanting to go out like a failure or a disgrace.

3. I can see that. But I think the right is still trying to get the whole “it ain’t 2003 anymore. The game has changed” message across to the folks. Kari Lake was as MAGA as you can get for a candidate. And MTG is still in Congress. Hell, people were saying that this midterm performance could have been a setup for Trump announcing his president run.

4. The thing about abortion is that a lot on the right see the issue of abortion is either “cruel baby murder, destroy Planned Parenthood” or “abortion is just the way kids these days go around being promiscuous without guilt, we need to stop that”. That only appeals to the reddest of red.

5. No lies detected. I’d imagine the right would do better in regards to this point.

6. No wonder we’re hearing about Trump vs DeSantis. Even though the GOP will tell you it’s a scheme to keep them from being United.

7. Two years is a long time in politics. Also, see number 6.

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