Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Involuntary Celebrity]

Also, it was a rather generous offer. I mean, all the guy asked for was that their kids meet. He openly said that he didn't want them betrothed-yet. He just wanted their kids to meet and get to know each other. What's so wrong with that? The kids of rich people hobnobbing and getting to know each other is rather common in the real world. If they like each other, they'll get together, if they don't, they won't. And hey, they're both Chandrilans, so there's nothing wrong with it on the surface. Maybe the banker guy's son is a scumbag, and that's what gave Mon Mothma cold feet about the offer. But we don't know that for sure, at this point.

C'mon dude, I've seen your posts. You must you you have a touch of the tism.
She's an expert politician, that's how she knew instantly when he said "I want to bring my son along when I visit" after just discussing Chandrilan arranged marriage custom exactly what he meant. Then his manoeuvre was to softball it, but remember it was his sole condition, in lieu of refusing payment, of accepting her proposal. At that point he would have massive leverage over her (him saying she's entitled to her family money etc is politics too; he knows it's for something shady, he'd have insight into what she's doing if he's moving it--she already knows he's a scumbag and practically a gangster; that's why they need him--as well as active control over funds the rebellion needs, so that's her balls in a vice). It comes down to selling her daughter now or being put in a position where he can force her to accept later. You can narratively infer that she's right just from how savvy her reaction was, but I think he hinted at the part of the specific motivation for using her daughter to get a foot in the door too.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

C'mon dude, I've seen your posts. You must you you have a touch of the tism.
She's an expert politician, that's how she knew instantly when he said "I want to bring my son along when I visit" after just discussing Chandrilan arranged marriage custom exactly what he meant. Then his manoeuvre was to softball it, but remember it was his sole condition, in lieu of refusing payment, of accepting her proposal. At that point he would have massive leverage over her (him saying she's entitled to her family money etc is politics too; he knows it's for something shady, he'd have insight into what she's doing if he's moving it--she already knows he's a scumbag and practically a gangster; that's why they need him--as well as active control over funds the rebellion needs, so that's her balls in a vice). It comes down to selling her daughter now or being put in a position where he can force her to accept later. You can narratively infer that she's right just from how savvy her reaction was, but I think he hinted at the part of the specific motivation for using her daughter to get a foot in the door too.

The thing is, this particular deal did not include marriage. The guy even said he's not aiming for a betrothal, just for them to meet and greet. Of course the bastard wants to use it as a stepping stone for marriage, but that's strictly not part of the deal. If Mon Mothma's daughter likes the banker guy's brat, then they'll get betrothed. If not, then no. That, and marriage alliances have been done for less. Also, the man has more money than the Olympian gods, so why the hell would he accept money from Mon Mothma in exchange? That's like trying to buy something with dried leaves.

Mon Mothma is asking this guy to help her commit treason and launder money to keep it from the eyes of the Galactic Empire and its ruthless emperor, Palpatine-an emperor who rules millions of worlds, who has a massive military, and whose supporters dominate the Senate. An emperor who has shown no mercy to his enemies, an emperor who, if he found out what they were doing, would have Darth Vader decapitate them without a second thought. If they get found out, they're all going to lose their heads. So even if it was betrothal, would it not be a good exchange for the risk? A good-enough sacrifice for the greater good? The journey requires sacrifice. If Mon Mothma can't pay that price, let alone just allow her daughter to meet this idiot's son, then she might as well just keep her head down and bow before the Empire.

 

[Involuntary Celebrity]

I mean you can try and talk her into it but I don't think she'll read your posts since it's a long galaxy away. She's already said she doesn't like the custom so she just ain't into that.
She don't trust a banker saying he doesn't care about money. It's not going to be optional if she's not in a position to refuse, that was a tactic. And the difference between moon man willing to sacrifice other people for his goals and her is a central theme they've been setting up for a few eps.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

She don't trust a banker saying he doesn't care about money.

At that point, financial gain was something he no longer cared about, since he had all the wealth he needed. He obviously wanted political power by marrying Mon Mothma's daughter to his son.

It's not going to be optional if she's not in a position to refuse, that was a tactic. And the difference between moon man willing to sacrifice other people for his goals and her is a central theme they've been setting up for a few eps.

Again, the only thing on the table as payment was a meet-and-greet for their kids. Rather soft compared to moon man sacrificing people to keep his spy in the ISB and to get the Empire to act tyrannical.

 

[Involuntary Celebrity]

Sometimes when a character says something, they aren't telling the truth.
This is especially true of characters who other characters say are dishonest.

This can also be useful to remember in the real world too. Watch out for people with vans okay buddy

 

[Cubanodun]

Wow, a Star Wars anime made by japanese Disney

If you want to get historical Japanese Disney is not them but Tezuka production

And the mystery did not last long, is a short about Grogu that is being released tomorrow on Bittorrent Disney Plus

 

[Sneed F91]

For a guy that's favored enough by Hollywood to make his own IP films, he sure does love to whine about Star Wars.

It feels like he only did Star Wars just to shit on it like a good little postmodernist, play with a huge budget, and get paid. He doesn't care about it otherwise.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

It feels like he only did Star Wars just to shit on it like a good little postmodernist, play with a huge budget, and get paid. He doesn't care about it otherwise.

Sure, but he's still talking about it years later after getting demoted to TV Director.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

If you want to get historical Japanese Disney is not them but Tezuka production

And the mystery did not last long, is a short about Grogu that is being released tomorrow on Bittorrent Disney Plus

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holy fuck yeed is doing a team up with totoro what in the actual fuck

 

[Miller]

And the mystery did not last long, is a short about Grogu that is being released tomorrow on Bittorrent Disney Plus

I like The Mandalorian but I wish Disney would let that character remain in the Mando-verse instead of abusing using it like a random Disney character.

 

[Erasmus of Rotterdam]

I like The Mandalorian but I wish Disney would let that character remain in the Mando-verse instead of abusing using it like a random Disney character.

I thought the tie in with the Bobba Fett series was done fairly well.
Just wish the Rancor would have eaten more fish dudes.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

You could probably dump Porco Rosso as-is, plane and all straight into Star Wars and he'd barely stand out

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Sure, but he's still talking about it years later after getting demoted to TV Director.

Who is this guy? What's his story anyway? Listening him talking and listening to journos talking about him one would think he's Stanley Kubrick reborn.

He had only 3 films under his belt before Star Wars: The Last Jedi out of which I have only seen or ever heard of the last one who happened to be utter shit. The other 3 all sounds pretentious as fuck with Brick being a film listed amongst the 500 best films of all time despite absolutely no one having watching it because it was distributed in a limited capacity.

I suppose his bid to Star Wars came through Breaking Bad, also a rather pretentious show he was a hired director for but I would question his creative input in.

Ever since Star Wars he's been squeezing this campy whodunnit to death. I remember Knives Out been heavily promoted for absolutely no reason whatsoever than it being a Rian Johnson film?

Overall, he's of a rather mediocre, maybe slightly above average talent and a gay-ass Christopher Nolan clone.

Why is he promoted so heavily despite an obnoxious personality, a rather unfulfilling body of work and questionable reception outside of the movie journo circuit is a mystery. Is he a regular on Liz Fong-Jones BDSM parties or what?

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Here's a daily dose of vintage Star Wars. For those tired of the Disney stuff.

And for some fanservice, here's the same story's ending, with a hot Sith chick:

 

[namelesstacotruck]

For a guy that's favored enough by Hollywood to make his own IP films, he sure does love to whine about Star Wars.

The fallout from his star wars movie is a big black stain for him. Yes certain circles love him, but its undeniable he made a mass appeal brand less mass appeal and greatly damaged disney star wars acquisition.

Yes hollywood loves postmodern ruining of shit, they also like money. And a pretty convincing argument can be made that he cost disney a billion dollars in the long run.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Sometimes when a character says something, they aren't telling the truth.
This is especially true of characters who other characters say are dishonest.

Then maybe Mon Mothma should've asked someone else to get in on her super-secret charity fund instead. I mean, if the guy's a slime ball who can't be trusted, he can easily turn around and tell the Emperor about her little secret for a reward. She gets thrown into an agony booth, and he gets a high-class bride for his son from the Empire, maybe the daughter of some Grand Moff.

 

[King Dead]

The fallout from his star wars movie is a big black stain for him. Yes certain circles love him, but its undeniable he made a mass appeal brand less mass appeal and greatly damaged disney star wars acquisition.

Yes hollywood loves postmodern ruining of shit, they also like money. And a pretty convincing argument can be made that he cost disney a billion dollars in the long run.

Probably more than that if you consider how much Star Wars as a brand has been tarnished. When only OT-era stuff sells, and even that is doing poorly compared to how it used to, you know there's a major problem, and the start of that problem can pretty much be traced to TLJ. While more people are looking back at TFA and realizing just how hollow a movie it was, at the time the hype train was off the rails and merch was still selling, albeit probably still with a bias towards the OT. But after Roundhead came along and decided to take a massive shit all over Star Wars and its fans? Turns out that leaves a pretty bad taste in people's mouths. On top of merch, you also have to consider how much of a drop in the box office it was from TFA, from $2.5 billion down to $1.3 billion, barely half as much, with Plan IX doing even worse than that and barely limping over the $1 billion mark.

And of course it's more than that, as the failures of Galaxy's Edge and the Galactic Starcruiser have shown. Billions of dollars sunk into those "experiences," and what does Disney have to show for it? Two rides that break all the time, a glorified shopping mall, and probably the shittiest LARP ever, at least for the money they're charging for you to experience it.

And let's not forget the status of various Star Wars productions, what little there is. Movie projects keep getting delayed if not outright canceled, and the only thing that's actually being produced is some cheap TV shows that get dropped onto Disney+. And those are probably going to get even cheaper now that Chapek holds the purse strings, so what little quality those have will likely evaporate. One of the biggest blockbuster movie franchises of all time, reduced to the equivalent of a Syfy original series. If I still cared about Star Wars, that'd depress me. As it stands, I just laugh.

Disney Wars never had a good foundation from the start, but it's possible that they could have course-corrected early on and done something at least halfway decent. TLJ proved that wasn't going to happen, and it's been all downhill from there.

 

[Sneed F91]

Disney Wars never had a good foundation from the start, but it's possible that they could have course-corrected early on and done something at least halfway decent. TLJ proved that wasn't going to happen, and it's been all downhill from there.

This isn't as easy as it sounds. You can't make a good story with a bad foundation. AOTC had the problems it did because of what was/wasn't set up in TPM. ESB worked because ANH put in the work to be a great film that actually set up things for a sequel while also being good on its own. I hate TLJ but Rian had the task of explaining what the actual fuck happened in TFA because that movie refused to, while also pushing the story of the sequels forward in a logical way that satisfied fans. That would be difficult for anybody. Johnson realized this early on and decided not to try at all.

The fallout from his star wars movie is a big black stain for him.

Roundhead wanted to start shit for attention and he did. Now he has an army of wannabe-cinephile dicksuckers and a bunch of Cuckflix money to make shitty Knives Out sequels. The media has been flipping TLJ as a controversial yet necessary push forward for Disney Wars for the past 5 years and that the audience was the problem. He doesn't give a shit about Star Wars, he wanted to move up in Hollywood so he could do whatever he wants, and now he is.

 

[Involuntary Celebrity]

Then maybe Mon Mothma should've asked someone else to get in on her super-secret charity fund instead. I mean, if the guy's a slime ball who can't be trusted, he can easily turn around and tell the Emperor about her little secret for a reward. She gets thrown into an agony booth, and he gets a high-class bride for his son from the Empire, maybe the daughter of some Grand Moff.

Yes that's partly why she didn't ask him, and got annoyed about her friend asking him without running it past her.

Theoretically his operation of running money under the Empire's nose is why he can't blow her cover without exposing himself (the rebellion isn't The Rebellion yet so presumably he has fingers in currently equally-criminal pies), but the question of whether her friend blindsided her because there's literally no other options or because he has his own shady angle is up in the air.

 

[Adamska]

Who is this guy? What's his story anyway? Listening him talking and listening to journos talking about him one would think he's Stanley Kubrick reborn.

He had only 3 films under his belt before Star Wars: The Last Jedi out of which I have only seen or ever heard of the last one who happened to be utter shit. The other 3 all sounds pretentious as fuck with Brick being a film listed amongst the 500 best films of all time despite absolutely no one having watching it because it was distributed in a limited capacity.

I suppose his bid to Star Wars came through Breaking Bad, also a rather pretentious show he was a hired director for but I would question his creative input in.

Ever since Star Wars he's been squeezing this campy whodunnit to death. I remember Knives Out been heavily promoted for absolutely no reason whatsoever than it being a Rian Johnson film?

Overall, he's of a rather mediocre, maybe slightly above average talent and a gay-ass Christopher Nolan clone.

Why is he promoted so heavily despite an obnoxious personality, a rather unfulfilling body of work and questionable reception outside of the movie journo circuit is a mystery. Is he a regular on Liz Fong-Jones BDSM parties or what?

His wife is a journo and she knows people. That's why he's so astroturfed as a director.