Furry Fandom and Drama General

I dont necessarily disagree with what youre saying, but jumping from being or not being a furry to dog fucker only hurts your comparison. Plus, your counter argument is about "how should we define what a furry is", and the assumption that this would change..something in the papers results.

It has been debated ever since the 90s and there is no right or wrong answer. For this, its best you read the study and check what they went for here, which you find on page 3 of the attached PDF, among other pages and paragraphs (hint, they already took into account everything you mentioned, read the fucking thing). The short of it, is that it doesnt matter since the data implies what has been posted, that while not all furries have a tendency to be zoophiles, most zoophiles have a tendency to be furries. This is because the distinction between "furry" and "zoophile" would not change if you broaden or limit the definition up like you suggest. You would arbitrarily create a correlation, which is not only bad analysis, its also not the point of the study.
Stuff like this is stupid because things like "furry" and even "trans" are usually counted based purely on self-identification. Anything based purely on self-identification is arguably not real or accurate. A more correct way to define furry is someone who has a psychological fixation on anthropomorphic animals to a systematic degree whether they identify as furry or are open about it or not. This is obviously much harder to track.
 
I do find it fucking stupid with how FA handled Rick Griffin's piece for merely mentioning that he used AI for assistance in that piece when every day you can go to FA Front Page and see bullshit like literal MS Paint scribbles or beginner SFM Bullshit
It was exactly what I was suggesting earlier in the thread on the topic of the FA's AI policy. It forbids you from photobashing assets that are derived from AI generation. It's dumb and as some of the reddit folks pointed out, AI is just a tool that increases efficiency of a process.
 
Yo, @Roxanne Wolf - Having a field day with Furry Twitter the last few days?

For those unaware, a sizeable number of popular furries and fursuiters are now openly outing themselves as ABDLs where they didn't previously. Unsurprisingly, it's generating discourse from many other open diaperfurs congratulating them and showing solidarity with a much smaller subset of furries denouncing the degeneracy as a bridge too far or putting them at arms length. It was enough to get a damn hashtag trend going for a little while there alongside #Furaffinity - Boy, I wonder how many Twitter normies got an eyeful?
 
Yo, @Roxanne Wolf - Having a field day with Furry Twitter the last few days?

For those unaware, a sizeable number of popular furries and fursuiters are now openly outing themselves as ABDLs where they didn't previously. Unsurprisingly, it's generating discourse from many other open diaperfurs congratulating them and showing solidarity with a much smaller subset of furries denouncing the degeneracy as a bridge too far or putting them at arms length. It was enough to get a damn hashtag trend going for a little while there alongside #Furaffinity - Boy, I wonder how many Twitter normies got an eyeful?
Did you mean to ask, "How are you feeling about being right about the next wave of coomersoomers being diaper niggers?"
Because I absolutely knew it was going to happen - it's just as fad-y as trooning.

Know how I knew?
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600 followers in one day and never coomed the way his audience wants - is all that newfound hug boxing worth your self respect? Going from 18k on main to a coomer Twitter will be a short serotonin hit, and not worth associating with pedos ofc. But as always, the coom is strong with furfags.

>if everyone else is doing it
Poor reason to join the ranks of a group that's as bad as if not worse than furries keeping pedos out.

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>edgy
>babyish
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A bunch of other accounts have come out, varying in follower size, but we will see a new wave of drama and degeneracy hit like Hurricane Ian Brandon Anderson.

God help us.

Additional Reading:
The Cost of The Coom
Babyfurs & Minors - Tragic Results
 
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Did you mean to ask, "How are you feeling about being right about the next wave of coomersoomers being diaper niggers?"
Because I absolutely knew it was going to happen - it's just as fad-y as trooning.

Know how I knew?
Examples:
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600 followers in one day and never coomed the way his audience wants - is all that newfound hug boxing worth your self respect? Going from 18k on main to a coomer Twitter will be a short serotonin hit, and not worth associating with pedos ofc. But as always, the coom is strong with furfags.

>if everyone else is doing it
Poor reason to join the ranks of a group that's as bad as if not worse than furries keeping pedos out.

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>edgy
>babyish
:geek:

A bunch of other accounts have come out, varying in follower size, but we will see a new wave of drama and degeneracy hit like Hurricane Ian Brandon Anderson.

God help us.
Looks like you're gonna have a nice and steady source of bread to document as this trend starts breaking the surface more in the coming week or two. The ABDLs are pretty emboldened into revealing their power levels... and I'm all for it if it means the normies get to raise the crosses and holy water in response.

I guess we have Elon to thank for this trend becoming more organically energized since he took hold of Twitter, eh?
 
Did you mean to ask, "How are you feeling about being right about the next wave of coomersoomers being diaper niggers?"
Because I absolutely knew it was going to happen - it's just as fad-y as trooning.

Know how I knew?
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600 followers in one day and never coomed the way his audience wants - is all that newfound hug boxing worth your self respect? Going from 18k on main to a coomer Twitter will be a short serotonin hit, and not worth associating with pedos ofc. But as always, the coom is strong with furfags.

>if everyone else is doing it
Poor reason to join the ranks of a group that's as bad as if not worse than furries keeping pedos out.

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>edgy
>babyish
:geek:

A bunch of other accounts have come out, varying in follower size, but we will see a new wave of drama and degeneracy hit like Hurricane Ian Brandon Anderson.

God help us.

Additional Reading:
The Cost of The Coom
Babyfurs & Minors - Tragic Results

Not that I’m surprised, but, I didn’t think it would get to the point where “I shit myself and I’m proud” was something that would be said without a hint of irony.
 
I can see why the ABDL group would be so attractive to the people rushing to join - their hugboxing and lefty political gatekeeping are on par with that of troons and terminally online furries.

The writing is of course, is on the wall and cracks will begin to show:
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But that's just on the surface. Much deeper there are ruptures in the foundation in which degeneracy and unacceptable behavior seep up through, that which is carpeted over by the self appointed popular users in the ABDL community and everyone is told that there is nothing to see - move along.

What do I mean by this?
The babyfur group is insanely good at suppressing anyone who brings up problematic behavior and then turning around to make it seem like it's acceptable.

My case?
A small user kicked up the carpet hiding the cracks of pedophilic depiction and the popular members ate them alive:
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TLDR: "Did you really need to do this? We already knew."

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This post is especially rich since Jimmy here has a past of defending a cub consoomer who got their art from Balt - in fact, he has direct contact with him.
Also, you look at the thumbs in the archive and tell me any of them are appropriate - you'll be lying through your teeth.

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TLDR:
"You made this callout for your own ego"
"You're getting off to these callouts"
"I don't need people who jump to these conclusions in my life"
"I don't believe you actually care"
>muh ebil Christans
"You're bulling these people in your callout :((((("
"You are just as bad as the evil American police"
"blocked :)))))"

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"Everything I don't like is a psyop."

This isn't the only responses we see of babyfurs defending bad behavior, let's see how the react to an adult in diapers and fetish gear at a playground amongst kids:
Necro time!

Found something truly :deviant: AND :horrifying: to bump this thread with, and it's really bringing the freaks out of the woodworks.

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That's right, a grown (possibly retarded, but what ABDLs aren't) man in a playground among children, explaining to parents what ABDL (Adult Baby Diaper Lover) and DDLG (Daddy Dom Little Girl) is in fetish gear.

With 800k and 2.2mil views respectively.

And that's only half the story, this surfacing has caused some lovely infighting inside the mentioned groups. The issue they have?
"muh societal acceptance"

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:story: Absolutely delusional thinking society will ever accept this absolutely degenerate and predatory behavior :story:
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"He didnu nuffin wrong"
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"I would do the same thing if it didn't make us look bad"
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Muh Opreshun
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Someone knows a little too much about how far you're allowed to go with minors
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This one strikes me the most - he's known for going into SFW con spaces in pedo kink gear.
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This is absolutely reprehensible behavior and the fact ABDL niggers are tip toeing around saying this dude needs to be on a chomo registry is proof that this entire group is beyond saving - not that it ever had the chance of salvation or normalcy in the first place.

The internet was a mistake because it enables and emboldens these "people".

EDIT: Indirect comments are being made by an individual in the diaper fur group:
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"If they're not hurting anyone, let it be" - strong words coming from someone who came to the defence of a cub porn commissioner.

For those unaware, cub porn is the furry version of loli, which is of course drawn child pornography.

First it was men in skirts pushing their way into women's restrooms, next it'll be adults dressed as babies mingling with children on playgrounds if something isn't done soon to outlaw this disgusting loophole.

Remember, A BUNCH OF FURRIES ARE FLOCKING TO THIS GROUP IN DROVES, a group that openly allows podophilic activities.

Furnal Equinox capitulated and has dropped Wolfbird as Guest of Honour due to her sensible position on babyfurs. Note how the announcement tiptoes around what specifically happened.




Wolfbird is correct in that ABDLs and babyfurs are all paedophiles.

What happened to Wolfbird was awful and this is only proving she was right to feel the way she did.
 
Did you mean to ask, "How are you feeling about being right about the next wave of coomersoomers being diaper niggers?"
Because I absolutely knew it was going to happen - it's just as fad-y as trooning.

Know how I knew?
Examples:
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Twitter
Archive
Main Twitter
600 followers in one day and never coomed the way his audience wants - is all that newfound hug boxing worth your self respect? Going from 18k on main to a coomer Twitter will be a short serotonin hit, and not worth associating with pedos ofc. But as always, the coom is strong with furfags.

>if everyone else is doing it
Poor reason to join the ranks of a group that's as bad as if not worse than furries keeping pedos out.

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Twitter
Archive
>edgy
>babyish
:geek:

A bunch of other accounts have come out, varying in follower size, but we will see a new wave of drama and degeneracy hit like Hurricane Ian Brandon Anderson.

God help us.

Additional Reading:
The Cost of The Coom
Babyfurs & Minors - Tragic Results
These fucking people cause problems literally everywhere they go. Adding to your reading list, Metokur's Deviants video is mandatory viewing if you want to see how they operate and try to cover and run damage control for each other:


TLDW: lawsuit threats, false flagging and lots and lots of gay ops.

Personal schizo theory: given this community's past behavior, how close-knit they are and how they collectively react to being ridiculed, I think this whole thing was probably coordinated by some popufurs who were into it as a kind of fake campaign to normalize and spread their dumb fetish, "everyone else is doing it" after all. The love bombing and nauseating overly positive personal stories about how great they all are seem so inauthentic to me.

>Wolfbird

Thanks for reminding me of this incident, now I get to be MATI about it all over again.
 
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These fucking people cause problems literally everywhere they go. Adding to your reading list, Metokur's Deviants video is mandatory viewing if you want to see how they operate and try to cover and run damage control for each other:


TLDW: lawsuit threats, false flagging and lots and lots of gay ops.

Personal schizo theory: given this community's past behavior, how close-knit they are and how they collectively react to being ridiculed, I think this whole thing was probably coordinated by some popufurs who were into it as a kind of fake campaign to normalize and spread their dumb fetish, "everyone else is doing it" after all. The lovebombing and nauseating overly positive personal stories about how great they all are seem so inauthentic to me.

>Wolfbird

Thanks for reminding me of this incident, now I get to be MATI about it all over again.
And just in case you weren't MATI enough, let me show you a taste of what is to come:

Everyone remembers the plushophile & exhibitionist deviant CyanWolf, yes?

With this whole mass "coming out", he posed the question, how does everyone feel about NSFW Cub art?
The results - exactly what you'd expect, but still absolutely fucking awful:
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The only saving grace about this poll is that there is high possibility of sampling bias - normie furs I'm sure didn't get the opportunity to see this and vote - but out of nearly 900 people, ~67% are okay or don't care about minors being depicted in sexual situations.

Mark my words, there will come a time when there's a thread for tracking cub fags and it'll be bursting at the seams as this new wave of "acceptance" washes in degeneracy the likes of which we have not yet seen en mass.

Feel free to take a look at the replies, but one in particular stuck out to me:
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TLDR: Adult dogs can consent to sex as much as 12 year old boys in the opinions of a self confirmed zoophile and a closet pedophile.
This is who all these fursuiters are getting in bed with, and they need to be held accountable to lie in it.

This is the taste of what is to come, soon this whole ABDL thing will reach critical mass and there will be a schism in which normie furries cut off these reprehensible, dangerous people like a parasitic tumor.
 
Also, sorry for the double post, but man:
It's been pretty quiet after the initial freakout
Turns out DeviantArt has been working on its own "ethical" AI image generator as well as selling their own user's artwork as the training dataset to third parties (something you have to opt out of), they announced it publicly today and the reaction is nothing but unmitigated seething:

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Keffals eat your heart out:
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There's thousands of posts like this and we're only seven hours in.
 
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Also, sorry for the double post, but man:

Turns out DeviantArt has been working on its own "ethical" AI image generator as well as selling their own user's artwork as the training dataset to third parties (something you have to opt out of), they announced it publicly today and the reaction is nothing but unmitigated seething:

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Why are they complaining, at least they get to opt out this time; when stuff like dall-e was being worked on, DeviantArt and other 'art' sharing sites were up for grabs by the creators of the dataset(s) (at least I'm sure they were by the results you get when you type in something like DeviantArt adoptables) either by scraping the site directly or indirectly through something like Google images.
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Also, sorry for the double post, but man:

Turns out DeviantArt has been working on its own "ethical" AI image generator as well as selling their own user's artwork as the training dataset to third parties (something you have to opt out of), they announced it publicly today and the reaction is nothing but unmitigated seething:

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And then they repealed that decision so that all art on DA has been opted out by default, so basically everyone’s art will be fine. It was dumb what DA did, but what was even dumber was seeing users leaving the site in droves while proclaiming that “ThEY’Re LEaViNG” and done with DA forever. I’ve been on the internet long enough to know that stupid shit like this doesn’t last long.

At best they’re nothing more than fads that last no longer than a couple months, and at worst it’s just a thorn in their side that you just have to suck up and deal with. Either way, it usually peaks and dies because people stop caring.

It happened with crypto, NFTs, and a whole bunch of other shit - and now it’s AI art.
 
These fucking people cause problems literally everywhere they go. Adding to your reading list, Metokur's Deviants video is mandatory viewing if you want to see how they operate and try to cover and run damage control for each other:


TLDW: lawsuit threats, false flagging and lots and lots of gay ops.

Personal schizo theory: given this community's past behavior, how close-knit they are and how they collectively react to being ridiculed, I think this whole thing was probably coordinated by some popufurs who were into it as a kind of fake campaign to normalize and spread their dumb fetish, "everyone else is doing it" after all. The love bombing and nauseating overly positive personal stories about how great they all are seem so inauthentic to me.

>Wolfbird

Thanks for reminding me of this incident, now I get to be MATI about it all over again.
Back then in 2014, you could laugh at this because it was this fringe of weirdos considered weird within their own fandom trying to be Internet tough guys. Nowadays ABDL stuff seems more common in the fandom, its members have a larger presence at cons and on Twitter (and come equipped with cancel mobs), and it’s just kinda taken as a fact of life even if most furries from what I can tell find it creepy.

All these image sites really need a blacklist tag feature, particularly FA. I’m tired of turning on the content filter for single word SFW searches and finding unsolicited babyfur art.
 
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